Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

Integra21

Integra21

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FuZZyBUDz said:
almost looks like a web of weed! lol, im gunna scrog soon tooo, u make me

want to integra. btw is ur name integra bcuz ur car?? if so wat ur run??

type-s??bongsmilie
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I have enjoyed the Scrog since I put my first plant in one. You just get such nice uniform buds and great output. I feel that anyone who isnt doing vertical should give a scrog a try. Looking forward to seeing yours. If you have any questions about setting one up or how to work them into the screen, feel free to ask. and my name is from my car. I have a 96 Integra gs that I dropped a jdm H22a out of a Prelude Type-s in. Lots of bolt-ons Running a 100 shot sprat on a Zex kit. I am currently working on pulling the motor back out and doing a low compression rebuild because I want to turbo it. End goal is to try and get it under 12 sec and still have it drive decent on the street. Hoping 17lbs of boost will take care of that.
 
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Integra21 said:
I have enjoyed the Scrog since I put my first plant in one. You just get such nice uniform buds and great output. I feel that anyone who isnt doing vertical should give a scrog a try. Looking forward to seeing yours. If you have any questions about setting one up or how to work them into the screen, feel free to ask. and my name is from my car. I have a 96 Integra gs that I dropped a jdm H22a out of a Prelude Type-s in. Lots of bolt-ons Running a 100 shot sprat on a Zex kit. I am currently working on pulling the motor back out and doing a low compression rebuild because I want to turbo it. End goal is to try and get it under 12 sec and still have it drive decent on the street. Hoping 17lbs of boost will take care of that.
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DAMN! 17 is st8! u know how much ur pushing to the wheels right now? i used to have a volvo 940 turbo that i the ports polished, chipped, cold air, dropped a garrett T4 and a decent blow-off valve from DC, made an exhaust and got the flat top pistins in it, that one was tough fit! but i ended up gettin 357 hp and 412 torque. it was so much fun in the dirt! man i miss that fuckin car:sad: blow the turbo out after a while, lol. looked just like ur grandma car too, it was my sleeper.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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FuZZyBUDz said:
DAMN! 17 is st8! u know how much ur pushing to the wheels right now? i used to have a volvo 940 turbo that i the ports polished, chipped, cold air, dropped a garrett T4 and a decent blow-off valve from DC, made an exhaust and got the flat top pistins in it, that one was tough fit! but i ended up gettin 357 hp and 412 torque. it was so much fun in the dirt! man i miss that fuckin car:sad: blow the turbo out after a while, lol. looked just like ur grandma car too, it was my sleeper.
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Right now about 235 at the wheels and about 275 with the spray. I like mine to be steathy too. Just have some nice rims and a muffler. Thats all you can see. Then kids pull up in their civics and what not and think they might have a chance. The two best cars I ever bear were an early 90's mustang GT and a new WRX STI. Both seemed mostly stock, but the drivers sure seems pissed to be crossing the lne .5 of a sec slower than a Honda.
 
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Another Update on the friends flower room. Nice to be able to post some porn again. This is the same Blue Kush as mine, just doesnt have the CO2 yet and is under a Hornilux Enhanced spectrum bulb. They are currently 6 weeks into flower.











 
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blueberry INDICA

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hey wanting to do a scrog was wonder when do you hit them with 12/12 as soon as all your holes are filled ?????...Also whehat is the best height to start my screen going with mainly indica strains for a better yeild my opinion lol but was just curious huge fan of your grow really sick mann and REAL nice room as well hope to here fron ya....... PEACE!!!!
 
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nice set up i was just wondering when i seen your wire mesh it made me think why don't you maximize your growing area and use the walls too basically same setup but just on the wall with a drip system to feed it just an idea like i said be nice set up anyways just wondering what you used on the walls Mylar or vapor barrier paper
 
Integra21

Integra21

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blueberry INDICA said:
hey wanting to do a scrog was wonder when do you hit them with 12/12 as soon as all your holes are filled ?????...Also whehat is the best height to start my screen going with mainly indica strains for a better yeild my opinion lol but was just curious huge fan of your grow really sick mann and REAL nice room as well hope to here fron ya....... PEACE!!!!
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It varies greatly, but is based on the size&number of plants and the size of your screen. I have basically 2 3'x4' screens. One was filled out with 3 larger clones(18") and has done very well and the other with 6 small clones(6-8"). But from what you have sai, I would try out 6 medium clones(12") and see how much they stretch. Glad you liked it, and with more info, I could answer your question better.
 
