Congress [America] Run by a bunch of Christians?

ginwilly said:

I really think you are incapable of honest debate.

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how so?

you frequently ask rhetorically if you think any business would do the kinds of things that civil rights laws protect against.

well, clearly they still do! your buddy murdoch just cited a case (by complete accident).

what recourse do you think those blacks would have had if there was no law making the actions of the piggly wiggly racists illegal?

ginwilly said:

Where's pinworm when we need him? You need a new word or phrase obsession.

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you need to stop having a meltdown over the word meltdown and just answer the simple questions.

or, have a meltdown. either way it's funny and amusing to me.

UncleBuck said:

how so?

you frequently ask rhetorically if you think any business would do the kinds of things that civil rights laws protect against.

well, clearly they still do! your buddy murdoch just cited a case (by complete accident).

what recourse do you think those blacks would have had if there was no law making the actions of the piggly wiggly racists illegal?

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I'm for uniform laws that are the same for everyone. I don't support any form of discrimination but I realize it's part of life. You support discrimination based on X but not based on Y. This doesn't make sense to me.

But then, you've admitted London should do more time for kicking your ass then I should, so we know you support racist laws.

ginwilly said:

I'm for uniform laws that are the same for everyone.

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then why do you oppose civil rights laws?

they protect everyone that has a skin color, which is everyone.

ginwilly said:

I don't support any form of discrimination

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but why do you oppose title II then, which makes discrimination on the basis of skin color illegal?

if you don't support discrimination, especially by skin color, then why do you want to re-legalize discrimination on the basis of skin color?

ginwilly said:

You support discrimination based on X but not based on Y.

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tell me what "Y" is. what type of discrimination do i actually support?

remember, this is not hypothetical, so support your answer with citations, quote posts, etcetera.

ginwilly said:

you've admitted London should do more time for kicking your ass then I should, so we know you support racist laws.

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first of all, an old, fat, out of shape loser like yourself would be utterly unable of kicking my ass.

but suppose you did. i would support the exact same punishment for you as i would for london.

now, if london is screaming racial epithets during the beating, and his intent and motive was racially motivated, i would be all for punishing his racist hostility more harshly, just the same way i would be for punishing premeditated murder more harshly than non-premeditated murder.

that's just a matter of intent and motive.

for some reason, you think it is "racist" to punish racially motivated crimes more harshly.

i am interested in how you strain logic to come to that conclusion.

can you walk us through that thought process without having a meltdown?

UncleBuck said:

not the case i was referring to, actually.

but kinda interesting to see that businesses in this day and age are still refusing to hire blacks in such a callous fashion. kinda works against what ginwilly is saying about how all of that is behind us so we can get rid of these darn civil rights laws.

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Yeah, kinda alarming that large stores could, for any length of time, get away with a blanket practice of not hiring blacks.

TBoneJack said:

Yeah, kinda alarming that large stores could, for any length of time, get away with a blanket practice of not hiring blacks.

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tell me, murdoch, would you say then that civil rights laws are necessary to prevent this abuse, so that the parties who are discriminated against actually have legal recourse?

i asked ginwilly but he had a meltdown instead of answering. he must be hitting the bottle hard tonight.

UncleBuck said:

woooops, it was piggie park. i got it wrong.

The defendant Bessinger...argued that the Civil Rights Act violated his freedom of religion as "his religious beliefs compel him to oppose any integration of the races whatever."[7]

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OK, here's the story. Seems like it was only one restaurant though. That's one too many, I know.

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/sc-restaurant-owner-refuses-serve-blacks-cites-religious-beliefs/

UncleBuck said:

meltdown

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Oh man. I've seen your scrawny arms, you would have trouble fighting 5th graders. I'm not a violent man but you wouldn't worry me in the least. You are a bit of a wuss.

Forgive me if don't think London beating you while calling you cracker should elicit more time than me beating you calling you banana pants. I'll never understand your logic and you've never tried to explain it. All you've said is a black man should do longer time than a white man for the same crimes if the victim is white. Doesn't make sense to me.

MELTDOWN!!

UncleBuck said:

tell me, murdoch, would you say then that civil rights laws are necessary to prevent this abuse, so that the parties who are discriminated against actually have legal recourse?

i asked ginwilly but he had a meltdown instead of answering. he must be hitting the bottle hard tonight.

