AutoFlower Compared to Regular

ok if i get slammed for this i diserve it lol, but after reading several posts it seems to me that my impressions of auto flower are wrong,

Please correct me where i am wrong, but in terms of yield (yes i know this is strain dependent) but in general regualar (photo- induced flowering) will always defeat auto-flower, secondly you cannot make suitable mothers out of auto-flowered cannabis because their is no way to keep them in a sustained vegetative state for long periods of time, also if you can are they not much harder to clone? if im wrong on all accounts then why do production growers seem to favor photo induced varieties? is it because they heavy yield varieties are photo induced, or is it a quality issue meaning auto flowers can not match the potentcy of photo- induced varieties? is it because its more difficult to weed out males in time?

simply put why do production grows seem to favor the photo induced varieties, maybe they dont but that is perception to me.

I am deeply confused on this matter after seeing more than few people claiming nice yields of of auto- varities

auto flowers are not top shelf quality. If there is a top shelf auto, I would like to see it.

fair enough but is that the only reason?

Afghan kush ryder is a top shelf quality strain. The yield is not too great but for potency its high grade with an average of 22% d9 thc

You can only grow them from seed, you cant clone them. They also dont yield very much. And for that "22%" AKR, I have never smoked AKR i have only seen journals on it. I would bet anything that it isnt 22% average, autos have to be crossed with a ruderalis(ruderalis usually has 1%-2% thc) just so they can auto flower.

Oh yeah btw, if you do a big sog of them im sure u can get a decent yield or if u have a bunch of them outdoors. People dont do this because cloning is so much easier and when u clone your canopy is much more even. Also, if you wanted to sog 30 plants you would have to buy 30 of those seeds. Not to mention your smoke wont be as good.

Well i live in a mmj state and have smoked for 40 years. Auto's can definatly be top shelf. I can usually have 2 grows done before one photo crop finishs.most ppl dont grow autos under the right lighting regime or in pots to small. Afgan kush is actually a very good yielding strain. Most autos grown right will produce 2-4 ounces per plant.

This is the type of shit that aggravates the shit right out of me. Photo periods will give you a more potent smoke. They will not yield any more than an auto flower. Auto flowers production over a given TIME FRAME, is far far greater than photo period plants. (You can grow more auto, in the same time you grew your photo)

Potency does differ between photo and auto strains. But this difference is minimal. There are a FEW very potent photo strains, bringing in and claiming 19 - 23% THC with the majority of plants claiming a 9 - 15%.
Most Auto flowers come in around 9 - 14% THC pretty much the same as alot of the best strains on the market(Haze, Kush, Pineapple (19%))

so a 4% difference.......

Now what you DO get with auto flowers is this....

High Levels of CBD (Relaxation, Pain reduction, Medicinal)
Amazing resilience to Fungus, Bugs, and weather (Thanks to the rugged ruderalis genetic pack)
Unmatched production speed (Will beat photo period plants in time frame production)

I agree "top shelf" can be had with AF strains. "Granted, top shelf is an opinion." If your simply comparing cannabinoids, take into consideration what capability we have as breeders. Before projects to create suitable/marketable ruderalis hybrids, it was silly to think we would be smoking hemp hybrids... Now they are wild fire.

Also take into consideration that most folks are simply unfamiliar with all the methods and strains that "production" growers use (a good piece of info most keep quiet about typically). I am familiar however, with suppliers who feed a healthy market with AF strains. I also know gorilla gardeners who take AF's into the bush of AK and come back 90 days later with full boats and plane loads. I would say sure there are better strains than ones that test out at 17 - 18% THC, but the CBD, CBDA, and THCv levels in some are what tickles my curiosity about these hybrids.

Hi Guys,

I feel like my comments are valid on the thread as i have experience with both.

I had 3 succesfull grows with Autos.. ive tried AutoAK, Afghan Kush Ryder, Pinapple express, sugar mango ryder and many many more.

on Average i was yielding 20grms per plant bone dry which i believe is actually good.

I was attracted to the autos as i was sold on the 60 days seed to harvest. my problem with autos wereyielod wasnt enough, THC value is nothing like a photo period and the buds themself tend to be a little looser and less compact.

Now im growing 3 plants all photo period. Blueberry Gum, PPP & white widow, these girls have such a stronger smell even at this stage 2 weeks before harvest. buds are very compact and are shining like a new penny.