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Blue Kush Day 28

















And here's the other side. They are at 18 days flower and doing well. You can see the widow closeups in the last couple of pics and its clear she wants a little more food than the rest. Cant wait for 3 weeks from now when the whole screen is filled out and in full bloom.




 
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Bob Smith

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cazador said:
Sounds like a good plan either way:lol:. Always fun to play around, you never know what might come of it. I've seen some pretty excellent home crossed varieties before.

It's getting close. :leaf: Rookie mistake,:dunce: while waiting to get things ready I let the ladies get a little out of hand:leaf::leaf::leaf:. now I'm paying for it.:wall: I knew better too (I'm not a rookie). I asked but they didn't listen.:cuss: Oh well. I was going to do a sever cut back, then I was going to SCROG them, then I... just flipped the lights 12/12. said what the hell, how bad can it be. I guess my having grown outside for a while now and not having grown indoors for about 4years will be my excuse for this dilemma. I have about 3 weeks left and they have so much weight and the branches so long that I'm now running lines up to the ceiling to support stuff. I think it's to crazy to drop a screen over them now? Although I am thinking about it. Or tomato cages. shit with all those lines running to the ceiling... I'm painting myself into a corner:wall:. Other than that WOW it's great. Frosty as hell and it happens so fast indoors I totally forgot. Flipped the lights and two weeks later the show begins. I am doing this for family members with medical needs but personally I find this such a great hobby:lol:

after thought. I know everything is for a reason so in retrospect I have noticed, while I don't recommend letting them get as large as I did, and I'm NOT going to do it again. I have noticed the buds are much larger in length and weight than if I had kept them smaller. I just have to keep them happy for 3 more weeks and then the work starts (trimming & curing).

I even let this reply get to long... hum...I'll have to bongsmilie think this one over.

:peace:
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Lol..........damn Caz, you didn't take down notes when I had my height issues? :wall:

That shit sucks, doesn't it?

Anyways, just got caught up Integra - although you lost me when talking about your car (although I take it it's fast :confused:), your grow is looking marvelous - shooting for a pound under each 600, I take it?
 
Integra21

Integra21

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Bob Smith said:
Lol..........damn Caz, you didn't take down notes when I had my height issues? :wall:

That shit sucks, doesn't it?

Anyways, just got caught up Integra - although you lost me when talking about your car (although I take it it's fast :confused:), your grow is looking marvelous - shooting for a pound under each 600, I take it?
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My dream weight is 18oz's a light but I would be content with 12-14oz's. Only time will tell. Tey are coming along nicely though, so I am kina expecting something decent. Glad you stopeed in, hows the poker been going?
 
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Bob Smith

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Integra21 said:
My dream weight is 18oz's a light but I would be content with 12-14oz's. Only time will tell. Tey are coming along nicely though, so I am kina expecting something decent. Glad you stopeed in, hows the poker been going?
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Haven't been playing a whole lot, and when I do, it's "meh".

Been studying and looking for a job, and just got back from a week in Europe.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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Bob Smith said:
Haven't been playing a whole lot, and when I do, it's "meh".

Been studying and looking for a job, and just got back from a week in Europe.
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Hope you had fun. And its not really a bad thing to be taking a break from the poker. I forgot to say this, but here's a little more info on my c02. The generator itself works well except for the condensation problem. And it runs all day during lights on, usually never shuts off, but even running that much, the propane lasted for a day short of 3 weeks. So it definetly works better than my old bottle setup. Thought you'd want to know.
 
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Bob Smith

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Integra21 said:
Hope you had fun. And its not really a bad thing to be taking a break from the poker. I forgot to say this, but here's a little more info on my c02. The generator itself works well except for the condensation problem. And it runs all day during lights on, usually never shuts off, but even running that much, the propane lasted for a day short of 3 weeks. So it definetly works better than my old bottle setup. Thought you'd want to know.
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Any idea how much water it burns through in a day/week/month timeframe?

Also, what is the cubic footage of your grow space?

And what size was the tank? A 20# propane tank?
 
