Are unprotected classes fair?

RyanTheRhino · Oct 15, 2012

Canna Sylvan said:
How are these classes picked? I have blue and green eyes. If I only hired people with those eye colors, could I get away with it? I dated a 5'10" Japanese girl with sky blue eyes.If you lived in an area with Asians, wouldn't it be an easy way to not hire?

You just awnserd your own question.
The awnser is yes. If you did not get hired Because of that, then you can start a group. People with similar culture will join out of fear that it could happen to them. When it happens you take your group you make noise and you shove it down people's throats untill they listen. Class established and employers will now hire you over other people in fear that if they don't it would be discrimination and bring the wraith of the groups protests and media.

Notice the fear. Fear of being a victim

FreedomWorks · Oct 15, 2012

Canna Sylvan said:
How are these classes picked? I have blue and green eyes. If I only hired people with those eye colors, could I get away with it? I dated a 5'10" Japanese girl with sky blue eyes.If you lived in an area with Asians, wouldn't it be an easy way to not hire?

If your a woman you have to vote for Obama because republicans are against women's rights, and want to take us back to the 50's
If you're hispanic you have to vote for Obama becasue republicans are racist
If you're black you have to vote for Obama or else you're a race traitor
If you're a white male you have to vote Obama or else you're a racist

RyanTheRhino · Oct 15, 2012

And to end my discussion. If the wrath of a certain group causes fear that does not make them a minority anymore.

What will happen when the power shifts the bosses will be the victims of all the groups. Enough of them to start their own group and voice how they live in fear and it's destroying their business because they can no longer hire workers for productivity but only to avoid prosecution by a certain group.

Canna Sylvan · Oct 15, 2012

Ryan,
When I was a teacher, the math book even included protected groups. I think that's funny. Math doesn't use that type of logic until college level using statistics and number theory, ie groups/sets.

RyanTheRhino · Oct 15, 2012

Canna Sylvan said:
Ryan,
When I was a teacher, the math book even included protected groups. I think that's funny. Math doesn't use that type of logic until college level using statistics and number theory, ie groups/sets.

I mean
Here is a thought experiment. This is not ment to be offensive.

We have a black man and a white man looking for a job.
The boss has to decide on national television who gets the job.
Both men have the same credentials , charisma, ect
who is more likely to get the job?

They are equals, so now the boss has to decide which choice would be in his best interest.

Same scenario
white man vs white woman
who is more likely to get the job?

Same scenario
White woman vs Hispanic woman
who is more likely to get the job.

Notice a pattern of your first instincts. You most likely picked the ones who could potentially call Down the wrath of their group. path of least resistance even if the wrath of a members group never came why chance it.

lokie · Oct 15, 2012

RyanTheRhino said:
I mean
Here is a thought experiment. This is not ment to be offensive.

We have a black man and a white man looking for a job.
The boss has to decide on national television who gets the job.
Both men have the same credentials , charisma, ect
who is more likely to get the job?

They are equals, so now the boss has to decide which choice would be in his best interest.

what is the title and job description?

fb360 · Oct 15, 2012

Canna Sylvan said:
Freedom,
Exactly. That's what I'm getting at. Doesn't it breed contempt when you worry about getting slapped with a hate crime?The protected get away with bullshit, but in the end don't the unprotected lash out? Isn't it just another way to divide us all?

The question is why are you worried? Just make your point loud and clear, assert your rights, and tear down the stereotype..

Isn't it of pride to be able to say that you aren't a coward, and stand for what you believe in...?
I don't get why anyone would worry if they were really for the cause.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!"
- Thomas Jefferson, writer of our Declaration of Independence, and later, one of our best Presidents.

RyanTheRhino · Oct 15, 2012

lokie said:
what is the title and job description?

A good job like upper management

Canna Sylvan · Oct 15, 2012

fb360,
Because as the employer you get sued and the employee has a hard to impossible time getting the job. The protected classes use their status to gain where they're unqualified. Which is why I'm 100% against unions. A union only cares about the masses.

