BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial
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SaybianTv
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lollllllllll, skyladder, thanks! ok, ya, we'll RIU T.M. that, "The Skyladder" and its fleet :]
how about a missile silo for my setup ?
vac assisted pour though is pretty sweet though..been thinking about that ish..
how do you go about doing that? please expain im thinking>>>
vacuum > closed off valve to big empty vacuum chamber (full of vacuum)> valve >> assisted pour chamber >> tube?
you could draw a picture if thats easier :]
Guz i showed you how to do it and you ignored it, the vacuum is pulled through the tube then the funnel then the collection vessel. This only works with an "waster Apirator pump" The pump is run on water so when the gas goes down the line it's mixed with water before released to atmosphere for even more reduced boomsquish. The major issue i see is my bottom flask isn't surrounded by dry ice which helps stop the butane from boiling. Nobody wants a muffin in a bottle, It's really just the thermos method setup in one continuous line. But my fluid was chilled to -40 so I got away with no external ice pack. I stop pulling the vac once the frost start melting on the outside of the blast tube. It's not a recommended Tek just something to be talked about. Like maybe if blah blah blah safety could go up 4x. It's safer from things like blowback thanks to the vacuum assist, it obviously needs wind protection so it doesn't get knocked over n so on, but I thought maybe it could be useful to the I have to blow up types.
My RockStar trim finished drying today so thought I would do a run of it to compare it to the fresh frozen RS buds I did just over a week ago.
I gotta say I think there is a greenish yellow tinge to the extract this time. I'm not positive cause I moved my set up to a different building and there is incandescent lighting in it where as there was fluorescence's in the other shop I was in before so maybe it's the lighting?
Guess time will tell as it finishes up..
I could fit a lot more weight in my tubes with this dried ground up trim than with ground up dried bud. I can fit between 210-240 grams of dried bud in my tubes but with this dried ground trim I fit 320 grams in the tubes.
So for a total I sprayed 600 grams of dried ground trim..
I air purged it with no heat for 12 hrs then I just put it on 80F to air purge for a few hours before I put it in the vac to muffin..
Question for you guys: if there is a green tinge to it; is it true I could have put the oil out in sunlight for a couple of hours and the UV rays from the sunlight would remove the green tinge? I read that a couple places. Someone linked something the other day on the forum where someone was saying that and I heard it before too.
They say that it will remove the green tinge before the light can degrade the oil. Anyone ever try this?
I gotta say I think there is a greenish yellow tinge to the extract this time. I'm not positive cause I moved my set up to a different building and there is incandescent lighting in it where as there was fluorescence's in the other shop I was in before so maybe it's the lighting?
Guess time will tell as it finishes up..
I could fit a lot more weight in my tubes with this dried ground up trim than with ground up dried bud. I can fit between 210-240 grams of dried bud in my tubes but with this dried ground trim I fit 320 grams in the tubes.
So for a total I sprayed 600 grams of dried ground trim..
I air purged it with no heat for 12 hrs then I just put it on 80F to air purge for a few hours before I put it in the vac to muffin..
Question for you guys: if there is a green tinge to it; is it true I could have put the oil out in sunlight for a couple of hours and the UV rays from the sunlight would remove the green tinge? I read that a couple places. Someone linked something the other day on the forum where someone was saying that and I heard it before too.
They say that it will remove the green tinge before the light can degrade the oil. Anyone ever try this?
SaybianTv
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This could recycle it via a cold trap in between the bottle's tube and the exit under water. It's just a matter of getting it cold enough. Fuck me I could i just never thought of it cuzz I don't know how to handle a glass trap full of butane as it's not pressurized. That's the flaw why it can't recycle without becoming really dangerous at the end. That's best left to a Terpinator with all those sexy metal bolts and tubes. Yeah the idea of dropping that glass bottle thing from cold hands freaks me out, it could get violent as room temps try n agitate my butane while i scream who moved my giant thermos. Nah it makes it safe to theoretically blast indoor's cuzz it's a 1 way loop to outside but I'm not going to hell for even implying it. But you can clearly see in the photo I'm indoors near a window. The venturi pump is what makes it all super safe, and if you did have a fire just pull out the pump and let water spray everywhere. <-- not a safeguard against jack shit.
SaybianTv
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B.C.OG
I've tried it, it will take an electric green tinge out of the oil, but it's not going to turn an overnight soak iso run into golden golden.
That's Skunk Pharm tek, ask FadeDawg for more details. Yoda are you in BC like me and Vac?
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/chlorophyll-pickup-in-extractions/
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/getting-the-green-and-waxes-out-afterwards/
I've tried it, it will take an electric green tinge out of the oil, but it's not going to turn an overnight soak iso run into golden golden.
That's Skunk Pharm tek, ask FadeDawg for more details. Yoda are you in BC like me and Vac?
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/chlorophyll-pickup-in-extractions/
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/getting-the-green-and-waxes-out-afterwards/
SaybianTv
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Oh man a local dabstar, are you in the actual van scene like me or in the artic circle of canada like vac? I wish I knew grower's so i could please em with my oil and get a connect. I feel like my life is the luck of the draw and you never know when it's going to come up fan leaves.
Guzias1
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Sayb. The glass recycle does sound insane, unless you were in a very very controlled environment. Ahhh ok. So the butane exits outside somewhere?
