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Coronavirus? What's the big deal?
- Thread starter Rottedroots
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Cillit_Bang
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The government have almost definitely designed this super virus. Why wouldn’t they. Earth is massively over populated. It causes mass strains on natural resources. Higher demand for live stock. Global warming speeds up. More people are born than die.
... Maybe this is their way of controlling the earths population. Kill off a mass percentage of the population - blame it on a disease.
... Maybe this is their way of controlling the earths population. Kill off a mass percentage of the population - blame it on a disease.
hanimmal
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AKA I hit my quota of trolling for the day.
Fogdog
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Trump has been treating this epidemic as if it were a political problem and downplaying it. His minions show up in places like here spouting his ignorance. The recent theme is, "only affects old people", and sure enough, two of them showed up almost at once to say the same thing.
Other than what was learned in the information constrained environment in China, we really won't know much until summer. That's probably the only fact one can say for certain.
Trump's instinctive response to clamp down on information exchanges between official agencies and the press is maddening and sows more distortion of the facts. Next will be the firings in CDC or other health organization when an official refuses an order from him or reports news he doesn't like.
dandyrandy
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CPAC attendee tested positive for coronavirus
The American Conservative Union announced on Saturday that one of the attendees at last week's Conservative Political Action Conference in National Harbor, Maryland, has tested positive for coronavirus.
www.cnn.com
hanimmal
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Brad Parscales/Putin's flying monkeys doing Dear Leader's messaging.
DIY-HP-LED
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Unfortunately it is a political problem in America, Trump is the problem, the virus was inevitable, this could have been handled a whole lot better and they had plenty of warning. Answers aren't forth coming so they don't want to throw somebody under the bus, it can't be a regular scientist or responsible civil servant or they would have been Judas goated immediately. Maybe trump was holding up things so his friends could get the contract or something, perhaps simple greed and corruption, who knows. Congress wants answers though and so does the public, the senate has many ancient GOP members who are at high risk with a large public exposure. Are they still doing capitol hill tours, WH tours? The senate is fucking near an assisted care facility for Christ sake.
Fogdog
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The Baloney Detection Kit, tools number 1 and 2: Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”; Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
"almost definitely designed this super virus"???
This sweeping statement should be said in conjunction with evidence from a reliable source, don't you think? Evidence would be fairly easy to produce if it is "almost definitely" something man-made.
Then the kicker is open ended question: Why wouldn't they?
What you've made there is a fallacy of logic, number 13 in the Baloney Detection tool kit; meaningless question (e.g., What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object?)
Based on the evidence, your post was Baloney.
Fogdog
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I'm concerned that our government's fumble might make the whole thing worse for the rest of the world.
DIY-HP-LED
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Ya think they talked it over with all the other governments? Ya think they have a secret vaccine for Trump and Putin and such people, Putin would be in on it too!
DIY-HP-LED
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i'm concerned trump is still in charge!
DIY-HP-LED
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At 78 what do ya figure Mitch McConnell's odds of death are from this, how about his chances of hospitalisation? He has a very public job with lot's of human contact and is running for reelection with public events against a tough opponent and has a favorability in the 30's. Politicians are gonna be in a high risk group, especially during election season, it must have'm thinking.
Cillit_Bang
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It’s the whole plot of resident evil... why wouldn’t it be believable lol
captainmorgan
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They always come back. Always.Wattzzup Wordz.
Now what is it that I don't I know?
yes, the fold is 3.4%
Budley Doright
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Not to mention he gets to write off the fuel purchase or the company pays (me) and he still gets the points (me lol), it’s just another 1%er cheating the system
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greg nr
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Note the part where younger people are being admitted with serious complications ...
“The last days are showing a younger population involved as if the elderly and weaker part of the population crashed early and now younger patients, having exhausted their physiological reserves, come to overcrowded, overwhelmed hospitals with little resources left.” ...
It won't be just the old.
