Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

jsgamber

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Hey Integra,

Thought you'd be interested in the status of my cabinet build and grow since you are a big influence. Both are listed in my sig. I'm getting really close to grow time! :blsmoke: Hopefully I'll have some clones basking away by this weekend!

jg
 

DST

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Well Integra, for all your troubles, (which I hope are all past you now) those ladies look damn fine. 2 weeks eh...counting down time is always a good time. Big positive vibes heading your way bru.

Peace, DST
 

Integra21

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Hey Integra,

Thought you'd be interested in the status of my cabinet build and grow since you are a big influence. Both are listed in my sig. I'm getting really close to grow time! :blsmoke: Hopefully I'll have some clones basking away by this weekend!

jg
Looking good. I swung by and said a few words.
Well Integra, for all your troubles, (which I hope are all past you now) those ladies look damn fine. 2 weeks eh...counting down time is always a good time. Big positive vibes heading your way bru.

Peace, DST
Thanks dst. I appreciate to good vibes. I'm working on putting up some pics right now. Update is late but will be up in a little bit. I have been real busy the last couple of days helping my buddy out with his harvest. Got a chance to see what happens when you dot put much effort into working your plants into the screen. I had never seen so much popcorn and fluff on a plant in my life. Even with that going against his first run, the herb is still killer and he should have some decent weight. Here's a shot of one of the fluffy buds we quick dried in my dehydrator to sample while the rest was drying.
 

Integra21

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ok. Time for a big bud porn update. All the readers are up to date on the problems I have expierienced over the last couple of weeks. But with everything going on, a new problem created by an old problem surfaced without me noticing. When the CO2 generator stopped working I had so many thing happening at once, that I didnt take into account that plants need more food with high co2, and that the food should be backed off if the co2 was removed. So I burnt all of my plants a little since I was testing the max amount of food these girls could handle and then had the co2 crap out. I forgot to dilute the food initially. The food is now dialed in and the burn has stopped, but the damage has been done. Just makes me sad to see my girls that were on the verge of perfection reduced to what they look like now. That being said, it is also late into flower and some of the leaves are naturally yellowing. With all that being said, just dont be disappointed when they dont look as good as the did nin the past, but they still look great. So on with the update....

Blue Kush Day 51
Rm Temp 78F
RH 55%
CO2 ppm 400
Res Temp 71F
PH 5.99
PPM 800






















And Here's the Blue Kush(x5)White Widow(x1) at day 41







Even with all that I found time to order 6 new strains. They are all from Sannie's shop. I am real excited to get thes germed and growing. Here's the list with thinks for those who are interested

KO Kush
http://www.sanniesshop.com/ko-kush-f3.html?currency=usd

Madonna
http://www.sanniesshop.com/madonna.html?currency=usd

Kolossus
http://www.sanniesshop.com/kolossus-en.html?currency=usd

Hericules(Fem)
http://www.sanniesshop.com/hericules-en.html

Cheeseberry Haze
http://www.sanniesshop.com/cheeseberry-haze-en.html?currency=usd

Cheeseberry
http://www.sanniesshop.com/cheeseberry-en.html

I wont be popping them all at once, but rather a few at a time to find a suitable other for each strain. Thanks for stopping in, and I'll give a report on Sannie and his strains once I get them and get them going.
 

FuZZyBUDz

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:oWOW:shock: just WOW. wen i first opened this thread in the beggining, i did NOT think u would pull such a crop! i might have to try a SCNog grow?:clap:
 

Integra21

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:oWOW:shock: just WOW. wen i first opened this thread in the beggining, i did NOT think u would pull such a crop! i might have to try a SCNog grow?:clap:
Yeah, I really cant wait to see what weight I get this round, there are some really fat buds in there. Pics dont really do them justice. I know Im gonna beat my buddys weight even though it isnt dry yet just off of how his girls looked compared to mine. Scrogs are nice. They're cheap to do, anly require a few extra minutes of work every couple of days(which stops after 3-4 weeks) and the yeilds usually speak for themselves. You go that route and need any help, feel free to ask.
 

cazador

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Integra,
I'm going SCROG :) Dropped the screen, and flipped the lights. Now time to bend under the screen for 2-3 weeks? When do you decide to stop pulling under the screen. Do you have a pattern you use or just start to bend to an available spot in the screen?
Thanks
 

Bob Smith

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Still looking good, Integra.

