California Universal Healthcare Bill advances in Legislature

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Universal health plan would save Californians $37 billion and cover more people, study finds

As the California Senate considers voting this week on a proposal to replace private health insurance with a statewide plan that covers everyone, the proposal’s main backers on Wednesday announced it could save $37.5 billion in health care spending — even after adding the state’s nearly 3 million uninsured — according to a new study from economists at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst.

The highly favorable findings — commissioned by the bill’s lead sponsor, an umbrella group for the California Nurses Association — come a week after a Senate committee released eye-popping estimates that threatened to dampen enthusiasm for the bill: that it would cost $400 billion annually, half of which would likely need to come from workers and businesses through a 15 percent payroll tax.

But economists from UMass Amherst’s Political Economy Research Institute reached a different conclusion. They estimated that California would save so much by eliminating insurance-company overhead and controlling prescription drug costs, among other measures, that the state’s businesses and families would pay less for health care than they do now.

They estimate it would cost California $331 billion to provide universal health care to everyone living in the state under a single, government-run plan — even less than the $368.5 billion spent today in a system that leaves millions without coverage. To pay for it, they say, the state needs to find $106 billion in annual tax revenue — far less than the Senate committee’s estimate of $200 billion.

“Californians will get more and will definitely pay less,” said Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, the bill’s co-author, at a news conference Wednesday.

The nurses union also hired the Tulchin Research firm to conduct a statewide opinion poll. It found that 70 percent of Californians are in favor of a universal, single-payer health care system — a percentage that dropped to 58 percent after those surveyed heard arguments from the opposition about the cost. The firm surveyed 600 likely voters May 25-29.

Instead of premiums and out-of-pocket expenses, Californians would pay the state for their health care through higher taxes — the kind of “big government” idea the state’s Republican minority strongly opposes.

This bill sounds like a really good deal for Californians. To an outsider, I'm surprised it's gotten this far, especially when -- as some people who post here claim -- Democrats are so corrupt and serve only the oligarchs. What do the Californians who post here think about this bill?

As always, right wingers are welcome to post stupid shit. Not really but in the interest of free speech and to keep them from driving to Portland Oregon this weekend, I invite them to sit and shit a while.
 
Maybe they can ask the hollywood dems for the 106 billion.im sure babs and Miley will kick in a few million right?
Seriously though the plan to raise payroll taxes is a bad plan.better off finding a way to tax Hollywood some how.would be nice to see a few big states set up their own health insurance plans and leave the fed out of it all together.
 
Maybe they can ask the hollywood dems for the 106 billion.im sure babs and Miley will kick in a few million right?
Seriously though the plan to raise payroll taxes is a bad plan.better off finding a way to tax Hollywood some how.would be nice to see a few big states set up their own health insurance plans and leave the fed out of it all together.
Are you benefitting from medicaid or some other health care program delivered by the fed?
 
Sounds good if you like paying more taxes.
The US pays more for health care with worse results than any other developed nation. US companies pay about $15,000 per family. About 80% of people with healthcare coverage receives it a benefit from their employer. We pay, right now in the form of reduced wages and higher prices while an insurance company profits. Does it matter if payment comes in the form of lower wages or taxes? I'd like to have the same good health care coverage our neighbors to the north enjoy.

Average cost per individual is about $4500. Your blase attitude makes me wonder. Do you even have health care coverage?
 
The US pays more for health care with worse results than any other developed nation. US companies pay about $15,000 per family. About 80% of people with healthcare coverage receives it a benefit from their employer. We pay, right now in the form of reduced wages and higher prices while an insurance company profits. Does it matter if payment comes in the form of lower wages or taxes? I'd like to have the same good health care coverage our neighbors to the north enjoy.

Average cost per individual is about $4500. Your blase attitude makes me wonder. Do you even have health care coverage?
Big difference between us and Canada is we pay a lot more for prescription drugs which is most of our healthcare costs.

If California became it's own country it would be better because then the state can manufacture most of the drugs needed. But that would be Communism which does sound great on paper but it's not that good.
 
Big difference between us and Canada is we pay a lot more for prescription drugs which is most of our healthcare costs.

If California became it's own country it would be better because then the state can manufacture most of the drugs needed. But that would be Communism which does sound great on paper but it's not that good.
I worked for a pharmaceutical. All of the "potents" are made overseas. So they would still have to import those. Remember Union Carbide and Bhopal India? To much concern. You need to get out more. Diversify.
 
I worked for a pharmaceutical. All of the "potents" are made overseas. So they would still have to import those. Remember Union Carbide and Bhopal India? To much concern. You need to get out more. Diversify.
What's that have to do with the price of prescription drugs in America vs Canada? Also you could make all that shit in America it's just cheaper to buy overseas like most everything else.
 
What's that have to do with the price of prescription drugs in America vs Canada? Also you could make all that shit in America it's just cheaper to buy overseas like most everything else.
No actually it has to do with the dangers of potents. 1 microgram inhaled of the wrong thing kills in seconds. Did you Google Bhopal?
 
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