Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

riddleme said:
drowning will not start untill after week 8 is over :) as for feeding, I am currently making it rain then add 1 gallon of water that has 1 teaspoon of the 20-10-20 then I wait a day and add another gallon of water mixed the same,,,this last feeding I added 2 tablespoons of a molasses tea (1 jar of grandma's to 1 quart of water) to the 2nd gallon
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So, for your next cycle will you be running 20-10-20 from beginning to end? I seem to remember you mentioning a mag deficiency some weeks back. Will yo be raising your dolomite amendment next time? Thanks for the details about the feeding.
 
I am truely very happy with the 20-10-20 but will most likely try my pick for flower nutes some time soon but with the next run most likely stick with the 20-10-20, the adding of mag was a preventative measure there was not an actual defeciency and I will be changing the medium mix a bit as I am thinking a 50/50 peat/clay mix might be more beneficial, gonna try it and see? so yes a bit more dolomite as the clay lowers ph over time by adding sulfer
 
They are drowning :hump:

last night I decided to try the pre-mature pull I did a week or so ago, they have been in the jar, they were responding nicely to the cure, the smell was getting better and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

All I can say is,,,,WELCOME THE FUCK BACK TILDERS !!!!!!!!!

awesome smoke, 1 hitta quitta no doubt, 2 hits put me right the fuck down

based on this and the fact that my breeding project was a success, (pulled 22 beans out of the popcorns I just put in the chamber) I have decided to start the drowning, will most likely harvest this weekend :)
 
riddleme said:
They are drowning :hump:

last night I decided to try the pre-mature pull I did a week or so ago, they have been in the jar, they were responding nicely to the cure, the smell was getting better and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

All I can say is,,,,WELCOME THE FUCK BACK TILDERS !!!!!!!!!

awesome smoke, 1 hitta quitta no doubt, 2 hits put me right the fuck down

based on this and the fact that my breeding project was a success, (pulled 22 beans out of the popcorns I just put in the chamber) I have decided to start the drowning, will most likely harvest this weekend :)
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Right on my friend. Sounds like things are right were ya wan't them to be. Did the pollenating thing to my P/R and Isis. Hope to get some beans myself with this round.

Peace

Big
 
Hey Riddleme ! Still following your teachings in the shadows keep up the good work . I think you found or refound mabey your calling . I'm slowly converting to your methods .One by your teachings and 2 by this was my original train of thought was to go soiless when I first started . I went with organics and am ready to be bug free now and in control of my nutrients now I got a good feel for reading my plants and have gotten my feet wet so to speak. I,m about to start vegging my 3rd grow , but I,m at the dilemma of finding a soiless mix without buying a whole bale of Sunshine or Promix .The only other options I see availible are Organicare Pure Earth Aeration formula or I think I can get Roots Organics soiless mix . Any suggestions for whats availible in our area? Another question I took clones off the plants I,m running now .I,m undecided because of lack of knowlage ,will a clone of a clone be as potent as the original clone? What are your views on clones of clones and potency . The strains are Pineapple Express and Purple FLo (GDPxFlo).


These are my current grow almost 4 weeks flowering .Plant pictured is Pineapple Express.

:clap: Thanks in advance !:clap:
:leaf: King :leaf:

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kingofqueen said:
Hey Riddleme ! Still following your teachings in the shadows keep up the good work . I think you found or refound mabey your calling . I'm slowly converting to your methods .One by your teachings and 2 by this was my original train of thought was to go soiless when I first started . I went with organics and am ready to be bug free now and in control of my nutrients now I got a good feel for reading my plants and have gotten my feet wet so to speak. I,m about to start vegging my 3rd grow , but I,m at the dilemma of finding a soiless mix without buying a whole bale of Sunshine or Promix .The only other options I see availible are Organicare Pure Earth Aeration formula or I think I can get Roots Organics soiless mix . Any suggestions for whats availible in our area?
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I am attempting using only light warrior by Fox Farms which is soiless and nute less with added perilite and lime...1 cubic foot bag....hope it helps

