hotrodharley
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5 gallon minimum . In fact 5 can grow a huge plant. Check Ruth's Tree Farm bags. Cheap and excellent .
Any notes or details that you might think will improve my grow and yeild
hotrodharley
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And a lattice work or something for the bags to sit on so air gets completely under them. Do not let them sit directly flat on a floor.
Pat the New Farmer
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Shit thanks man a lot of good information!
Pat the New Farmer
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Your a big help
hotrodharley
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I can grow killer bud easier than l can grow decent tomatoes.
Pat the New Farmer
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Thanks lol I'll look into it!
Pat the New Farmer
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These are pictures as of now at 7.5in a lot of new growth at the bottom. If I top it soon will the bottom prosper more?
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jimihendrix1
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That's WAY TO MUCH FERTILIZER EEEEEKKKKKSSSS!!!!! Gonna kill it.
DIrections say only 2-3 TEASPOONS MAX..... Not TBLSP.
How hot is it?? Loks like the leaves are tacoing from heat stress, or the FAN could also be causing this by blowing dry air on it. Whats Humidity??? Get fan off of it.
Also use tap water that's been sitting out 24 hours. Distilled/RO water will strip minerals, and isn't necessary.
Whats your medium?
If the roots are filling up to pot at this point I would up pot to whichever you decide. A lot depends on you. As has been stated, if youre gonna use that light, better up pot, and flip the lights in a few more inches, or it will outgrow the light capability.
Also if it is Purple Haze, it is very much Sativa, and they require higher light output to be happiest vs indica dominant, and it will stretch a lot after flip.
If possible??
Id get a bigger light.
Id use at least 50w Sq/ft, regardless of light source.
Scientists measure the Sun by several different ways, and W/Sq/ft is 1 of them. Sun is 10,000+ watts Sq/M
Up Pot
Read Up on Feeding Schedules with those products.
Get the fan off the light. I do like to have fans going, and I want to see slight movement from my plants This makes the branches stronger. I also keep the fans on, when lights are out. Exhuse is also a good thing. Anyhting to get air exchange.
Do all you can to get fresh air exchange.
KISS.
Keep It Simple.
Its not rocket science, and if you adhere to several basic facts, you will succeed. Veer off any, and you risk failure. The further you go from the basics, the more chance to fail.
Good Genetics
Strong Light. I like 1000w Hortilux HPS. Or 1000w Gavita I also veg with these, and seedlings only see 1000w from day 1.
Great Air Exchange
large enough pot to support a pretty good root system.
Light Grow Medium.. I like Promix BX for basic. Living Soil is good for long term organic.
Learning how to Feed/Water
Clean room.9
I also recommend a cheap Lowes Moisture Meter.
Never let the needle get to Low Moist Line on the dial. Always just a slight bit up from Dry/Moist Line. NEVER to Dry. Low Moist. Cant stress this enough.
If a pot goes dry the fertilizer concentrates. The when you water, it releases the concentrated salts, burining your plants. Add you may also feed at this time, compounding the overfert/concentration of salts even more
Fabric Pots are good.
After Up Potting, I would strt Bending that plant so it grows Horizontally, and then I would train all side branching to grow horizontally. You will at first have to physically manipulate the secondaries, but the new growth wont have too be messed with. Instead of growing a Tall plant, grow it like a grape vine. It will turn into a hedge. Just keep the top bent over. It will grow itself. I don't like Topping. I like horizontal bending, and keep my growing tip. Topping can be good, but IMHO it slows turn around time, because the plant has to recover. If recovery is taken into account. Topping works. But for me speed, and turn around re important, and topping IMHO requires more veg time for my purposes.
I like Promix BX for grow Medium.
DIrections say only 2-3 TEASPOONS MAX..... Not TBLSP.
How hot is it?? Loks like the leaves are tacoing from heat stress, or the FAN could also be causing this by blowing dry air on it. Whats Humidity??? Get fan off of it.
Also use tap water that's been sitting out 24 hours. Distilled/RO water will strip minerals, and isn't necessary.
Whats your medium?
If the roots are filling up to pot at this point I would up pot to whichever you decide. A lot depends on you. As has been stated, if youre gonna use that light, better up pot, and flip the lights in a few more inches, or it will outgrow the light capability.
Also if it is Purple Haze, it is very much Sativa, and they require higher light output to be happiest vs indica dominant, and it will stretch a lot after flip.
If possible??
Id get a bigger light.
Id use at least 50w Sq/ft, regardless of light source.
Scientists measure the Sun by several different ways, and W/Sq/ft is 1 of them. Sun is 10,000+ watts Sq/M
Up Pot
Read Up on Feeding Schedules with those products.
Get the fan off the light. I do like to have fans going, and I want to see slight movement from my plants This makes the branches stronger. I also keep the fans on, when lights are out. Exhuse is also a good thing. Anyhting to get air exchange.