Integra21

Integra21

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Bob Smith said:
Any idea how much water it burns through in a day/week/month timeframe?

Also, what is the cubic footage of your grow space?

And what size was the tank? A 20# propane tank?
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Water im not sure on yet. But if your running drain to waste, the smallest trickle you can get out of it keeps it plenty cold, thats how I have mine setup. Plan on going to a res with a chiller down the road.

my room is about 250cuft and it was a standard 20lb tank from the gas station.
 
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Integra21 said:
Water im not sure on yet. But if your running drain to waste, the smallest trickle you can get out of it keeps it plenty cold, thats how I have mine setup. Plan on going to a res with a chiller down the road.

my room is about 250cuft and it was a standard 20lb tank from the gas station.
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Gracias; really need to figure out somehow to get a drain in my garage, but I'm not sure that's a possibility.

Draining to waste to cool would be the shit; water's cheap as balls.

EDIT: Integra, what size chiller were you thinking of for your Mini? Also, along those same cooling lines, what is the BTU of your portable AC, and how well would you say it worked? I do believe I've found a way to cool my garage without getting a mini-split, so I'm pretty stoked on that............now I'm not gonna need to tear down my op for a month+ while getting all the upgrades done, as I'm gonna do them all myself.

Figure a 14K BTU portable AC and a 1/2 HP chiller with some iceboxes and a HydroGen should be good to chill a 15x10 insulated room with ~2500 watts running, even in the dead of summer.
 
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Bob Smith said:
Gracias; really need to figure out somehow to get a drain in my garage, but I'm not sure that's a possibility.

Draining to waste to cool would be the shit; water's cheap as balls.

EDIT: Integra, what size chiller were you thinking of for your Mini? Also, along those same cooling lines, what is the BTU of your portable AC, and how well would you say it worked? I do believe I've found a way to cool my garage without getting a mini-split, so I'm pretty stoked on that............now I'm not gonna need to tear down my op for a month+ while getting all the upgrades done, as I'm gonna do them all myself.

Figure a 14K BTU portable AC and a 1/2 HP chiller with some iceboxes and a HydroGen should be good to chill a 15x10 insulated room with ~2500 watts running, even in the dead of summer.
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Bob - I don't mean to come off sounding like a tree hugger or offending anyone but it hurts to hear so many people think of water in the terms of "cheap" and to not give it the respect it deserves. I do hear your plan is to use a chiller so this may not apply to you directly just wish more people would treat clean water with reverence. It is (should be) after all one of the most treasured substance on the planet and we are blessed to have so much, but it is changing FAST. This is for anyone reading, "Please thank your water."
http://www.internationalwaterforlifefoundation.org/index.html

Sorry if this was a rant. I haven't had my meds as of yet and my mind is in overdrive. Off to get medicated.....
 
shnkrmn

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The waste water from my RO unit torments me, dude. I wish there was some use for it.

:mrgreen:

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Bob - I don't mean to come off sounding like a tree hugger or offending anyone but it hurts to hear so many people think of water in the terms of "cheap" and to not give it the respect it deserves. I do hear your plan is to use a chiller so this may not apply to you directly just wish more people would treat clean water with reverence. It is (should be) after all one of the most treasured substance on the planet and we are blessed to have so much, but it is changing FAST. This is for anyone reading, "Please thank your water."
http://www.internationalwaterforlifefoundation.org/index.html

Sorry if this was a rant. I haven't had my meds as of yet and my mind is in overdrive. Off to get medicated.....
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Bob Smith

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cazador said:
Bob - I don't mean to come off sounding like a tree hugger or offending anyone but it hurts to hear so many people think of water in the terms of "cheap" and to not give it the respect it deserves. I do hear your plan is to use a chiller so this may not apply to you directly just wish more people would treat clean water with reverence. It is (should be) after all one of the most treasured substance on the planet and we are blessed to have so much, but it is changing FAST. This is for anyone reading, "Please thank your water."
http://www.internationalwaterforlifefoundation.org/index.html

Sorry if this was a rant. I haven't had my meds as of yet and my mind is in overdrive. Off to get medicated.....
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No worries, my friend :lol:

I'm certainly no environmentalist, but I try not to be wasteful with things, either (if I can help it) - was referencing water as cheap because it costs less (straight $) to cool a room with tap water than it does with electricity (by a lot).
 
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