'Get ready': Italian doctors warn Europe
... In the note, sent to the European Society of Intensive Care Medicine, critical care experts Professor Maurizio Cecconi, Professor Antonio Pesenti and Professor Giacomo Grasselli, from the University of Milan, revealed how difficult it had been to treat coronavirus patients. They said: “We are seeing a high percentage of positive cases being admitted to our intensive care units (ICUs), in the range of 10 per cent of all positive patients... We wish to convey a strong message: Get ready!”
They said Italian hospitals had seen “a very high” number of intensive care patients who were admitted “almost entirely” for severe lung failure caused by the virus and needing ventilators to help them breathe. They said hospitals across the UK and Europe needed to prepare for a surge in admissions and cautioned against working “in silos”. They said it was vital hospitals had equipment to protect staff and that staff were trained in wearing the kit. They added: “Increase your total ICU capacity. Identify early hospitals that can manage the initial surge in a safe way. Get ready to prepare ICU areas where to cohort Covid-19 patients – in every hospital if necessary.”...
... In a separate note, Italian intensive care doctor Giuseppe Nattino, from the Lecco province in northern Italy, has shared a clinical summary of the patients his unit has been treating, which doctors described as “frightening” in terms of what it could mean for the UK. The technical note spells out how patients with coronavirus experience a severe infection in all of their lungs, requiring major ventilation support. It also reveals the effect of the virus, which affects blood pressure, the heart, kidneys and liver with patients needing sustained treatment...
... In an alarming development, Dr Nattino said younger patients were being affected, saying the ages of patients ranged from 46 to 83 with only a small number having important underlying conditions. He added: “The last days are showing a younger population involved as if the elderly and weaker part of the population crashed early and now younger patients, having exhausted their physiological reserves, come to overcrowded, overwhelmed hospitals with little resources left.” ...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-italy-doctors-intensive-care-deaths-a9384356.html
“The last days are showing a younger population involved as if the elderly and weaker part of the population crashed early and now younger patients, having exhausted their physiological reserves, come to overcrowded, overwhelmed hospitals with little resources left.” ...
It won't be just the old.
'Get ready': Italian doctors warn Europe
... In the note, sent to the European Society of Intensive Care Medicine, critical care experts Professor Maurizio Cecconi, Professor Antonio Pesenti and Professor Giacomo Grasselli, from the University of Milan, revealed how difficult it had been to treat coronavirus patients. They said: “We are seeing a high percentage of positive cases being admitted to our intensive care units (ICUs), in the range of 10 per cent of all positive patients... We wish to convey a strong message: Get ready!”
They said Italian hospitals had seen “a very high” number of intensive care patients who were admitted “almost entirely” for severe lung failure caused by the virus and needing ventilators to help them breathe. They said hospitals across the UK and Europe needed to prepare for a surge in admissions and cautioned against working “in silos”. They said it was vital hospitals had equipment to protect staff and that staff were trained in wearing the kit. They added: “Increase your total ICU capacity. Identify early hospitals that can manage the initial surge in a safe way. Get ready to prepare ICU areas where to cohort Covid-19 patients – in every hospital if necessary.”...
... In a separate note, Italian intensive care doctor Giuseppe Nattino, from the Lecco province in northern Italy, has shared a clinical summary of the patients his unit has been treating, which doctors described as “frightening” in terms of what it could mean for the UK. The technical note spells out how patients with coronavirus experience a severe infection in all of their lungs, requiring major ventilation support. It also reveals the effect of the virus, which affects blood pressure, the heart, kidneys and liver with patients needing sustained treatment...
... In an alarming development, Dr Nattino said younger patients were being affected, saying the ages of patients ranged from 46 to 83 with only a small number having important underlying conditions. He added: “The last days are showing a younger population involved as if the elderly and weaker part of the population crashed early and now younger patients, having exhausted their physiological reserves, come to overcrowded, overwhelmed hospitals with little resources left.” ...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-italy-doctors-intensive-care-deaths-a9384356.html
captainmorgan
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I've read that some researchers think how your immune system reacts to the virus is very important. Weak immune system people die and some healthy adults immune systems over react to the virus and that can kill you too. It's basically the lottery, do you feel lucky?