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Flaming Pie

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Topping for 8 will make the buds smaller, less chance of rot.

MORE CALCIUM!!!

I would just toss the jar that had any buds from the rotted cola. Spores are now all up in it.

I would watch the other jars closely for a week. Then cut each nug in half and search for any rot. Toss each jar that has a nug with rot.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I had a few tops do that and im not telling you to! But layed it all on a screen and put a cap ozone machine and blasted
it, mold up and fanished. I ended up blasting it to wax anyhow but i did fire a small chunk to see if the ozone left a taste
wasnt any!
 

tree king

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clankie i was just doin some research on island sweet skunk and i found a couple posts where you said you grew it before. im curious did you grow the next generation version? also how did the yield compare to road kill unicorn?
 

Clankie

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clankie i was just doin some research on island sweet skunk and i found a couple posts where you said you grew it before. im curious did you grow the next generation version? also how did the yield compare to road kill unicorn?
they are totally different. iss is much stretchier and more sativa in nature. the cut i grew was from the federation version. grown right it was an absolute yield monster, and is a cherished cut in CO (although there are also some crap iss cuts here, anything that doesn't have monster sativa buds and an overpowering aroma is not the right cut).
i think yield is much more dependent on growing style and skill then plant genetics, almost any cut can be grown in a manner that would make it rewarding, i have a plant that yields at most 1.5-2 oz. per plant, but i can fit 16 of them that size under a 600w light. The ISS could yield 7-10 oz. per plant, but i could only fit four that size under one 1000w.
 

tree king

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they are totally different. iss is much stretchier and more sativa in nature. the cut i grew was from the federation version. grown right it was an absolute yield monster, and is a cherished cut in CO (although there are also some crap iss cuts here, anything that doesn't have monster sativa buds and an overpowering aroma is not the right cut).
i think yield is much more dependent on growing style and skill then plant genetics, almost any cut can be grown in a manner that would make it rewarding, i have a plant that yields at most 1.5-2 oz. per plant, but i can fit 16 of them that size under a 600w light. The ISS could yield 7-10 oz. per plant, but i could only fit four that size under one 1000w.
damn i was hoping you were gonna say it was the next generation version cause i just sprouted 20 feminized seeds from them. do you know anyone thats run the next generation version?

also im curious is there a specific name for that iss cut floating around colorado? maybe i could track it down in the future if the ng version isnt that good. im on the east coast though it would be hard
 

Mad Hamish

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I had a few tops do that and im not telling you to! But layed it all on a screen and put a cap ozone machine and blasted
it, mold up and fanished. I ended up blasting it to wax anyhow but i did fire a small chunk to see if the ozone left a taste
wasnt any!
I did the ozone thing once. It doesn't leave a taste but around 2 days later neither does your weed. Oil always works :)

Guys you can help prevent mould by spraying Lactobacillus and very dilute ACT once a week (lacto b is enough really) up to week 3 of flower. Long as you don't spray other stuff it will establish a healthy phyllosphere where moulds cannot take hold. Micro organisms are not only in soil they are all over a healthy plant in nature.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I did the ozone thing once. It doesn't leave a taste but around 2 days later neither does your weed. Oil always works :)

Guys you can help prevent mould by spraying Lactobacillus and very dilute ACT once a week (lacto b is enough really) up to week 3 of flower. Long as you don't spray other stuff it will establish a healthy phyllosphere where moulds cannot take hold. Micro organisms are not only in soil they are all over a healthy plant in nature.
Me likes....
 

OGEvilgenius

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I did the ozone thing once. It doesn't leave a taste but around 2 days later neither does your weed. Oil always works :)

Guys you can help prevent mould by spraying Lactobacillus and very dilute ACT once a week (lacto b is enough really) up to week 3 of flower. Long as you don't spray other stuff it will establish a healthy phyllosphere where moulds cannot take hold. Micro organisms are not only in soil they are all over a healthy plant in nature.
Yep... in fact you can spray pretty late into flower if you're not crazy, but you need to use caution. Common trick outdoors here is to brew up some quality compost tea and use it as a foliar outdoors late in the season to prevent rot.
 