Both Autos and Photo were grown in same tent with same 600w HPS

Any questions just ask.

Barneys Wife said:

Hi Guys,

I feel like my comments are valid on the thread as i have experience with both.

I had 3 succesfull grows with Autos.. ive tried AutoAK, Afghan Kush Ryder, Pinapple express, sugar mango ryder and many many more.

on Average i was yielding 20grms per plant bone dry which i believe is actually good.

I was attracted to the autos as i was sold on the 60 days seed to harvest. my problem with autos wereyielod wasnt enough, THC value is nothing like a photo period and the buds themself tend to be a little looser and less compact.

Now im growing 3 plants all photo period. Blueberry Gum, PPP & white widow, these girls have such a stronger smell even at this stage 2 weeks before harvest. buds are very compact and are shining like a new penny.

Both Autos and Photo were grown in same tent with same 600w HPS

Any questions just ask.

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Did you plant into your permanent container?
Did you use a 20 hour light cycle?
Did you top, fim, aggressivly prune or train?

Just out of curiosity, because 20G for a 600 sounds very very low

I think somethings wrong because i got 23g dry on a windowsill with 5h light per day and you got even bader result with 600w and 20h light on.I suggest you to get bigger containers and more agressive nutes

Nordic division said:

I think somethings wrong because i got 23g dry on a windowsill with 5h light per day and you got even bader result with 600w and 20h light on.I suggest you to get bigger containers and more agressive nutes

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wow your plant survived from window light?

Dank Hands said:

auto flowers are not top shelf quality. If there is a top shelf auto, I would like to see it.

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I beg to differ sir, while it doesn't yield as much end quality product is just as good sometimes better than regular, more energy and output into flowering than the vegging;to each their own though

And for the record I have experience with numerous autos
La diva-blueberryxak cross
Easy ryder which is ak47xlr2
diesel ryder
purple gems, the list goes on
All time favorite was the bubblegum auto we crossed with the bluestreak

You know while i havent any real experience with the autos im seeing that side of the argument however once on has a mother (photo-induced) provided clones are strong and your methods for cloning are not shoddy (rooting gel not powder, and heat pads, humid enviornment) then pound for pound so to speak if one is using a fast flowering indica (60 days) then its seems that photo would win out, now it seems though that in that amount of time it takes to create a suitable mother (even longer if your waiting to see which of your initial seeds is best individual) that one would benefit to grow a crop of autos on the side to make up for those months you have no smoke?

Guys i would love to see you proiduce more than 20g dry from an outo. they were grown in 10L airpots same as my photo period.

Only differance is the auto was in soil and my current plants are in coco. nutes were all top shelve.

Why grow Autos???? It honestly doesnt take much longer to grow a normal plant, stop waisting your times

Regarding the guy with the plant on the window ledge with 5hr of sun light, thge only word for this is lol. calm down son!

Is this even possible, i doubt it show me pictures.

barneys wife must be a troll

as a first time grower, i am attracted to the simplicity of autos. it's going to be all i can do to grow a plant and not kill it, and setting up a simple grow tent is already straining the budget. to try to set up a second room for a mother, learn how to maintain it, learn how to clone...it's just beyond my abilities and means at this point. with autos, i can put a seed in the dirt and let it go. i can fit more plants under the same light and grow them in less time. if i was a big commercial grower i can see where the need to harvest pounds at a time would be a consideration, but i wouldn't even know what to do with that much smoke. i'm not ripping photos AT ALL. autos just fit my current situation better and i think that's true for a lot of people.

Barneys Wife said:

Guys i would love to see you proiduce more than 20g dry from an outo. they were grown in 10L airpots same as my photo period.

Only differance is the auto was in soil and my current plants are in coco. nutes were all top shelve.

Why grow Autos???? It honestly doesnt take much longer to grow a normal plant, stop waisting your times

Regarding the guy with the plant on the window ledge with 5hr of sun light, thge only word for this is lol. calm down son!

Is this even possible, i doubt it show me pictures.

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Educate yourself before you start talkin shit.

Nordic division said:

Educate yourself before you start talkin shit.

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No need for the attitude... i just doubt u have done this with 5 hrs of sunlight.

And if for some reason the plant did flower then i doubt it would be of good quality.