Colorado wants to crackdown on home growers

ANC

ANC

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ttystikk said:
View attachment 3984222 that's measured CO2 vs time.

Ideal Earth temperature is an interesting question; I believe we're currently 1-2 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial historic average. I think the recent change has not been for the better. Therefore I think it's somewhere around where it was just before the Industrial Revolution, but the years just after the Krakatoa explosion were too cold.
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I said draw it to show it as a percentage, not zoom in on a tiny bit. Thing is if you used your screen mine runs 1920 x1080 it would be a little blob maybe 30 pixels wide. Why do we never hear about the effects of the solar system on weather?

I need to preface, this guy is sponsored by an heirloom seed company, I just put it out up front. He makes a couple of interesting points with references,
I would love to find definitive proof that he is wrong though.

 
ttystikk

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ANC said:
I said draw it to show it as a percentage, not zoom in on a tiny bit. Thing is if you used your screen mine runs 1920 x1080 it would be a little blob maybe 30 pixels wide. Why do we never hear about the effects of the solar system on weather?

I need to preface, this guy is sponsored by an heirloom seed company, I just put it out up front. He makes a couple of interesting points with references,
I would love to find definitive proof that he is wrong though.

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The relevant ratio is growth, not percentage of the total.

It doesn't take much CO2 to affect climate, so if it rises by 50% in less than 200 years (and much more to come) that's much more significant.
 
Stiickygreen

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rkymtnman said:
pretty ballsy statement. you'll be crying like a bitch when they charge you federally with gun and marijuana charges that carry mandatory sentences.
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*No* guns here. Fucking Duh. My point, if you care, is that the FED doesn't have the manpower to police small/individual grows anymore than they have the manpower to go door to door and collect weapons. How many FEDERAL busts have you heard of at home residences for 6 plants? It sounds like, from what I can minimally glean here, that "tyystick" had previous encounters with LOCAL po-po in the same neighborhood and didn't jet to another location and they came back and was found to be over count? I don't even know what to say about that other than I've moved more than once when i felt things weren't right or folks were getting to nosy/close to my business.

But those 'noids are over. We just grow for ourselves now that it's "legal". Fuckers done took the crazy profit and fun right out of the game so we're letting the "experts" takeover and do it all now for 1/3 of what the profits were in the 90's! You know...the whole work harder, not smarter game...'cus >>>they<<< said it was OK now to do. >>>snicker<.

We're small, small fish in a huge, huge, ocean who like to get high and will grow our own no matter what the laws say/what "crackdowns" may come. I've faced Felony charges for weed and hash in the 70's before anyone ever thought of "legal" pot or chose to lie in bed with the State/the taxman, and have had a few close calls since then as well. While every single one of those encounters were a ha$$le in the time and money Dept. and caused me to line the pockets of more than one asshole attorney, none of them were life changing events and i never cried like a bitch once.

Sad to say, I've experienced far worse things in this world that my encounters with the Fife Bros. over this plant.

YMMV.
 
BobCajun

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Grandpapy said:
Edibles, oils and salves will eat it up in no time. My recommendation called for 13.7 lbs per year.
All that get lit, don’t necessarily smoke and have 12 ft ceilings.
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Well there's always the tried and true method, simply ignoring regulations. But if you like voluntarily letting others tell you what to do, that's your business. And if you require 13 lbs a year, over a lb a month, I'd say you need some stronger medicine cuz this weed shit is apparently way too weak to even be worth bothering with. Try some caryophyllene maybe, full CB2 agonist, dose about 400 mg per day.
 
Grandpapy

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BobCajun said:
Well there's always the tried and true method, simply ignoring regulations. But if you like voluntarily letting others tell you what to do, that's your business. And if you require 13 lbs a year, over a lb a month, I'd say you need some stronger medicine cuz this weed shit is apparently way too weak to even be worth bothering with. Try some caryophyllene maybe, full CB2 agonist, dose about 400 mg per day.
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Juicing. 30 plants a month. Never been healthier.
 
greg nr

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BobCajun said:
Well there's always the tried and true method, simply ignoring regulations. But if you like voluntarily letting others tell you what to do, that's your business. And if you require 13 lbs a year, over a lb a month, I'd say you need some stronger medicine cuz this weed shit is apparently way too weak to even be worth bothering with. Try some caryophyllene maybe, full CB2 agonist, dose about 400 mg per day.
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That outlaw crap is a dying cult my friend. Sure, when weed was $4k/lb and you had no other job, the risk was worth the rewards. Nobody is going to risk felony time for something they can just buy at a legal dispensary. Why would they? If it's a question of growing 12 plants legally or felony time to try to sell something that is in low demand and gets me a few hundred dollars *if* it is top shelf, I'm not going guerrilla.