A little tip burn isn't gonna materially affect your weight/quality - BTW, what was the TDS reading when they burned?

It was 925 in your last update (that I see), but is that really what they burned at? And what conversion are you using? Guessing .5........
 

Integra21

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Integra,
I'm going SCROG :) Dropped the screen, and flipped the lights. Now time to bend under the screen for 2-3 weeks? When do you decide to stop pulling under the screen. Do you have a pattern you use or just start to bend to an available spot in the screen?
Thanks
sweet. How many and what size plants are they and how big is your screen? if you're using decent sized clones(12-20")you usually only have to rework the branches for 2-3 weeks but if you're using small clones(6-10") it can be up to 4 weeks. I dot have a particular pattern, but more of an idea of where I want each plant to fill out. Your end goal is to keep it fairly level and evenly spaced. And once the stretch has almost stopped then I let them grow a little verticle. But as long as you keep it mostly even it will do the rest of the work for you. If some branches are getting taller than the rest with nowhere to go, just try to have them at the edge of the screen. Any other questions, feel free to ask. It might seem difficult, but once you get a week into it, you realize how easy it really is.
Still looking good, Integra.

A little tip burn isn't gonna materially affect your weight/quality - BTW, what was the TDS reading when they burned?

It was 925 in your last update (that I see), but is that really what they burned at? And what conversion are you using? Guessing .5........
Believe it or not, yeah, thats where they burned. With the co2 I was keeping them at 950-975ppm. I had diluted it slightly to about 915 and couldnt check on them the nex day, when I got in there later that night, the ppms had clibed back up to about 950ppm and all of the plants were slightly burned as you could see in the pics. The sweet spot right now is right around 800ppm. Im actually not sure the conversion I am using. I might have to check it out. But whatever its set at, it matches my food mixing chart from technaflora spot on.
 

cazador

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sweet. How many and what size plants are they and how big is your screen? if you're using decent sized clones(12-20")you usually only have to rework the branches for 2-3 weeks but if you're using small clones(6-10") it can be up to 4 weeks. I dot have a particular pattern, but more of an idea of where I want each plant to fill out. Your end goal is to keep it fairly level and evenly spaced. And once the stretch has almost stopped then I let them grow a little verticle. But as long as you keep it mostly even it will do the rest of the work for you. If some branches are getting taller than the rest with nowhere to go, just try to have them at the edge of the screen. Any other questions, feel free to ask. It might seem difficult, but once you get a week into it, you realize how easy it really is.
I have two 4'x'4' trays one with 4 and the other with 5 plants. the screen is about 23" off the table and about 13" above the plants. The plants are older clones that have started the bending process, so we'll see how it goes. the screen looks empty now but I know what can/will happen soon. Thanks for the input. They look a bit sad now that I've bent them over but looking at how nice yours look latter on I'm not worried.
the two plants by the plug in the wall (agent orange) fooled me last time. Looks so small and harmless now, It will take over the room with branches and huge buds. Never saw it coming. Was looking forward to trying her outdoors. It's still early so thought I would see how see dose under the screen. Probably only need one or two but what the hell.


 

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Integra21

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I have two 4'x'4' trays one with 4 and the other with 5 plants. the screen is about 23" off the table and about 13" above the plants. The plants are older clones that have started the bending process, so we'll see how it goes. the screen looks empty now but I know what can/will happen soon. Thanks for the input. They look a bit sad now that I've bent them over but looking at how nice yours look latter on I'm not worried.
the two plants by the plug in the wall (agent orange) fooled me last time. Looks so small and harmless now, It will take over the room with branches and huge buds. Never saw it coming. Was looking forward to trying her outdoors. It's still early so thought I would see how see dose under the screen. Probably only need one or two but what the hell.


