Hey Subcool just wanted to get your take on this opinion for breeding. This is from vic high and then the opinion on using the father to daughters is mine. Thanks I appreciate your time and value your opinion.
Now hereís the ìkickerî ñ because of the negative connotation of the example of an F2 above, some have the mistaken impression that any member of the F2 generation is undesirable as a plant. This is NOT necessarily true. Quite the contrary; the F2 generation is a treasure trove of possibilities. The recombination of genes produces a variety of different plants, among which there may be individuals of great value. This is actually the source for future true-breeding strains. A breeder who recognizes an outstanding and unique individual from an F2 group can work with it to create a true-breeding hybrid strain such as was done with classics like Skunk #1 and Northern Lights. The methods to accomplish this task vary, but back crossing to the original unique plant is typically a part
of a process which ultimately must accomplish the goal of creating a strain which breeds true for all the important traits which made the unique individual so valuable.
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That was a great post Vic, I think it gave a lot of people food for thought. I just wanted to add my two cents. An F1 is a cross conceived from the genes of two different strains. If the parents are true breeding (very rare), then the resulting offspring will follow Mendelís law and the resulting recombinations will be fairly predictable. If you seed the desirable plants together, brothers and sisters, from the F1 population you will see more ancestral lines showing up in the population making it far less predictable. If I take a choice male plant from the F1 population and seed it back to the original mother, or original father with the daughter, I am trying to fix the traits of those particular plants. I call this an F1 Back cross. When I grow out these plants and use the winner with the original mother or father again I recognize this union as a double backcross.
It makes so much more sense to me to cross the best daughters back to the original father to get 'daughter like' traits in future generations. Never, ever crossed my mind to back cross to the father, fuck. Crossing the best F2 male back to the original mother only makes it more like the mother, not the daughters.
The reason I'm asking is it seems we have the hardest time judging what the males carry as they don't produce flowers and we seldom flower them, so by breeding everything back to the original father, I should be able to get traits I want reinforced from females that I like or choose or 'the one', by eliminating the pressure to choose a male, which usually is kinda baseless to the goals of the project.
Why not always breed back to the original father for stability? Choosing the best females rather than guessing on the best males?