And yes, there will still be illegal grows because some people either know no other way or they can force others to take the risks. But giving advice like that s just silly. Nobody is telling me what to do, least of all you. ;)
 
jonsnow399

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BobCajun said:
Well there's always the tried and true method, simply ignoring regulations. But if you like voluntarily letting others tell you what to do, that's your business. And if you require 13 lbs a year, over a lb a month, I'd say you need some stronger medicine cuz this weed shit is apparently way too weak to even be worth bothering with. Try some caryophyllene maybe, full CB2 agonist, dose about 400 mg per day.
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Opium in nice
 
Grandpapy

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ttystikk said:
Can you explain further? I'm not following you here.
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It was part of my rec. to juice 20-30 palm size leaves daily.
I dont have the room for 99 nor need that many, but it’s not my place say how many you need or how you must use it. I will say the thought of losing this right causes me to worry.

Hopefully they will provide hoops I can (be forced to) jump thru to maintain my health after the first of the year when it goes legal here, without having to depend on untrusted sources.
 
BobCajun

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greg nr said:
That outlaw crap is a dying cult my friend. Sure, when weed was $4k/lb and you had no other job, the risk was worth the rewards. Nobody is going to risk felony time for something they can just buy at a legal dispensary. Why would they? If it's a question of growing 12 plants legally or felony time to try to sell something that is in low demand and gets me a few hundred dollars *if* it is top shelf, I'm not going guerrilla.

And yes, there will still be illegal grows because some people either know no other way or they can force others to take the risks. But giving advice like that s just silly. Nobody is telling me what to do, least of all you. ;)
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Whatever. I don't invite cops in so it's not a problem for me.
 
rkymtnman

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Stiickygreen said:
*No* guns here. Fucking Duh. My point, if you care, is that the FED doesn't have the manpower to police small/individual grows anymore than they have the manpower to go door to door and collect weapons.
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my point is all it takes is an asshole neighbor to call the cops and say there is lots of traffic in and out and they look like high school kids.

if that grower is caught with firearms, a grow, and anything else the cops deem to be distributing materials, that grower is fucked. and by fucked, i mean federal felony charges, not misdemeanors.

a few busts like that get the local news attention and you don't think small growers will think twice about growing?

ask @ttystikk what charges he'd be looking at if he had a gun rack of AKs in his grow area.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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rkymtnman said:
my point is all it takes is an asshole neighbor to call the cops and say there is lots of traffic in and out and they look like high school kids.

if that grower is caught with firearms, a grow, and anything else the cops deem to be distributing materials, that grower is fucked. and by fucked, i mean federal felony charges, not misdemeanors.

a few busts like that get the local news attention and you don't think small growers will think twice about growing?

ask @ttystikk what charges he'd be looking at if he had a gun rack of AKs in his grow area.
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No need to ask, @Stiickygreen , I'll tell you;

I'd be in a Federal prison jail cell right now, looking at a long sentence.
 
Enigma

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So far, I haven't seen one single regulation on growing weed commercially. The only limitation I've seen is keeping the sight and smell away from the general public.

Fuk that, they should vent the smell like Burger King does their burgers.

The people owning the dispensaries don't even smoke, they don't care what happens as long as they are making money and any of the laws they are breaking don't get noticed.
 
Stiickygreen

Stiickygreen

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ttystikk said:
No need to ask, @Stiickygreen , I'll tell you;

I'd be in a Federal prison jail cell right now, looking at a long sentence.
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Ditto. I don't own weapons for that exact reason. (among others)

'A few busts like that' will certainly send the noobs scurrying who didn't start growing until they got the "OK" and the laws changed. Some folks, however, have been growing for decades. Long before anyone gave any OK. It was ALL A CRACKDOWN then. Remember the "Drug Task force" guys? Green Merchant? I sure do. I grew in a crawlspace for 20 years and only 2 people knew about it BECAUSE of the laws at the time....but those laws never stopped me. However, I knew a lot of guys who wanted to grow but who just didn't have the nads to do it. Same shit will happen in the future if the laws happen to change. Some will fold and run...some will plant another 50 and dig the fuck in.

I hope your hurdle is cleared soon, tyystick. I also hope you're looking for a new residence. It sounds (IMO), like you had a few close calls and didn't heed the warning(s) if you had the same nosy neighbor all along. I'd be fuckin out of there in a heartbeat and jamming hard elsewhere (and circling back to deliver a serious dose of cloaked retribution for that ex-neighbor on the backside)....but everyone has a different approach.

In the end, I just don't think the FEDS or the State have the manpower to police in a door-to-door fashion....thus....they have little control over home grows. Yes, they'll find some grows if they look...mostly via other charges like domestic abuse, disorderly conduct, alcohol/probation related incidents/etc....but I seriously doubt they can pull off door-to-door searches and STOP all home grows.

I know I'd be plugging back in the second they left. You?
 
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