Can someone explain me why are those buds that small at day 36 of flowering (9week flo. strain)

jondamon

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Looks ok to me for 36 days of 12/12.

Generally you have to allow for the stretch period as the plants transition from veg to flower.

This can add up to 2 weeks into your flowering schedule.

Expect a 9 week flowering strain to need around 10-11 weeks of 12/12 depending upon veg time, training, temperatures, feeding regime etc etc.


They plump up more later on down the road as they begin to swell.



J
 

bobigno

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Looks ok to me for 36 days of 12/12.

Generally you have to allow for the stretch period as the plants transition from veg to flower.

This can add up to 2 weeks into your flowering schedule.

Expect a 9 week flowering strain to need around 10-11 weeks of 12/12 depending upon veg time, training, temperatures, feeding regime etc etc.


They plump up more later on down the road as they begin to swell.



J
Hope you are right.. Because i was runnin 5 autos at the same time... and they were weird.. 1 was like budless he had small buds as corn... 1 was small as fuck... 3 were lookin like lowriders and gave me 30g ... not that mutch... So due to this bad (and also first) experience im worried that something's wrong with my growing gear....
 

tip top toker

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Unless you have a valid reason to believe they should be bigger, which based on your experience, you don't, then stop over thinking it. It seems to be a common issue with new growers, thinking there buds should be bigger than they are, and so starting to needlessly change thing thinking it's the culprit, and often creating more problems in the process. a typical one being increasing feed or adding in a plethora of bloom boosters they are not experienced with.
 

bobigno

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Unless you have a valid reason to believe they should be bigger, which based on your experience, you don't, then stop over thinking it. It seems to be a common issue with new growers, thinking there buds should be bigger than they are, and so starting to needlessly change thing thinking it's the culprit, and often creating more problems in the process. a typical one being increasing feed or adding in a plethora of bloom boosters they are not experienced with.
Hey.. Its that a friend of mine already finished his first grow and he said his buds were bigger at this stage ... he was growing a white widow .... those on the pics are mataro blue... That's why im worried so much.. even checked on youtube and saw grows at 35 days of flowering lookin bigger :P You are right... bout changing things and nutrients and so on... but i try to keep everithing as it is since the plants look healthy .... And yes i forgot the 2nd reason why im so worried .. is cuz i did cut of 80% of the fan leaves ... and some ppl told me it may slow bud developing .... What you think bout that? <3
 

tip top toker

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I think that cutting off 80% of fan leaves is a stupid thing to do. The leaves are there for a reason. Trimming is one thing, but that is mutilation, not trimming.

and it is perfectly common for 2 plants of the same strain from the same packet of seeds to have vastly different bud sizes. Let alone two different strains. So long as you base the success of your grow to other peoples grows, you will never be happy. From ym time on this forum, there will always be someone saying you can be doing better, or with a better yield than you. Focus on your plants, not someone elses.
 

bobigno

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Looks ok to me for 36 days of 12/12.

Generally you have to allow for the stretch period as the plants transition from veg to flower.

This can add up to 2 weeks into your flowering schedule.

Expect a 9 week flowering strain to need around 10-11 weeks of 12/12 depending upon veg time, training, temperatures, feeding regime etc etc.


They plump up more later on down the road as they begin to swell.



J
I defoliated them (cut 80%) of fan leaves , veged them for 2 months and toped the main colas once and also topped some side colas... have temps arround 27-29C feeding them with Atami bloom c, Atami bloom booster, Bioroots.. feeding them with nutes 3x than dooin 2x flush.. i water every 2nd day..
 

tip top toker

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I defoliated them (cut 80%) of fan leaves , veged them for 2 months and toped the main colas once and also topped some side colas... have temps arround 27-29C feeding them with Atami bloom c, Atami bloom booster, Bioroots.. feeding them with nutes 3x than dooin 2x flush.. i water every 2nd day..
That is slightly different then. after those two months, the plants will have mended itself and gotten back to where it needs to be. I can condone that. But not people who start removing handfulls of fan leaves during flowering for whatever reaon.
 

bobigno

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I think that cutting off 80% of fan leaves is a stupid thing to do. The leaves are there for a reason. Trimming is one thing, but that is mutilation, not trimming.

and it is perfectly common for 2 plants of the same strain from the same packet of seeds to have vastly different bud sizes. Let alone two different strains. So long as you base the success of your grow to other peoples grows, you will never be happy. From ym time on this forum, there will always be someone saying you can be doing better, or with a better yield than you. Focus on your plants, not someone elses.
Yeah i know thats not so good bud i was reading blogs and stuff on net and actualy found some readings where people claim that defoliating like i did allows more light to penetrate in the canopy so u can get a better yield ... So that worries me pretty much... Maybe do you know how much can such invasive defoliation decrease yield?
 

bobigno

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That is slightly different then. after those two months, the plants will have mended itself and gotten back to where it needs to be. I can condone that. But not people who start removing handfulls of fan leaves during flowering for whatever reaon.
I defoliated em the 1st week of flowering
 

tip top toker

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It could increase, decrease, do nothing.

I will always advise new growers not to mess around doing anything. Unless you have a number of grows under your belt, then should you start topping, defoliating, using bloom boosters, whatever, you'll never have the experience under your belt to compare the new methods against and you'll never know if it was worth the time, effort, and often money. New growers ought to learn how to just grow plants properly, and then look into methods of increasing yields.
 

Dr.J20

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your temps are a little on the high side. slightly, not dangerously. what are your night time temps? humidity?
 

churchhaze

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It's better to plan for those lower buds to not exist in the first place.

You will learn with experience which branches/flower sites don't make it to canopy level, and axe them at switch to 12/12.

Look up lollipopping and thinning out suckers on the lower 1/3 of branches at switch to 12/12.

Yeah i know thats not so good bud i was reading blogs and stuff on net and actualy found some readings where people claim that defoliating like i did allows more light to penetrate in the canopy so u can get a better yield ... So that worries me pretty much... Maybe do you know how much can such invasive defoliation decrease yield?
 

bobigno

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It could increase, decrease, do nothing.

I will always advise new growers not to mess around doing anything. Unless you have a number of grows under your belt, then should you start topping, defoliating, using bloom boosters, whatever, you'll never have the experience under your belt to compare the new methods against and you'll never know if it was worth the time, effort, and often money. New growers ought to learn how to just grow plants properly, and then look into methods of increasing yields.
Yeah... I actually do that... because it is the last grow i can do before summer and i need alot of smoke... But i promised my self not to cut any fan leaves in my life any more :)
 
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