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Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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calicat said:
That is assuming if you are creating a microenvironment that is conducive for the growth of that strain of Bacillus. Any person having a micro environment that is leaning to synthetics it will not work in.
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Lacto B doesn't care. It is amazing stuff. It works well in synthetic environments because it is a single organism dominating. What makes this good is that it is a tough one. I first used it while still running ebb and flow which is notorious for RH spikes, and my totally anecdotal perception (I don't own a lab so I am careful for stating fact here), but I feel the Lacto B helped pull me through a very dangerous time with RH frequently hitting 80.

One thing I will not dispute is that one needs to re apply in a synthetic environment, whereas outdoors or in a fully organic rig one or two applications is enough.

of course conditions will exist where this practice will be futile. BUT at least it is incredibly benign. You run no risk of messing up your bud.

Very cool stuff that I feel everybody should at least be aware of.

EDIT: I am going to pose a few q's to a very knowledgeable friend and get back to the topic of micro environment. Everybody should be able to reap these benefits.
 
calicat

calicat

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Mad Hamish said:
Lacto B doesn't care. It is amazing stuff. It works well in synthetic environments because it is a single organism dominating. What makes this good is that it is a tough one. I first used it while still running ebb and flow which is notorious for RH spikes, and my totally anecdotal perception (I don't own a lab so I am careful for stating fact here), but I feel the Lacto B helped pull me through a very dangerous time with RH frequently hitting 80.

One thing I will not dispute is that one needs to re apply in a synthetic environment, whereas outdoors or in a fully organic rig one or two applications is enough.

of course conditions will exist where this practice will be futile. BUT at least it is incredibly benign. You run no risk of messing up your bud.

Very cool stuff that I feel everybody should at least be aware of.

EDIT: I am going to pose a few q's to a very knowledgeable friend and get back to the topic of micro environment. Everybody should be able to reap these benefits.
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Sure it does. This is scientific fact in humans. Lactobacillus is also beneficial in humans as it is a known anti inflammatory and anti carcinogenic ( probiotics is the term thrown around these days). But if a human is consuming McDonald's alot in a given week that probiotic gets negated. Extrapolate that in plant science so you see where I am getting at. In your environment because you are a ROLS grower yes it does wonders.
 
Brokeoldbloke

Brokeoldbloke

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calicat said:
Sure it does. This is scientific fact in humans. Lactobacillus is also beneficial in humans as it is a known anti inflammatory and anti carcinogenic ( probiotics is the term thrown around these days). But if a human is consuming McDonald's alot in a given week that probiotic gets negated. Extrapolate that in plant science so you see where I am getting at. In your environment because you are a ROLS grower yes it does wonders.
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[FONT=&amp]I kinda agree and disagree.

I agree the biggest benefit would be in ROLS but I don’t think the use of synthetic nutes would negatively affect the benefit during a single grow. The bacteria will still be present and helpful.

The proper use of synthetic nutes doesn’t really kill the micro life in the short term it just doesn’t add as much to it. Lots of micros will eat synthetics just like organics. Try mixing a handful of high N synthetic grass fert with a pile of damp leaves. The bacteria population will explode and rapidly break down the carbon of the leaves.

Organics should be considered a long term sustainable solution. No one is getting the full benefit in a single grow and throw.[/FONT]
 
coolkid.02

coolkid.02

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I kinda felt like it was bound to end (for HN)...

a little reckless IMO. Glad mine came safe and sound.

I hope everyone gets their orders.
 
HGK420

HGK420

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reckless indeed. i got a feeling that ceeds weren't the issue. too bad he just got a pile of B in too
 
brek

brek

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  • I believe I finally have enough solid genetics that A) It will be a LONG time before I could ever grow them all out and B) The crosses and F2's I'll be making along the way makes for endless possibilities.

    BUT the question is.......can I control myself when the next drop happens? meh​




 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

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brek said:

  • I believe I finally have enough solid genetics that A) It will be a LONG time before I could ever grow them all out and B) The crosses and F2's I'll be making along the way makes for endless possibilities.

