Behold, Clinton pandering reaches new lows

7xstall

Well-Known Member
We need to be out of Iraq, there is no winning there.
Please define a Victory over there.
If you think that you will get an unconditional surrender, well you got another think coming. That won't happen, Arabs don't work like that. Go read your history books.

ok, in your world there is no losing either then...so yeah, we should let the Iraqis experience this "pergutory" condition of neither win or loss... :confused:
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
No there is no wining... You may have a partial victory, but there will be no total victory.


But please define victory 7x, it's not possible to have a clear defined victory like we had in WWII, it's just not that kind of war.
There will be no treaties signed, there will be no armistice…..

victory
n : a successful ending of a struggle or contest; "the general
always gets credit for his army's victory"; "the
agreement was a triumph for common sense" [syn: triumph]
[ant: defeat]

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

Victory \Vic"to*ry\, n.; pl. Victories. [OE. victorie, OF.
victorie, victoire, F. victoire, L. victoria. See Victor.]
The defeat of an enemy in battle, or of an antagonist in any
contest; a gaining of the superiority in any struggle or
competition; conquest; triumph; -- the opposite of defeat.

Death is swallowed up in victory. --1 Cor. xv.


The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. — Joseph Joubert (1754-1824).
 

Indie

Well-Known Member
How about putting a bumper sticker on your car that reads: \"Save The Baby Humans.\" Are you enlightned enough to do that....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Excellent Point!!! Vi, this is a very good example of the hypocrisy on the left. Kill the unborn......but save the criminals and murderers. It\'s a disease...liberalism.
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Yeah, yeah ... if it has a face, don't eat it.

How about putting a bumper sticker on your car that reads: "Save The Baby Humans." Are you enlightned enough to do that, GK??

Vi

what?

I am very capable of applying stickers... since a young age I was always fasinated by stickers.. especially how THEY DONT stcik to the special paper that ONE pulls off in order to stick the sticker... I always thought that was cool...

"Enlightened enough" - I don't know that that means... please explain...

Breast feeding is a fantastic way to give a baby a fighting chance in this world.. many studies have shown that babies that breast feed grow up to be healthier than non breast fed babies.. I support breast feeding and I dont have a problem with mothers breast feeding in public... nor do I have a problem with stickers.. I have a sticker on my car now.. it says "arms are for armwrestling"


does this answer your question?
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
How about putting a bumper sticker on your car that reads: \"Save The Baby Humans.\" Are you enlightned enough to do that....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Excellent Point!!! Vi, this is a very good example of the hypocrisy on the left. Kill the unborn......but save the criminals and murderers. It\'s a disease...liberalism.
OHHHHH.. is that what vi is trying to say.... LOL... vi, you need to spell things out for me.. I don't like to read into peoples thoughts...


I don't kill babies, nor do I kill animals... nor do I hate or have ill fellings for people that do kill babies or anilmals.. they need LOVE too! we all need to love each other...

I am not a big fan of bumperstickers that might offend other people or cause them stress..
 

ViRedd

New Member
*lol* ... Glad you caught the humor in my post, GK.

Winning = Etching the thought process into the minds of every last terrorist on the planet that flying planes into American buildings, bombing American trains, or bombing American possessions anywhere on earth is a definite, no win endeavor.

Vi
 

Indie

Well-Known Member
OHHHHH.. is that what vi is trying to say.... LOL... vi, you need to spell things out for me.. I don\'t like to read into peoples thoughts.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................NO!! that was me that said that...hence the !!! ,that means the end of a sentence. Kinda like a period. I would never want to put words or *Thoughts* into peoples minds. I am an advocate against that. I was simply making a statement, on my own. Make sure your facts are strait.............................................................................................................Indie.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
If we can just get the world free of all religion it would be a much more peaceful place to live in.Religion is the rules of all evil!!!
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
OHHHHH.. is that what vi is trying to say.... LOL... vi, you need to spell things out for me.. I don\'t like to read into peoples thoughts.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................NO!! that was me that said that...hence the !!! ,that means the end of a sentence. Kinda like a period. I would never want to put words or *Thoughts* into peoples minds. I am an advocate against that. I was simply making a statement, on my own. Make sure your facts are strait.............................................................................................................Indie.
ooooooooooooh... is that what you were saying... ok
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
*lol* ... Glad you caught the humor in my post, GK.