Okay okayy. Noice!
A buddy does similar. But you say you have a special vacuum for this? He does it a bit lax, but still an enclosed blast, and exit outside
Okay okayy. Noice!
A buddy does similar. But you say you have a special vacuum for this? He does it a bit lax, but still an enclosed blast, and exit outside
SaybianTv
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Yep, super expensive exclusive can't have many many part's don't touch beware this pump is awesome pump.
it's about 20 to 40 bux hehee, omg that little guy has done so many jobs, Im going to make and attachment so I can use it for cupping therapy.
http://www.amazon.com/Nalgene-6140-0010-Aspirator-Polypropylene-Threading/dp/B003OBYNBO
You need to have one of these around, kiss the hand pump days goodbye and say hello to your new wife friendly night vac pump. 28.5 hg
it's about 20 to 40 bux hehee, omg that little guy has done so many jobs, Im going to make and attachment so I can use it for cupping therapy.
http://www.amazon.com/Nalgene-6140-0010-Aspirator-Polypropylene-Threading/dp/B003OBYNBO
You need to have one of these around, kiss the hand pump days goodbye and say hello to your new wife friendly night vac pump. 28.5 hg
Interesting. Was that with freshly sprayed stuff or was it after the butane or whatever it was evaporated then put in the daylight or already processed oil? Wondering if my trim will always give a green tinge I will have to make a solid game plan to try to get rid of that color.
Guzias1:
[I think a few - 6 hours in the sun will help..
I usually have my indoor lights on it.
That's a fat tube. Sooo much butane. Can we see muffin?do you go full muffin? /QUOTE]
Ya I read that UV lights work too but unfortunately I don't have any of that set up where I'm doing the oil. Might have to set one up just for this reason though.
Yes I'll take a pic of the muffin but I'm still lightly heat purging it on the skillet so the muffin ain't too huge in the chamber. Well that's the idea anyway. I tried it the other day and the muffin was still gigantic!
SaybianTv:I'm close to Vancouver. Suburb. I go into downtown pretty regularly. Might have to cross paths one day and trade some goodies.
SaybianTv
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green spectrum from 45 degree's red spectrum from vertical. Is this the final in the pan? I've had it cook to brown on me during the bad ol days where blacker was better than greener. But i've also grammed out everything and found the green hue turn organge, maybe it's my clear containers. You don't have a shop lamp or something you can put one of the uv bulbs from home depot in? I think i stuck a nail in the wall hung some string and got busy.
I do the uv treatment when the oil is dissolved in ethanol, light's not going anywhere to do any work for ya if it's in globs.
I do the uv treatment when the oil is dissolved in ethanol, light's not going anywhere to do any work for ya if it's in globs.
Oil looked pretty dark when I scraped it up off the pirex:
Didn't know what to expect from this muffin so I lined the shit out of the chamber with P paper:
Didn't muffin up too much at all thanks to the pre (light) heat purge on the skillet:
Muffin falling after only one full pull on the vac (poor picture quality through the vac lid):
Fallen muffin. Time for fold up:
Folded up at 65F:
Time to experiment with a silicone muffin mold:
Folded up oil in the muffin mold then in ramekin:
In the vac chamber and warmed to 85F. Sitting on stoneware:
Nice little muffin:
Muffin collapsed at only 20Hg. Good sign? Not a lot of tane left in it?
Folded it back down and turned temp up a bit after that last picture. Gonna let it settle at 100F then full vac till shatter then turn up temp till waxes. Hopefully it loses some of the darker colors..
Didn't know what to expect from this muffin so I lined the shit out of the chamber with P paper:
Didn't muffin up too much at all thanks to the pre (light) heat purge on the skillet:
Muffin falling after only one full pull on the vac (poor picture quality through the vac lid):
Fallen muffin. Time for fold up:
Folded up at 65F:
Time to experiment with a silicone muffin mold:
Folded up oil in the muffin mold then in ramekin:
In the vac chamber and warmed to 85F. Sitting on stoneware:
Nice little muffin:
Muffin collapsed at only 20Hg. Good sign? Not a lot of tane left in it?
Folded it back down and turned temp up a bit after that last picture. Gonna let it settle at 100F then full vac till shatter then turn up temp till waxes. Hopefully it loses some of the darker colors..
knucklehead bob
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Pardon me ladies and gents , I have only skipped through every 10th page or so . Does any one extract directly into a bowl of warm water ? Less time for boil off and a lot less scraping . 
Guzias1
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Hi Knuckle Bob. Yes! I have successfully sprayed into wan water. You can really see the butane escape well. And collect fairly very easy from top of water.
I did this once. Made wax! But tasted awful. I blame the tap water I used.
I'm still looking into this
And bc. Liking your experiments!
If it don't with the first time, tweak it. But don't give up!
I'm waximg something right now. My temps seem all over the place. 110- 130. Can't stay home to monitor it. This sucks
but it looks like it's going
I did this once. Made wax! But tasted awful. I blame the tap water I used.
I'm still looking into this
And bc. Liking your experiments!
If it don't with the first time, tweak it. But don't give up!
I'm waximg something right now. My temps seem all over the place. 110- 130. Can't stay home to monitor it. This sucks
but it looks like it's going