Looking good. Good thing you flipped the light, any bigger and those girls would have been too big. I bet thats going to fill out nicely. You may have to put some weight on top of the screen, if its unanchored I have had my plants lift one side by inches. Not lets see your canopy of colas grow in.
 

cazador

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Looking good. Good thing you flipped the light, any bigger and those girls would have been too big. I bet thats going to fill out nicely. You may have to put some weight on top of the screen, if its unanchored I have had my plants lift one side by inches. Not lets see your canopy of colas grow in.
Thanks for the feedback:bigjoint:. Yea, I waited to long last time wanting to tweak the room a bit before flipping the lights. Last run was crazy, branches everywhere and had to remove one of the stands and move the girls to the floor for room(got great yields!). Not using CO2 this go. Hope I'm closer to the target height for this method and round, we'll see.
You got me worried now, saying it's a "good thing you flipped the light". I have some more room in there and resisted putting more plants in there for now. I'll wait the two-three weeks to see what happens then if room allows I'll add another plant and screen. I'm restricted to 12 mature plants, I've been growing 9 and doing well so far. I'll go weight the screen! Thanks again.:leaf:
 

jsgamber

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Integra, your ladies look so yummy. So in your honor, one of my grow strains will be White Widow. I've been smoking the sweetest WW from my dispensary for the last 3 days. I have to see these ladies in my cabinet cause they look amazing! :bigjoint: Wake 'n Bake!
 

BooMeR242

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dunno how i never had a chance to come check ur thread brotha but i gopt a lot of readin to catchup on. i checked the first page and looked great. very clean and organized. but hope u dont mind me picking ur mind as i get my room rollin for the scrog. rep for the setup and great grow
 

Integra21

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Thanks for the feedback:bigjoint:. Yea, I waited to long last time wanting to tweak the room a bit before flipping the lights. Last run was crazy, branches everywhere and had to remove one of the stands and move the girls to the floor for room(got great yields!). Not using CO2 this go. Hope I'm closer to the target height for this method and round, we'll see.
You got me worried now, saying it's a "good thing you flipped the light". I have some more room in there and resisted putting more plants in there for now. I'll wait the two-three weeks to see what happens then if room allows I'll add another plant and screen. I'm restricted to 12 mature plants, I've been growing 9 and doing well so far. I'll go weight the screen! Thanks again.:leaf:
Your welcome. Im sue what you have will be plenty, but you'll see soon enough. And 12 plants is plenty. I'll be swing by to see how yours are doin, and I hope you find this method of growing as enjoyable as I do
Integra, your ladies look so yummy. So in your honor, one of my grow strains will be White Widow. I've been smoking the sweetest WW from my dispensary for the last 3 days. I have to see these ladies in my cabinet cause they look amazing! :bigjoint: Wake 'n Bake!
Sweet. Widow never seems to be a disappointment. Just be ready for the long flower times. Widow seems to be a strain to really let them go as longs as they want. Mine went for 12 weeks, but well worth it.
dunno how i never had a chance to come check ur thread brotha but i gopt a lot of readin to catchup on. i checked the first page and looked great. very clean and organized. but hope u dont mind me picking ur mind as i get my room rollin for the scrog. rep for the setup and great grow
Thanks for stopping in boomer. Theres a lot on the first few pages but thats all my first grow. The good stuff is in the last 10 pages, after I did my upgrade. But if you manage to make it through the hole thing, you'll see lots of wonderful buds, quite a bit of info on scrogs, and how good and bad things can go. And if any questions need answers, I always to to do my best to fill in the blanks. So dont be hasitant.
 

Polecat

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You def. got it going on. I will probaly be calling on your help in the next few weeks.
Got my DIY reflector made. Made plans to switch fridge with my cousin tonight.
I have already made a small seedling/cloning chamber and a getto dwc. Just for practice using bag seed.
started 4 clones off a plant i planted on super bowl sunday. It has out grown my under lit chamber.
making sure clones root before i destroy.
i will be posting pics soon was going to be today but the camera batts are dead.


Your girls are what I am dreming about from now on.
 

Integra21

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Sounds like you are getting it all figured out. Always happy to help with questions, so when you're ready, fire away.
 
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