Calyx, pollen sacs or bannanas?

Green wiggler

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How much are you spraying on site? Are you doing plant or bud? Ive always done lower bud and produce 20 seeds or less. Usually 10 to 15 with 5 making it through culling at the most, like l said wasted too much time.
drench it. Stated out spraying just l started out spraying just the lower nodes but it started filling out heavy on top this last week so I've been soaking the top buds and lower nodes, just not the very top one
 

Southernontariogrower

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drench it. Stated out spraying just l started out spraying just the lower nodes but it started filling out heavy on top this last week so I've been soaking the top buds and lower nodes, just not the very top one
Ike l said lve only done lowers, and usually a seedling grown in 12x12, they get big even with deficite. Was just trying to preserve a gas genetic that got missed on anyway. Trying to home out last few babbies of that test atm, need room for real genetics, not my bs. Try shit, unless looking for specific patterning your plants are going to produce nothing of what your looking for. I wanted purple big buds and got it with the ossamine traits, good outdoor that flowers starting july in my locale. Ive let replicate by choosing wild seedling of batch that sprout early april or in march. I get big purple buds that dont get too much rot and found it a success but took almost 7 years. And of no use but makes good hash from afghan in her. No more herm traits, first 4 years almost all hermy.
 

xtsho

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drench it. Stated out spraying just l started out spraying just the lower nodes but it started filling out heavy on top this last week so I've been soaking the top buds and lower nodes, just not the very top one
You don't seem to understand. The Acapulco Gold plant that you have been spraying is not reversing. It's flowering like a normal female. What you are spraying is not working/did not work. The purpose of using CS or STS is to inhibit ethylene production which will cause male flowers to form on female plants. That is not happening with the plant you are spraying. I told you in this thread and one of your previous threads that it is not working. I posted a picture of a plant I reversed which looks like a male. Does that plant you have been spraying show any signs of male flowers? No it doesn't.

I've been reversing plants for years. I know what happens when the process is successful. Yours is not successful. You should focus on growing a healthy plant before you attempt advanced techniques. That Purple Kush in your first post is one unhealthy looking plant. Focus on growing a healthy plant from start to finish. When you master that then move on to more advanced topics. You need to learn how to walk before you can run.
 

curious2garden

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You don't seem to understand. The Acapulco Gold plant that you have been spraying is not reversing. It's flowering like a normal female. What you are spraying is not working/did not work. The purpose of using CS or STS is to inhibit ethylene production which will cause male flowers to form on female plants. That is not happening with the plant you are spraying. I told you in this thread and one of your previous threads that it is not working. I posted a picture of a plant I reversed which looks like a male. Does that plant you have been spraying show any signs of male flowers? No it doesn't.

I've been reversing plants for years. I know what happens when the process is successful. Yours is not successful. You should focus on growing a healthy plant before you attempt advanced techniques. That Purple Kush in your first post is one unhealthy looking plant. Focus on growing a healthy plant from start to finish. When you master that then move on to more advanced topics. You need to learn how to walk before you can run.
I hope he listens to you and I hope he doesn't smoke any of that shit he sprayed.
 

PadawanWarrior

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You don't seem to understand. The Acapulco Gold plant that you have been spraying is not reversing. It's flowering like a normal female. What you are spraying is not working/did not work. The purpose of using CS or STS is to inhibit ethylene production which will cause male flowers to form on female plants. That is not happening with the plant you are spraying. I told you in this thread and one of your previous threads that it is not working. I posted a picture of a plant I reversed which looks like a male. Does that plant you have been spraying show any signs of male flowers? No it doesn't.

I've been reversing plants for years. I know what happens when the process is successful. Yours is not successful. You should focus on growing a healthy plant before you attempt advanced techniques. That Purple Kush in your first post is one unhealthy looking plant. Focus on growing a healthy plant from start to finish. When you master that then move on to more advanced topics. You need to learn how to walk before you can run.
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curious2garden

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I hadn't planned on smoking any of that shit I sprayed. I was simply asking a question about the swollen odds on top of my purple kush. Seems like shit gets out of hand here.
One thing I do when reversing plants or running a pollination table is break open a calyx from time to time to see where we are at. If I saw something like that on top of my plant I'd pull it, open it and have a look.