Winning = Etching the thought process into the minds of every last terrorist on the planet that flying planes into American buildings, bombing American trains, or bombing American possessions anywhere on earth is a definite, no win endeavor.

Vi
maybe attacking third world countries and pissing off million and billions of humans.. and turning them against the (concept of the) USA is exactly what the "terrorists" wanted... maybe "their" plan is working out exactly how they planned it... .. more people than ever are against the USA... maybe the USA is loosing...

is the USA real? is terrorism real? or are these just things that peole make up to make themselves feel real?
 

Indie

Well-Known Member
\"If your not with us.....then your against us.\" 777\'s are real. And the subhuman\'s that plan and execute the hyjacking\'s of them are dead men walking. Never bet against America, you will lose. Peace through superior firepower...................................................Indie.
 

Smirgen

Well-Known Member
If we can just get the world free of all religion it would be a much more peaceful place to live in.Religion is the rules of all evil!!!
If that were true there should be less violence today than there was back in the 30's 40's and 50's when Religion was an american staple but that certainly isnt the case.

People use the same rhetoric about firearms as well saying that if we ban all Firearms we wont have any more school shootings, the Ironic thing is Almost everybody had some kind of firearms back in the 40's and 50's, You could buy guns anywhere (gas stations,mail order catalogs,department stores) and you didnt have to register them and yet there werent any school shootings back in those days..
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
Vi has it right.....ALL of our self avowed enemies need to KNOW that there is a chance that THEY will be killed....right now it is a joke....we are not serious...

The more brutal and relentless our campaign to kill these bastards, the sooner there will be peace!
Simple! Victory!....
:peace:
:joint:
:blsmoke:
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
there doesn't have to be an old-fashioned, formalized surrender for us to win in Iraq. like i've said before, this is not about the US getting a point on the board or a notch in the belt, it's about the people of Iraq having a say in their day to day lives without being afraid.

the extremists are coming to realize that facing the US is like jumping in a meat grinder; for every 1 of our guys they lose several dozen. it is demoralizing them slowly, i just hope that our country can find the character and strength to continue for just a little while longer.
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
If that were true there should be less violence today than there was back in the 30's 40's and 50's when Religion was an american staple but that certainly isnt the case.

People use the same rhetoric about firearms as well saying that if we ban all Firearms we wont have any more school shootings, the Ironic thing is Almost everybody had some kind of firearms back in the 40's and 50's, You could buy guns anywhere (gas stations,mail order catalogs,department stores) and you didnt have to register them and yet there werent any school shootings back in those days..
very true!

the problem more likely lies within those who believe that religion should be forced out of people. history has shown that religion is part of being human, plain and simple. we all have imaginations and as a result we all have faith in something, even if it's nothing.

when i was in high school i remember many of my friends had rifles in their trucks during deer season... no problems whatsoever. now it's a felony to have a pocket knife. :spew:
 

Kryztina

Well-Known Member
poor fuckers are so far brainwashed by 1 yr old the dont know what their doing is wrong...
unfortunatly these babies fight wars they didnt even start.(babies born into 'terorism'...)
its really hard to empithise (with terorist) though considering all the actions pulled so far...
just my brainfart...sorry if i hit any nerves
Cheers
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
poor fuckers are so far brainwashed by 1 yr old the dont know what their doing is wrong...
unfortunatly these babies fight wars they didnt even start.
its really hard to empithise though considering all the actions pulled so far...
just my brainfart...sorry if i hit any nerves
Cheers
you're talking about the US .. correct?
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor


The more brutal and relentless our campaign to kill these bastards, the sooner there will be peace!
Simple! Victory!....
:peace:
:joint:
:blsmoke:

ahahahahahah seriously... I BEG YOU.. I BEG you from both knees... just meditate on "kill these bastards, the sooner there will be peace!"...


killing does not bring peace... NEVER has NEVER will

iloveyou
 
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