Blew my breaker, plug grounded?

Moabfighter

Moabfighter

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Here’s my few bits of thought process on the problem

one.Too much on one outlet (grow outlet) and fried it. I changed outlet. Still no success.
two. Pumpkin outlet. I pulled it and it looks better than the grow outlet....
Three bad breaker. Not it
Four. Mice. Maybe.
five. The heavy storm the night all went bad

That’s about all it can be IMO
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Moabfighter said:
Here’s my few bits of thought process on the problem

one.Too much on one outlet (grow outlet) and fried it. I changed outlet. Still no success.
two. Pumpkin outlet. I pulled it and it looks better than the grow outlet....
Three bad breaker. Not it
Four. Mice. Maybe.
five. The heavy storm the night all went bad

That’s about all it can be IMO
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your right.
my take on this is that you ran your outlet too hot and it caused a problem in another outlet. that also leads me to bel;ieve that you did not "cause this" you just made the bad part reveal itself.....thats my opinion so far.
 
getogrow

getogrow

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getogrow said:
your right.
my take on this is that you ran your outlet too hot and it caused a problem in another outlet. that also leads me to bel;ieve that you did not "cause this" you just made the bad part reveal itself.....thats my opinion so far.
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if you ran too much power to that plug then i suspect you had a 6 way strip or something plugged into it..... The strip would have melted way before the plug or the wiring. Usually thats gonna be the case with the plug too..... That outlet that you think you overloaded would be burned up......it was not.

Im well over 50% that this has nothing to do with you or your grow. This was existing, you just used enough power to actually see the problem. Or even more likely , the lightning shook something loose causing it to touch/short.
Keep taking out the plugs that do not work first and just peep um out. edit: disreguard this question.Is there possibly a plug in that room that still works ? or maybe right outside the room in the hallway ?
 
Boatguy

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getogrow said:
if you ran too much power to that plug then i suspect you had a 6 way strip or something plugged into it..... The strip would have melted way before the plug or the wiring. Usually thats gonna be the case with the plug too..... That outlet that you think you overloaded would be burned up......it was not.

Im well over 50% that this has nothing to do with you or your grow. This was existing, you just used enough power to actually see the problem. Or even more likely , the lightning shook something loose causing it to touch/short.
Keep taking out the plugs that do not work first and just peep um out. Is there possibly a plug in that room that still works ? or maybe right outside the room in the hallway ?
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I dont know about that. If there is a junction box somewhere, and a single feed is supplying the whole area, the insulation would melt of the neutral there long before the strip melted.
 
Moabfighter

Moabfighter

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getogrow said:
if you ran too much power to that plug then i suspect you had a 6 way strip or something plugged into it..... The strip would have melted way before the plug or the wiring. Usually thats gonna be the case with the plug too..... That outlet that you think you overloaded would be burned up......it was not.

Im well over 50% that this has nothing to do with you or your grow. This was existing, you just used enough power to actually see the problem. Or even more likely , the lightning shook something loose causing it to touch/short.
Keep taking out the plugs that do not work first and just peep um out. edit: disreguard this question.Is there possibly a plug in that room that still works ? or maybe right outside the room in the hallway ?
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So the “pumpkin plug” is in living room by the back wall. Along that back wall, going to the grow room, are three plugs in kitchen. All three of those plugs work fine. Bathroom between kitchen and grow room, all work fine. Hallway, right outside bathroom, the overhead light does not work. The kitchen overhead. Does not work. Living room light and fan, does not work. Grow room, after bathroom, does not work.
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Boatguy said:
I dont know about that. If there is a junction box somewhere, and a single feed is supplying the whole area, the insulation would melt of the neutral there long before the strip melted.
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i agree but im going by what i see an hear.....im obviously guessing. The wiring an panel is new enough to assume they wired it up to date is all i was getting at.
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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getogrow said:
i agree but im going by what i see an hear.....im obviously guessing. The wiring an panel is new enough to assume they wired it up to date is all i was getting at.
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Does the op have a meter? Did he confirm there is a short with a continuity test?
If he did i would turn off power at the panel, start disconnecting wires from outlets, and rechecking for continuity between neutral, hot and ground til i isolated the problem.
Repeatedly cycling the breaker to check is no bueno
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Moabfighter said:
So the “pumpkin plug” is in living room by the back wall. Along that back wall, going to the grow room, are three plugs in kitchen. All three of those plugs work fine. Bathroom between kitchen and grow room, all work fine. Hallway, right outside bathroom, the overhead light does not work. The kitchen overhead. Does not work. Living room light and fan, does not work. Grow room, after bathroom, does not work.
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forgive me for jumping to conclusions all the time but the problem is most likely in the lights. LOTS of guys use the lights as a "junction box" for different things. so far you have 5 outlets and 3 lights/fans on that circuit ?
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Boatguy said:
Does the op have a meter? Did he confirm there is a short with a continuity test?
If he did i would start disconnecting wires from outlets, and rechecking for continuity between neutral, hot and ground til i isolated the problem.
Repeatedly cycling the breaker to check is no bueno
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he has none of that and is just going by us.... He did not confirm a short, the breaker does. you would have to read the whole thread. We are all guessing here.... trying to help is all.
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Boatguy said:
If there is a junction box somewhere, and a single feed is supplying the whole area, the insulation would melt of the neutral there long before the strip melted.
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This would fully apply if the problem is melted wire in the light. That is what i am suspecting at this point. I dont think he overloaded it , i still think its a bad connection showing itself after the lightning storm. Again this is pure educated opinion from his commments and tests.
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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getogrow said:
he has none of that and is just going by us.... He did not confirm a short, the breaker does. you would have to read the whole thread. We are all guessing here.... trying to help is all.
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Recommending fixing without a meter is bad advice. Power can be left off and problem can be found with a very, very cheap meter.
Should be the only advice given here. This is a growing forum
 
BigBadAbe

BigBadAbe

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getogrow said:
This dude has been the MAN at pointing out all the little shit that could happen in different scenerios! thanks brother!
I doubt thats it going by looks but hey its worth a shot!
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Watching along agree with what you said so far on Trouble Shoot
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Boatguy said:
Recommending fixing without a meter is bad advice. Power can be left off and problem can be found with a very, very cheap meter.
Should be the only advice given here. This is a growing forum
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This a HELPFUL growing forum.
Sure power can be left off and the problem can be found with a cheap meter.....how long you think it would take you to do that?
If its a simple fix , we'll help him find it , if not hes gonna need an electrician.....he knows this already. its no big deal bud.
 
Nizza

Nizza

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how about also swapping two identical breakers just for shits and giggles? One that you know is working, with another that isn't. Also now that you've replaced one outlet, you know that isn't the problem, you can swap the one that probably worked for the next one, and so on.

I know those outlets with the "stab in" connections can be very problematic, and you should probably replace the ones for your grow room at least with the screw in connections.

and if you have access to a multimeter, try checking each leg coming in from the street (the black and white ones) to ground and ensure you get around 120v from each side. I would have assumed the electrician would have done this
 
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