Namaste':leaf:
 
kingofqueen said:
Hey Riddleme ! Still following your teachings in the shadows keep up the good work . I think you found or refound mabey your calling . I'm slowly converting to your methods .One by your teachings and 2 by this was my original train of thought was to go soiless when I first started . I went with organics and am ready to be bug free now and in control of my nutrients now I got a good feel for reading my plants and have gotten my feet wet so to speak. I,m about to start vegging my 3rd grow , but I,m at the dilemma of finding a soiless mix without buying a whole bale of Sunshine or Promix .The only other options I see availible are Organicare Pure Earth Aeration formula or I think I can get Roots Organics soiless mix . Any suggestions for whats availible in our area? Another question I took clones off the plants I,m running now .I,m undecided because of lack of knowlage ,will a clone of a clone be as potent as the original clone? What are your views on clones of clones and potency . The strains are Pineapple Express and Purple FLo (GDPxFlo).


These are my current grow almost 4 weeks flowering .Plant pictured is Pineapple Express.

:clap: Thanks in advance !:clap:
:leaf: King :leaf:
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I would just buy the bale? yeah it's like 4 big bags but only $38 so less than $10 a bag, I'll be needin more in about 2 or 3 weeks I guess we could split one?

and properly grown a clone will be the exact same plant with the same potency
 
riddleme said:
I would just buy the bale? yeah it's like 4 big bags but only $38 so less than $10 a bag, I'll be needin more in about 2 or 3 weeks I guess we could split one?

and properly grown a clone will be the exact same plant with the same potency
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For what it is worth as I cannot recall where I read it:wall: But after 5-6 cloning generations some genetic deterioration occurs...

Namaste':leaf:
 
Illumination said:
For what it is worth as I cannot recall where I read it:wall: But after 5-6 cloning generations some genetic deterioration occurs...

Namaste':leaf:
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I have read that it does not diminish until after 100 generations, but have no actual experience to back it up, in the end it is why folks keep mom plants :)
 
I believe the genetic deterioration is due more to stress. If a plant lives a very comfortable and non-stressful life, it should put out good clones for a long time.
 
Thanks for all the replys. Not quite sure where I,ll be on on soil in 2 or 3 weeks ,Thank You very much for the offer Riddleme ! All these questions are spurring because I took clones off my plants. So they are around 4 weeks into flowering .And then I have the 4 clones I took.
I,m wandering if I could mother 2 of them and keep cloning off them .I'd like to keep the Pineapple Express going but dont want to waste my time if this is something that shouldnt be done. I like how strong and vigorous the PE is. They are still in solo cups with Happy frog.I'll probaly pick up some of the Organicare soiless to veg them in . Then later down the road when I,m doing better I,ll start buying bales.I was just wandering if anybody knew of a shop with a good soiless mix in smaller amounts.
 
kingofqueen said:
Thanks for all the replys. Not quite sure where I,ll be on on soil in 2 or 3 weeks ,Thank You very much for the offer Riddleme ! All these questions are spurring because I took clones off my plants. So they are around 4 weeks into flowering .And then I have the 4 clones I took.
I,m wandering if I could mother 2 of them and keep cloning off them .I'd like to keep the Pineapple Express going but dont want to waste my time if this is something that shouldnt be done. I like how strong and vigorous the PE is. They are still in solo cups with Happy frog.I'll probaly pick up some of the Organicare soiless to veg them in . Then later down the road when I,m doing better I,ll start buying bales.I was just wandering if anybody knew of a shop with a good soiless mix in smaller amounts.
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Paulinos has a sunshine mix in bags (small) but not #4 (not sure which one it is)
and yes you can turn a clone into a mom to keep a strain going
 
a clone should not deteriorate theoretically. you are taking a part of that plants genetic code, something that cannot me changed unless by mutation caused by stressed. and then, it still would have the same characteristics as its donor.
 
Hey Riddle!!

Just tried your pixie dust for the first time! Bought the coffee grinder from wal-mart and it worked marvelously, trichomes just stuck to the lid and we scraped a bowl up. Three or four hits and I was baked, a normal bowl of this doesn't normally do that to me. Great tip man, thanks!

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