Mad Hamish

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Yep... in fact you can spray pretty late into flower if you're not crazy, but you need to use caution. Common trick outdoors here is to brew up some quality compost tea and use it as a foliar outdoors late in the season to prevent rot.
Exactly what I am busy doing ;) Our first soft rains and 4 weeks into flower on some so it is time to get them prepared. I stopped growing any Indica outdoors, haven't seen much rot since.
 

Brokeoldbloke

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Thx all for the comments and info on my rot problem. Spent sometime reading up on it last night as well. Seems a fairly common problem. I'll go back through all the jars in a week to see if I miss any signs of it. I did stick an old air purifier I have in the room. It pulls air across an "germicidal" UV-C lamp not sure if that is the same as ozone generator. I don't know if it is effective on mold spores but it did eliminate the normal plant smell in the room overnight.
 

Mad Hamish

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Thx all for the comments and info on my rot problem. Spent sometime reading up on it last night as well. Seems a fairly common problem. I'll go back through all the jars in a week to see if I miss any signs of it. I did stick an old air purifier I have in the room. It pulls air across an "germicidal" UV-C lamp not sure if that is the same as ozone generator. I don't know if it is effective on mold spores but it did eliminate the normal plant smell in the room overnight.
Those things will sterilize anything properly trust me. We use UV-C lamps to sterilize water on large scale out here. If it is one of those where you can't see the lamp or any light off it AT ALL, I bet it is more than potent enough.

EDIT: The test logs are starting to look damn exciting. Some amazing plants with amazing vigor. The Deadly G drop is going to send a shockwave of dankness across the globe. Very exciting times.
 

Amos Otis

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I did the ozone thing once. It doesn't leave a taste but around 2 days later neither does your weed. Oil always works :)

Guys you can help prevent mould by spraying Lactobacillus and very dilute ACT once a week (lacto b is enough really) up to week 3 of flower. Long as you don't spray other stuff it will establish a healthy phyllosphere where moulds cannot take hold. Micro organisms are not only in soil they are all over a healthy plant in nature.
Is this 3 weeks from switch to 12 / 12 ?

This could be huge info. I hope this lacto b is not difficult to obtain.
 

Farmguy

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Sorry to be off topic abit but anyone notice HN isn't updating on instagram? Wonder if big brother finally caught on...hope not cause for us peeps it was the shit! FG
 

Brokeoldbloke

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Those things will sterilize anything properly trust me. We use UV-C lamps to sterilize water on large scale out here. If it is one of those where you can't see the lamp or any light off it AT ALL, I bet it is more than potent enough.
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Cool, that sounds like what I have.
 

Mad Hamish

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Is this 3 weeks from switch to 12 / 12 ?

This could be huge info. I hope this lacto b is not difficult to obtain.
Yup, 3 weeks into flower is still great! I usually hit them just before dark so the moisture is not on the plant during warm hours, this just makes me feel a little safer.

OK on to the Lacto B. Not hard to obtain at all, it exists in every breath you take. Culturing your own is cheap and easy. I have some going right now, I will go get a pic of it and come show you in a bit. But first the method (I am going to be speaking Metric now LOL):

You will need:
Some brown rice, about a quarter cup is fine.
Some large glass jars. Even better is a seperatory funnel.
Some 'oil' filters, coffee filters are too fine but work
milk
water

Put around a quarter cup brown rice in a jar and fill the jar about halfway with water. Close lid and shake until the water becomes cloudy. Strain water and set aside in a clean jar. You want the water level around 3/4 up the jar for max microbe harvesting. Place this jar somewhere around 2ft off the ground (most bacterial spores float there). Wait a few days for this to start smelling and looking a little nasty. 4-7 days usually. You can just leave it for 7 days to be safe.

