I lost my original Durban Poison male about twenty years ago, cross country move and friends that couldn't keep it alive. I still had lot's of F1's and F2's from that male. But just trying to get back to a male as good as my original was a years work easy. I've also tried to "Box" a hybrid before to isolate a past strain that I had bred to oblivion (purple indica), that was back in the day, I can't say that I was ever really all that successful at it. I maybe came close to getting my original purple indica back but by then I could get a few different purple indica's that were as good as the original Santa Cruz purple strain I had. It was a lot of fun and was exciting at the time but I would have been better off looking for new stuff to add and more new stuff to add. I'm a firm believer that adding new genetics strengthens the line more than trying to get back old genetics. That Purple indica and durban are still in my Posen line, but they are back there a long ways now and I wouldn't even consider trying to do the work it would take to isolate and find those strains by working backwords. Just no way. My favorite smoke of all time was probably the original crosses of those two strains, but it's more in my head than in reality. I know that if someone today smoked that cross even at it's best they would probably not pick it over today's strains, things have just moved on and I'm glad that it has, otherwise it would have been stagnant a long time ago.
Chuckers paradise......
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I used to go to cups to meet people and pick up strains, then I'd also learn just how much I had to learn as well as how much luck plays a roll. As for winning cups, you gotta not only get a little lucky you have to know how to work the system a bit. I never entered one but I made a lot of cool contacts for strains, this was before the internet seed thing really took off. I almost started going back to cups to pick up genetics rather than buying seeds on-line. I had a bad experience with a seed merchant and got ticked off enough that I was going to say F all this on-line nonsense. But I decided to read some threads here and decided that not everyone on-line were all that bad. This thread and useful have some great people who give great advice.2009 Star Bud. Nice!
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I cant say that i didnt expect this...i mean with a double back to back streamline grow i could germ/flip/cut/cull twice. For pheno madness...then I had plan to s1 my favorite & keep on trucking. That was going to have me with like 2) 144 sites to manage it all.
Now Idkwtf to do...work 1 line or shoot for 16 in a year. Im not trying get into the business of it...i want to win a cups.
I only recently came out of the weed growers closet and that's because I'm still getting my head wrapped around it being legal. It took a while for it to really sink in, thirty years of being a paranoid security freak isn't easy to give up and just start talking about stuff.
My advice for winning a cup is to got to as many as you can and Smooze, get to know people and how it works, it's not for everyone. I was never really all that temped to join but I was always keeping my head down. I have a hard time being around people now that I don't drink alcohol. PTSD, the weed helps some but not as much as drinking for some reason.
Cups are not for everyone, you have to be really outgoing and Hype Hype Hype. It's like anything, Sales and marketing matter as much or more than your strain. It's funny, I used to dream of winning a cup since the very first one now not so much. Back then if a plant really stuck out, everyone knew it. Now very few strains really stick out so obviously as they did back then. Everything is just that much better and there are Tons of people who can put out cup worthy strains now, so that makes it more and more about Hype.
ChronicWonders.
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I suck at taking photos with my XR. Granted most of my pictures are from outside the tent as I rarely take photos while pulling them out...but still I really need a tutorial...
GODWORK
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Incredible information...i feel like a newbie.
Haha. Wow.
Its crazy how these few post just link my entire grow history. My first grow was way back when attitude was the new hot girl. Blueberry & Bubblegum where like TK.
Rez dog had the ultimate seeds...on icmag.
That was my newbie stage.
Now i hear about everything from truly ole skool growers its insane to me now. Like that purple indica story...kaboom! Mind blown. I saw genuity on a pack of grape stomper seed that i got at auction from years of chasing after attitude soldout. Insane!!
Hearing you talk about purple indica like that makes me think about why i have had this desire to go back to all the stuff that got lost to time. Thunderfuck. NL5/2/1. Heck i even found "dumpster"...you guys didnt grow that weed for nothing. It had to kick ass.
Like killer new haven...that shit had to be awesome as fuxk to be top smoke back then. Maybe im delusional.
Haha. Wow.
Its crazy how these few post just link my entire grow history. My first grow was way back when attitude was the new hot girl. Blueberry & Bubblegum where like TK.
Rez dog had the ultimate seeds...on icmag.
That was my newbie stage.
Now i hear about everything from truly ole skool growers its insane to me now. Like that purple indica story...kaboom! Mind blown. I saw genuity on a pack of grape stomper seed that i got at auction from years of chasing after attitude soldout. Insane!!