I use STS and start a week or two before flipping, spraying at the axil sites of the female I'm reversing. I then flip the reversed female, wait 1 week and flip the other females I want it to pollinate.

If I see buds as organized as yours I know my reversal attempt has failed. At which point I kill the sprayed female and finish the table as sinsemilla. I've done that twice when I diluted my STS solution to much.

I hope this helps you.
 

Green wiggler

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One thing I do when reversing plants or running a pollination table is break open a calyx from time to time to see where we are at. If I saw something like that on top of my plant I'd pull it, open it and have a look.

I use STS and start a week or two before flipping, spraying at the axil sites of the female I'm reversing. I then flip the reversed female, wait 1 week and flip the other females I want it to pollinate.

If I see buds as organized as yours I know my reversal attempt has failed. At which point I kill the sprayed female and finish the table as sinsemilla. I've done that twice when I diluted my STS solution to much.

I hope this helps you.
So when what you're saying is, when you spray sts on your nodes you don't get ANY buds at all, you just get seeds all over your plant? And if I have bud on my plant then my procedure has failed. These are my health plants. I was just wondering if an yone anyone could tell me if they had hermied, building seeds or pollen
 

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Alter Jean

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So when what you're saying is, when you spray sts on your nodes you don't get ANY buds at all, you just get seeds all over your plant? And if I have bud on my plant then my procedure has failed. These are my health plants. I was just wondering if an yone anyone could tell me if they had hermied, building seeds or pollen
Weird flex, but ok

It's hurting my brain that you aren't picking up what these very wise people are telling you.
 

PadawanWarrior

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So when what you're saying is, when you spray sts on your nodes you don't get ANY buds at all, you just get seeds all over your plant? And if I have bud on my plant then my procedure has failed. These are my health plants. I was just wondering if an yone anyone could tell me if they had hermied, building seeds or pollen
I'd lower the t5's. I kept mine at like 2" when I was using them for veg.
 

Alter Jean

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We'll see
Trust me, I'm hoping for the best too. But it seems like you're ignoring the advice that has been given to you.

So let me say what's been said 100 different ways already :blsmoke:

Acapulco Gold is a 14-16+ week strain. Purple Kush is not.

You wanted to pollenate the Purple Kush but you put it into flower before the Acapulco Gold.
A seed takes a while to develop. So if your fastest flowering plant is ripening before you even are capable of getting pollen...
Are you following that? Nothing here is correct.

If there is a seed there, and that is a pollen sack on the Purple Kush... It is a herm seed from a plant that looks like Quasimodo.

You are going to think you have made a seed. You have learned absolutely nothing.
And you continue to reject or ignore the people who have done this before you..

Right there, above you. Curious and X. That's gold. I wish I had someone walk me through it like that.

Pluck that calyx tomorrow and let us know how it goes.
 
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curious2garden

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So when what you're saying is, when you spray sts on your nodes you don't get ANY buds at all, you just get seeds all over your plant? And if I have bud on my plant then my procedure has failed. These are my health plants. I was just wondering if an yone anyone could tell me if they had hermied, building seeds or pollen
You can limit which node areas you spray so you get buds on the rest of the plant. The nodal areas you spray will develop male flowers. If you hit some nodes incompletely so you may get bits of flowering surrounding the male flowers but nothing as organized as yours.

If you have fully organized buds in the area you have sprayed as far along as your looks your procedure has likely failed. You can break open some calyxes and check. Hermaphrodism looks different than fully male flowers and you do not look like you have any of those but I can't see your entire plant.

And, what is STS? Is it like colloidal silver?
STS is a mix of AgNO3 (silver nitrate) and Sodium Thiosulfate.

NB: never smoke a plant you sprayed.
 

Green wiggler

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The purple kush went into flower on its own. I had switched my lights from 18/6 to 16/8 bc i was thinking of moving them outdoors.
I started spraying the AG on April 20 bc i thought i had purchased an auto. Bang my head. Wasted about 2 small bottles of cs. Then put the ag into flower, separate tent on 6/10, which is pretty close to the time the pk started flowing on its own. Began spraying cs about 6/1 on the ag. I had seeded another ag about mid May and put them all in the same tent 6/18.
 

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