Then add this to milk in a nice big jar in a 1:10 starter serum to milk ratio. A clear jar is essential, or a seperatopry funnel. Now it is another 1-5 days wait. What you want to see is a white glob of congealed curds floating on top of a yellowish clear liquid. That yellow liquid is your Lacto B PURE SERUM :) OK it has a few other bennies in there too but mostly lactic acid bacteria.

If you have a seperatory funnel, just open the tap and drain off the serum. Don't discard the curds. If you have dogs it will freshen their breath, act as a probiotic and strengthen their digestive systems. Cats too. If you suffer from digestive issues, have a tablespoon of it yourself, people in Korea have been doing it for hundreds of years.

You have a choice as to how to treat your pure serum. If it is all for instant use (doubtful) just store it in the fridge. If it is for long term use, you need to dilute this serum with 1/3 to 1/2 carb solution. This is easy, it is simply Blackstrap Molasses and water in a 1:3 ratio. At room temperature, your microbes will feed and multiply. You might get the smell of fermentation, this is fine, but if you do store in fridge IMMEDIATELY. Or store in fridge once diluted and it will keep fresh for 3 months.

To use, with both pure serum and molasses added, use in a 1:20 dilution and spray.

If you use tons of guano and similar ammonia nitrogen food sources, drench your soil with it. It will change all your ammonia to lovely nitrates. You have any kind of organic stink anywhere, like manure or a stinky compost heap, spray it down and smell will disappear. It is the main microbe that makes Bokashi work.

Lactobacillus, Natures Workhorse!
 

HydroChemBot

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Mad Hamish... thanks for the report on the Dream Beaver i makes me even more psyched to grow it. One question I live in New England do u think it would finish outside? Or are you still finding that out? It would be great if it made it outside as I plan on having 6 absolute beasts Im talking 15-20 footers if the strain will take me that high. The Dirty Hippie did I hear that was a Goji pheno that really stunk? I can't remember.
So I have 5 biker kush freebies hope I get a keeper female from that.

thanks again for the info, I need all the help I can get
 

Mad Hamish

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Oh yeah I forgot to add, NO LIDS for jars while culturing. You can use some cheesecloth or similar to keep it clean, but you always want air exchange possible.

This serum is a few hours from done. This was a really quick culture, only one day in the milk, but that is because I left the rice water for 7 days till it was TEEMING with life.

 

Mad Hamish

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Mad Hamish... thanks for the report on the Dream Beaver i makes me even more psyched to grow it. One question I live in New England do u think it would finish outside? Or are you still finding that out? It would be great if it made it outside as I plan on having 6 absolute beasts Im talking 15-20 footers if the strain will take me that high. The Dirty Hippie did I hear that was a Goji pheno that really stunk? I can't remember.
So I have 5 biker kush freebies hope I get a keeper female from that.

thanks again for the info, I need all the help I can get
Dirty Hippy is an Afgooey from Gooeybreeder 'blocked' cross. Far as I know it is a Gooey creation. Trust me mate, you want plants that size you are choosing the right pack of beans. I cannot comment on the finishing time for your area, it is generally between 8 and 10 weeks to finish, any New England growers out here that can comment on the harvest window by you guys?...

For Fruit Salad (what I call my favourite pheno) gets so dense I think rain will just run straight off the bud. Intense little medieval weapon looking monsters.

But yeah they will get as big as you want them to. Give the roots space and stand back. I commented on Breedbay that it is sure an indoor friendly type, but it WANTS to be outside. The difference is phenomenal. I am very used to taking indoor plants outside and have never seen such a huge difference. A lot of that vigor goes into the branching, one of this type's main strong points and one that every outdoor grower will appreciate. They will get nearly as wide as they are tall brother.

Here are some clones outdoors in small pots. Look at that tight node space!!! They are frosting up like beasts. Not so easy getting that in the pics outdoors with plants waving around in the wind, sigh...