    BUT the question is.......can I control myself when the next drop happens? meh​
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Well i got to stop its just retarded to continue
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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calicat said:
Sure it does. This is scientific fact in humans. Lactobacillus is also beneficial in humans as it is a known anti inflammatory and anti carcinogenic ( probiotics is the term thrown around these days). But if a human is consuming McDonald's alot in a given week that probiotic gets negated. Extrapolate that in plant science so you see where I am getting at. In your environment because you are a ROLS grower yes it does wonders.
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I got you and I have to agree with the McDonalds analogy. It kinda is exactly like that, the McD fan will have to dose himself often to reap any benefit.

And my dirty little secret: I still run a little DTW. Hey I had to finish the stuff I bought lol. The idea of waste is just not one I enjoy. My DTW runoff gets taken from my place to a purification plant so it never hits the soil out here.

I would love to find the 'middle ground' Between synthetic and organic environments. There are places that it crosses over. The response I am waiting for should bring some enlightenment, I asked if the phyllosphere in a synthetic environment can be treated and viewed the same as in organic. And if not, how close can we get? I See no reason for soil environment to affect atmosphere to the point where a bacteria cannot survive, and if the reason exists I want to get rid of it somehow...
Nice to know somebody that can help with the science part. I expect a reply soon. Very very very interesting topic.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Brokeoldbloke said:
Thx all for the comments and info on my rot problem. Spent sometime reading up on it last night as well. Seems a fairly common problem. I'll go back through all the jars in a week to see if I miss any signs of it. I did stick an old air purifier I have in the room. It pulls air across an "germicidal" UV-C lamp not sure if that is the same as ozone generator. I don't know if it is effective on mold spores but it did eliminate the normal plant smell in the room overnight.
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Not the same. UVC will kill pretty much anything. So it should do the trick providing there's enough time to work it's magic. Make sure it never shines on your own skin or you might find yourself with a nasty tumor growing not that long after.
 
Brokeoldbloke

Brokeoldbloke

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OGEvilgenius said:
Not the same. UVC will kill pretty much anything. So it should do the trick providing there's enough time to work it's magic. Make sure it never shines on your own skin or you might find yourself with a nasty tumor growing not that long after.
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Thx, the lamp is in a metal enclosure and air pull across it, You can't see any light from it. There is just an led on the outside that is either steady on or flashes when the lamp dies. I'm just leaving it run to let it hopefully nuke whatever is floating around. So far all I know for sure is it works well for odor control.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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OGEvilgenius said:
Not the same. UVC will kill pretty much anything. So it should do the trick providing there's enough time to work it's magic. Make sure it never shines on your own skin or you might find yourself with a nasty tumor growing not that long after.
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Yeah it is pretty hardcore radiation. Strange what we manage to harness for our benefit.
 
calicat

calicat

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MH after your done with those testers for Bodhi and GGG maybe you could find that middle ground. That would be a killer down time experiment. You have the space and the equipment and most likely to control everything where your assessments would be valid.
 
TonightYou

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Thanks for posting that lactose preparation. Never experienced indoors yet, I've seen it when helping outdoor harvests. It's good to have in the back pocket just in case. Again, thanks.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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calicat said:
MH after your done with those testers for Bodhi and GGG maybe you could find that middle ground. That would be a killer down time experiment. You have the space and the equipment and most likely to control everything where your assessments would be valid.
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I think I will stumble upon the info while talking to other growers. Once you actively look for answers they find you. I rely heavily on the global canna community. This last year has been incredible. Between the bunch of us we are figuring stuff out that would not have come about any other way. All about the Family :) A continuous feedback loop of info. Like with Organic Hydro. I had the idea, couldn't find any info for weeks, then all of a sudden after finding Genuity's work in the field I came across more people pulling it off. Going to have a go at it come winter :)
 
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