Hearing you talk about purple indica like that makes me think about why i have had this desire to go back to all the stuff that got lost to time. Thunderfuck. NL5/2/1. Heck i even found "dumpster"...you guys didnt grow that weed for nothing. It had to kick ass.
Like killer new haven...that shit had to be awesome as fuxk to be top smoke back then. Maybe im delusional.
GODWORK
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Snowhigh has some genetics that i cant even imagine what would turn up in a 40 plant pheno hunt...let alone getting all crazy with a pack of Dr. Grinspoon. 
You cant even find some of those any more.
I dont mean to thread jack...i really dont.
However, when see seven leaf genetics post something call ?primera flats? Or Pirates of TET post ?Xmas '79? ....I think, wtf is gelato?
Im sorry...i banish myself for the next 10 post. Carry on.
You cant even find some of those any more.
I dont mean to thread jack...i really dont.
However, when see seven leaf genetics post something call ?primera flats? Or Pirates of TET post ?Xmas '79? ....I think, wtf is gelato?
Im sorry...i banish myself for the next 10 post. Carry on.
genuity
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Yup,life is Black as hell right now,my son is up north & all I can do is watch & wait.
thenotsoesoteric
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All bullshit to the side, this dude needs to sit in the electric by by chair.
If this isn't appropriate here feel free to remove but I think the info needs to be shared.
If this isn't appropriate here feel free to remove but I think the info needs to be shared.
Mohican
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Wasn't sure but I suspected as much.
When police break the law intentionally and knowingly, and it results in a death, they should get the death penalty. If they lie about anything, they should get double the sentence of the person they railroaded.
I know police who are good people and they work hard to help citizens. That is how I know that these are bad police/people. We need a zero tolerance for reckless asshole police.
Sorry for the rant but this is America and it is not great.
Cheers,
Mo
When police break the law intentionally and knowingly, and it results in a death, they should get the death penalty. If they lie about anything, they should get double the sentence of the person they railroaded.
I know police who are good people and they work hard to help citizens. That is how I know that these are bad police/people. We need a zero tolerance for reckless asshole police.
Sorry for the rant but this is America and it is not great.
Cheers,
Mo
genuity
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I Feel cops should handle bad apples, like street gangs handle bad apples ..
Them few cops,done made the block hot for all them cops in Minneapolis.
If just one of them cops that was standing next to that shit,would have slapped the shit out of that cop,them people would more than likely not be destroying shit today.
genuity
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It's like them people that touch lil boys in church,get caught & get sent to a remote jungle... to become top cardinal or whatever.
More than likely, one of the cops will become chief of police, in another county.
nc208
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It's become a sad practice seeing most police forces today. Theres some BS case in Cali where cops fucking robbed someone for 225,000$ and judge throws it out saying police aren't held liable for their actions while on duty. Fuckin bullshit that cops get to act the ways they do and nothing ever happens.
Federal Court: Cops Accused Of Stealing Over $225,000 Have Legal Immunity
Even though the judges conceded that “virtually every human society teaches that theft generally is morally wrong,” the Ninth Circuit flatly denied it was “obvious” the officers were in the wrong legally.
www.google.com
JohnGlennsGarden
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Damn! I wonder how many people had to look the other way for him to earn that rap sheet.
Of course there are good cops, but we're way beyond just a couple bad apples.
Got three out of four of the (BBK x GSOG) x BBK seeds out of the dirt. They sprouted early the third day. Take that paper-towel-method!
Culled the fourth, still hoping for a single male out of the three though.
Amos Otis
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Well said. I've had the head of vice lie in court against me many years ago, and I was facing a max of 25 years. I also had a state trooper toss a joint and empty a just bought ounce of buds onto the side of an interstate when me and a friend were pulled over, also years ago.
Like any other category of people, there are always a$$holes among them, and we strive to avoid and eliminate them in our life if at all possible. Bosses and gov't workers and politicians abuse their authority all the time because they can, but a bad cop has life and death power and is protected by laws and his weapons, making them the worst.
Good cops have been taking abuse and bullets for years, and in many cases mayors and governors do all they can to work against them. Why would anyone of good character, especially with a family, choose to be a cop? Bad pay, hands tied, and a target on your back. I have no idea.
I believe that's why police are becoming more populated with opportunistic criminal a$$holes, as fewer good guys decide it's just not worth it.
Bakersfield
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No way, Alaska is where washed up bad cops end up after being chased out of America.