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Yes. Laws are necessary.

I would think it would be extremely difficult for someone to excel in politics and uphold true Christian values.

ginwilly said:

I don't think London beating you while calling you cracker should elicit more time than me beating you calling you banana pants. I'll never understand your logic and you've never tried to explain it.

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i actually just did explain it. it's intent and motive. the same reason why premeditated murder is worse than accidentally hitting someone with your car.

i happen to think it is right to punish racially motivated crime more harshly. you think that is racist for some reason.

ginwilly said:

All you've said is a black man should do longer time than a white man for the same crimes if the victim is white.

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if you can quote me saying that, i will leave the site forever and send you $1000, all $20 bills with "meltdown" written on them.

i just offed a harvest yesterday, so here is your chance to collect!

or just make a liar out of yourself, like usual.

UncleBuck said:

i actually just did explain it. it's intent and motive. the same reason why premeditated murder is worse than accidentally hitting someone with your car.

i happen to think it is right to punish racially motivated crime more harshly. you think that is racist for some reason.



if you can quote me saying that, i will leave the site forever and send you $1000, all $20 bills with "meltdown" written on them.

i just offed a harvest yesterday, so here is your chance to collect!

or just make a liar out of yourself, like usual.

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You've said it many times. You support laws that would make London do more time than me for the same crime based on his skin color. You can't run from this.

MELTDOWN!!

Yes UncleBuck, unfortunately, laws are necessary to ensure equal treatment. But I'll also tell you this, honestly, and I'd like your take.

A few months ago, we had a round of layoffs at work. The decisions were made, and submitted to Corporate for approval. Corporate replied back "No - the racial numbers aren't right". So a new list was submitted and, eventually, approved. I have no idea who was on which list. But I had a lot of mixed emotions about the whole process.

TBoneJack said:

Yes UncleBuck, unfortunately, laws are necessary to ensure equal treatment. But I'll also tell you this, honestly, and I'd like your take.

A few months ago, we had a round of layoffs at work. The decisions were made, and submitted to Corporate for approval. Corporate replied back "No - the racial numbers aren't right". So a new list was submitted and, eventually, approved. I have no idea who was on which list. But I had a lot of mixed emotions about the whole process.

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Stuff like that needs to be done based upon job performance in my opinion.

ginwilly said:

You've said it many times. You support laws that would make London do more time than me for the same crime based on his skin color. You can't run from this.

MELTDOWN!!

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well, if i've said it many times, it should be completely easy for you to quote the post, collect $1000, and run me off this site forever.

TBoneJack said:

Yes UncleBuck, unfortunately, laws are necessary to ensure equal treatment. But I'll also tell you this, honestly, and I'd like your take.

A few months ago, we had a round of layoffs at work. The decisions were made, and submitted to Corporate for approval. Corporate replied back "No - the racial numbers aren't right". So a new list was submitted and, eventually, approved. I have no idea who was on which list. But I had a lot of mixed emotions about the whole process.

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were they disproportionately favoring or firing one race or the other?

UncleBuck said:

were they disproportionately favoring or firing one race or the other?

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It didn't seem like it to me. We have a lot of races represented at work. From all over the world. But I have no idea the desired percentages or how companies measure diversity.

UncleBuck said:

well, if i've said it many times, it should be completely easy for you to quote the post, collect $1000, and run me off this site forever.

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You said it in this thread. If London and I both kicked your teeth in, you think London should do more time even if we were both yelling die cracker die based on him being black and me and you being white. Sorry dude, you can't run from it.

UncleBuck said:

were they disproportionately favoring or firing one race or the other?

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So in other words, first we must take skin color into account when making business decisions. Can we please move past this? Damn you are racist. Wouldn't the world be better off if we didn't care what color skin somebody has? Do you have criteria based on shade too? I'm darker than a lot of blacks, what happens with situations like that? Do you feel differently about dark skin blacks compared to light skin blacks? How much weight should be allowed based on melanin levels?

ginwilly said:

You said it in this thread.

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then it should be super easy for you to quote the post, run me off this site, and collect $1000.

i'll send it to any anonymous PO box address of your choosing.