UncleBuck · Oct 15, 2012

FreedomWorks said:
If your a woman you have to vote for Obama because republicans are against women's rights, and want to take us back to the 50's

because having romney make your decisions about your body is so much better.

FreedomWorks said:
If you're hispanic you have to vote for Obama because republicans are racist

because self deportation is awesome and allowing kids who were brought here through no fault of their own is stupid.

FreedomWorks said:
If you're black you have to vote for Obama or else you're a race traitor

race traitor? blacks vote overwhelmingly with the demorats, you fucking douchebag.

FreedomWorks said:
If you're a white male you have to vote Obama or else you're a racist

persecutedconservativewhitemaleitis.

you poor fucking thing. a nurse will be along to tend to your irritated, sandy vagina shortly.

lokie · Oct 15, 2012

RyanTheRhino said:
A good job like upper management

not good enough.

no worthy employee will apply to a blind general add and stay if hired.

how much pay?

TheMan13 · Oct 15, 2012

Imagine acting as a "Whistle blower" working for a huge powerful corporation. As the "Harassment" of you and your family becomes too much to handle you file for the government protections offered. These forms specifically require you to disclose your Race, Age and Sex to the government. Imagine now, as a decorated veteran, you receive an official letter stating that you are a white male under 50 and have no protections offered under these laws. Is this equality under the law? Why did I risk my life serving this country? Are the "unprotected" here not an intended victim? Affirmative Action has changed the lives of my family and I more than any true war has What happened to content of character ...

Rob Roy · Oct 15, 2012

People should have the freedom to associate or not to associate with any party that wants to associate with them. All people should be "protected" in that sense rather than singling out classes. Singling out classes to protect becomes divisive.

The freedom to associate is best applied when both parties agree to the association. If one party does not agree, then making them associate becomes contradictory to freedom.

TheMan13 · Oct 15, 2012

Are you aware that as a US soldier you give up many of your "rights" to serve, one of which is "freedom to associate"

I think requiring elected officials be held to the same standards of the UCMJ may go a long way in cleaning up DC ...

Rob Roy · Oct 15, 2012

TheMan13 said:
Are you aware that as a US soldier you give up many of your "rights" to serve, one of which is "freedom to associate"

I think requiring elected officials be held to the same standards of the UCMJ may go a long way in cleaning up DC ...

Brains and free will are an impediment to being an obedient tool.

TheMan13 · Oct 15, 2012

I believe that nothing has the obedience of $ ...

Think: Campaigns would be clear bribery if it were not for these same clowns writing "campaign laws". How has that freedom of association worked out for this county? I don't think our forefathers saw these bozos coming

Rob Roy · Oct 15, 2012

TheMan13 said:
I believe that nothing has the obedience of $ ...

Think: Campaigns would be clear bribery if it were not for these same clowns writing "campaign laws". How has that freedom of association worked out for this county? I don't think our forefathers saw these bozos coming

Yes money is a strong motivator for some. However while truth can be covered up it cannot be bought or altered by applying more money to it.

Freedom of association hasn't worked in this country, because freedom of association has been prevented from happening.

TheMan13 · Oct 15, 2012

Rob Roy said:
Yes money is a strong motivator for some. However while truth can be covered up it cannot be bought or altered by applying more money to it.

LoL What was the definition of "is" again? How did OJ walk? Why not a perp walked Wall Street exec?

Rob Roy · Oct 15, 2012

TheMan13 said:
LoL What was the definition of "is" again? How did OJ walk? Why not a perp walked Wall Street exec?

A verdict is not the same as truth. Nor is a law always just.

TheMan13 · Oct 15, 2012

Rob Roy said:
A verdict is not the same as truth. Nor is a law always just.

Ah yes, the point of this thread

As for me I have no $ or civil rights

I also do not believe my "character" in this society has served my family or I well

Are unprotected classes fair?

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