Bleach instead of H2o2

nothingtodeclare · Feb 10, 2011

i want to use bleach but in uk an cant get chlorox, i can get get 3%,6% an 9% h2o2 at all my local pharmacy's been so many threads going on about the stabalizers init to increase shelf life, all the bleach including regular says it has some disinfectant or perfume added if you are in uk what type of bleach do you use????? i think i might just go the zone route as i had the slime ,the thing is its really cold an i can keep my res in the 50 degrees but still got slimed

choempi · Feb 10, 2011

frogster said:
8 drops per gallon is 1/2ml with my dropper..... so for 50 gallons 25ml. every 2-3 days for maintenance amounts? sound right?.. Im using 6% clorox.... Someone posted 2.5tsp (12.5ml) is 2ppm in 50 gallons... so the 8drop per gallon should be 4ppm if using the same bleach.... lots of assumptions here..!

Fatman said 3ppm I believe

hellraizer30 · Feb 13, 2011

well I went 6 drops per gal and 35 gal was 10 ml and all my problems are gone like magic and no negative signs on plants at all

choempi · Feb 13, 2011

hellraizer30 said:
well I went 6 drops per gal and 35 gal was 10 ml and all my problems are gone like magic and no negative signs on plants at all

Good for you, that is why I switched, it worked.

Never harmed any plants.

SnakierGrizzly · Feb 13, 2011

i wouldn't do that

hellraizer30 · Feb 15, 2011

SnakierGrizzly said:
i wouldn't do that

well you go ahead an use whatever you use, but bleach rocks at the right dose
and if you read this hole threead you would see the bleach was my last resort,
I tryed everything and endless amounts of $ just to find out some basic
over the counter bleach works. say what you want hate how you want,
kinda like like saying pots bad for you but you never even tryed it

choempi · Feb 16, 2011

hellraizer30 said:
well you go ahead an use whatever you use, but bleach rocks at the right dose
and if you read this hole threead you would see the bleach was my last resort,
I tryed everything and endless amounts of $ just to find out some basic
over the counter bleach works. say what you want hate how you want,
kinda like like saying pots bad for you but you never even tryed it

I have yet to find one person say they tried bleach and it hurt their grow in any way, and you would think a thread like this would bring them out in force. I trusted Fatmans data, and am satisfied.

frogster · Feb 16, 2011

Yep. worked for me.... first time i have had white roots that are growing larger since the issues!! Im even dosing heavy according to everything...

first be · Feb 17, 2011

As rule of thumb the dosage level should be one kilo of sodium percarbonate to treat between 14000 and 28000 litres of water.I trusted Fatmans data, and am satisfied.

choempi · Feb 17, 2011

frogster said:
Yep. worked for me.... first time i have had white roots that are growing larger since the issues!! Im even dosing heavy according to everything...

It is not that hard, peeps just resist, that is cool.

hellraizer30 · Feb 19, 2011

just a update been a week sinse I last added bleach and no sign of any bactira or algie or negative affect

thegreensurfer · Feb 19, 2011

ive used it. no noticeable problems with plants. it didnt break up the algae embedded on my coco mat but it did keep everything else algae free & clean.
no aquarium smell from the rez either

Tiger Woods · Feb 25, 2011

Fatman says 1ml per 10 gallons but also says to add 6-8 drops per gallon for regular pathogen control and its also strong enough for root rot. Obviously those are to huge differences. A drop being 0.05 - 0.06 ml. That's approximatly 1/2 ml per gallon. I've been using the 1ml per 10 gallon. Now thinking I haven't been adding enough. Fucking root rot. I use aero btw.

I've tried Great White before and it kicked the shit out of the rot. Tried it again (yes for the same problem) and it didn't work. Said fuck it and switched back to a full line of chems.(dyna-gro bloom/grow and supps pro-tek/KLN w/ added clorox every 2 days). I've read by fatman to add every 12-24 hrs and thought that was bit excessive should I be adding the bleach more often ? The debate is still out on which is better IMO on H2o2 vs. Clorox?

All advice and opinions welcome

hellraizer30 · Feb 25, 2011

im doing somthing deferent, im adding bleach to start the week 15ml for 55gal and at day 3 I add h202 at 7ML per gal, then to start the new week back to bleach
and is working fucking awsome

Tiger Woods · Feb 26, 2011

Hellraizer- so it looks like you lean more towards the 6-8 drops per gallon rule ? how long have you been doing this? Keep us posted on the results.

Thanks

poindexterous · Feb 26, 2011

I used to have frequent trouble in my ez-cloners with roots dying after the cutting were well rooted, and to a lesser degree cuttings not rooting due to bacteria. I have never once had H2O2 be of any help at all having tried it at various strengths many times. Chlorine on the other hand had immediate results keeping roots white and growing. I use dry pool shock(calcium hypochlorite) instead of liquid bleach. I dissolve 2 grams in a gallon of RO water and add one ounce of that per 5 gallons of rez water, and re-dose every 2nd to 3rd day. Not saying this is any better than liquid bleach just another way to do it. Also pool test strips are handy to actually know the ppm's of chlorine in ones rez, they measure between 0.5 to 10ppm.

hellraizer30 · Feb 26, 2011

Tiger Woods said:
Hellraizer- so it looks like you lean more towards the 6-8 drops per gallon rule ? how long have you been doing this? Keep us posted on the results.

Thanks

been three weeks now and all is great. you cant even smell the the bleach in there and no plant problems
6-8 is good ive seen and read that 10 drops are ok never done it

frogster · Mar 11, 2011

When I change my nutes out (50 gallons) , I just add tap, and 15-20ml ... then I add 15ml every 3 days ,,, works great... screw h202 by itself... I kinda like the idea of using a alternating combo... interesting

hellraizer30 · Mar 11, 2011

update seems bleach and H202 is keeping things at bay but not killing the bactiria in my res so im looking into DM-zone or sm90
just cant get this shit to die keeps poping back up!!! I still stand by the use of it plants look great just not geting a rid of the shit
in the res

choempi · Mar 11, 2011

hellraizer30 said:
update seems bleach and H202 is keeping things at bay but not killing the bactiria in my res so im looking into DM-zone or sm90
just cant get this shit to die keeps poping back up!!! I still stand by the use of it plants look great just not geting a rid of the shit
in the res

skip the h2o2

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