 

Amos Otis

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Yup, 3 weeks into flower is still great! I usually hit them just before dark so the moisture is not on the plant during warm hours, this just makes me feel a little safer.

OK on to the Lacto B. Not hard to obtain at all, it exists in every breath you take. Culturing your own is cheap and easy. I have some going right now, I will go get a pic of it and come show you in a bit. But first the method (I am going to be speaking Metric now LOL):

You will need:
Some brown rice, about a quarter cup is fine.
Some large glass jars. Even better is a seperatory funnel.
Some 'oil' filters, coffee filters are too fine but work
milk
water

Put around a quarter cup brown rice in a jar and fill the jar about halfway with water. Close lid and shake until the water becomes cloudy. Strain water and set aside in a clean jar. You want the water level around 3/4 up the jar for max microbe harvesting. Place this jar somewhere around 2ft off the ground (most bacterial spores float there). Wait a few days for this to start smelling and looking a little nasty. 4-7 days usually. You can just leave it for 7 days to be safe.

Then add this to milk in a nice big jar in a 1:10 starter serum to milk ratio. A clear jar is essential, or a seperatopry funnel. Now it is another 1-5 days wait. What you want to see is a white glob of congealed curds floating on top of a yellowish clear liquid. That yellow liquid is your Lacto B PURE SERUM :) OK it has a few other bennies in there too but mostly lactic acid bacteria.

If you have a seperatory funnel, just open the tap and drain off the serum. Don't discard the curds. If you have dogs it will freshen their breath, act as a probiotic and strengthen their digestive systems. Cats too. If you suffer from digestive issues, have a tablespoon of it yourself, people in Korea have been doing it for hundreds of years.

You have a choice as to how to treat your pure serum. If it is all for instant use (doubtful) just store it in the fridge. If it is for long term use, you need to dilute this serum with 1/3 to 1/2 carb solution. This is easy, it is simply Blackstrap Molasses and water in a 1:3 ratio. At room temperature, your microbes will feed and multiply. You might get the smell of fermentation, this is fine, but if you do store in fridge IMMEDIATELY. Or store in fridge once diluted and it will keep fresh for 3 months.

To use, with both pure serum and molasses added, use in a 1:20 dilution and spray.

If you use tons of guano and similar ammonia nitrogen food sources, drench your soil with it. It will change all your ammonia to lovely nitrates. You have any kind of organic stink anywhere, like manure or a stinky compost heap, spray it down and smell will disappear. It is the main microbe that makes Bokashi work.

Lactobacillus, Natures Workhorse!
I'd rep you again for ^ post. WTH is the like button anyway?

You might remember from the 'spaghetti sauce' conversation that I'm a 'less I have to think about details' the better kind of human. I also don't have the kind of living quarters or a total consent old lady to do these sort of projects. Though I've only had rot a couple of times, I'd still like to prevent it, so here's likely a dumb question......

Apparantly this lacto B has many permutations that are used for human supplements as pro-biotics, usually in pill or capsules, but some, like this one

http://www.amazon.com/Probonix--Supply-Liquid-Probiotic-Bacteria/dp/B00G2KGBJQ/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392394685&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=lactobacillus+plant+mold

is a liquid with an eye dropper. Is it possible that a plant formula could be made by adding one of these products to water?
 

calicat

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I did the ozone thing once. It doesn't leave a taste but around 2 days later neither does your weed. Oil always works :)

Guys you can help prevent mould by spraying Lactobacillus and very dilute ACT once a week (lacto b is enough really) up to week 3 of flower. Long as you don't spray other stuff it will establish a healthy phyllosphere where moulds cannot take hold. Micro organisms are not only in soil they are all over a healthy plant in nature.
That is assuming if you are creating a microenvironment that is conducive for the growth of that strain of Bacillus. Any person having a micro environment that is leaning to synthetics it will not work in.
 
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