Do all you can to get fresh air exchange.
KISS.
Keep It Simple.
Its not rocket science, and if you adhere to several basic facts, you will succeed. Veer off any, and you risk failure. The further you go from the basics, the more chance to fail.
Good Genetics
Strong Light. I like 1000w Hortilux HPS. Or 1000w Gavita I also veg with these, and seedlings only see 1000w from day 1.
Great Air Exchange
large enough pot to support a pretty good root system.
Light Grow Medium.. I like Promix BX for basic. Living Soil is good for long term organic.
Learning how to Feed/Water
Clean room.9
I also recommend a cheap Lowes Moisture Meter.
Never let the needle get to Low Moist Line on the dial. Always just a slight bit up from Dry/Moist Line. NEVER to Dry. Low Moist. Cant stress this enough.
If a pot goes dry the fertilizer concentrates. The when you water, it releases the concentrated salts, burining your plants. Add you may also feed at this time, compounding the overfert/concentration of salts even more
Fabric Pots are good.
After Up Potting, I would strt Bending that plant so it grows Horizontally, and then I would train all side branching to grow horizontally. You will at first have to physically manipulate the secondaries, but the new growth wont have too be messed with. Instead of growing a Tall plant, grow it like a grape vine. It will turn into a hedge. Just keep the top bent over. It will grow itself. I don't like Topping. I like horizontal bending, and keep my growing tip. Topping can be good, but IMHO it slows turn around time, because the plant has to recover. If recovery is taken into account. Topping works. But for me speed, and turn around re important, and topping IMHO requires more veg time for my purposes.
I like Promix BX for grow Medium.
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Pat the New Farmer
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This is what I'm talking about thanks for taking your time out to help man! And sorry I meant to he saying tea spoons all this time and it's like at a constant 80°F humidity unsually stay at 40% humidity is at 48% right now actually
Pat the New Farmer
Member
Lol thanks man every piece of input is valuable!Ignore humidity, this plant handles most ranges we do just make sure theres fresh air.
Some species are more caring of humidity but mainly weed is one that dont care much.
At 70% humidity and above my tent grows mold so doubt your hitting 80%
jimihendrix1
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Others had good suggestions also concur with.
Blake999 was the first to mention to much fert. Way to much fert.
More Light
Get Fan Off of it
Fabric Pots
You've been watering with the Ratio you stated?? 2 TBLSP per Gallon???? Grow formula???
Looks to me like it also has the beginnings of Nitrogen Toxicity. I see slightly burnt edges/tips, and the leaves are really dark green.
You might go a watering or 2 with no fert, and resume at 2TSP per Gallon. Not TBLSP. Less is more. You cant force feed them, and not expect consequences. Its like to many vitamins. Many are toxic. You only need so much for basic function, growth, and repair. Any more than that, and youre pissing into the wind, and in many cases defeating your purpose.
You also need t get the humidity up to more than 40%. 50%/55% would be better. Especially with wind.
40% last couple weeks flowering, or lower. Plants in a more humid environment generally express wider leaf area.
Blake999 was the first to mention to much fert. Way to much fert.
More Light
Get Fan Off of it
Fabric Pots
You've been watering with the Ratio you stated?? 2 TBLSP per Gallon???? Grow formula???
Looks to me like it also has the beginnings of Nitrogen Toxicity. I see slightly burnt edges/tips, and the leaves are really dark green.
You might go a watering or 2 with no fert, and resume at 2TSP per Gallon. Not TBLSP. Less is more. You cant force feed them, and not expect consequences. Its like to many vitamins. Many are toxic. You only need so much for basic function, growth, and repair. Any more than that, and youre pissing into the wind, and in many cases defeating your purpose.
You also need t get the humidity up to more than 40%. 50%/55% would be better. Especially with wind.
40% last couple weeks flowering, or lower. Plants in a more humid environment generally express wider leaf area.
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jimihendrix1
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Id really look into the fert. Needs to be fed a lot less.
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Kingrow1
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Humidity can do very little to change the fact that wind strips water from leaves, the equation dosent work this way and you are force cooling a leaf not letting it freely cool itself as nature intended.
Wind is not natural or needed for the three processes of leaf cooling in nature, futher still we make constant wind and .ot that ebb and flow stuff in nature, this is exponentially a lot worse.
If we set our extraction to the exact amount of heat given off by our lights most of you would have your extractors running way too much.
These are exacting parameters.
Pat the New Farmer
Member
Thanks man and yes I started with the tsp I should have said that idk why I been saying table spoons XD but the plant might be a little more mature because I had it growing off a table lamp with no tent for like a month didn't know what I was doing. But us soon as I got everything you see there it's been growing about a half inch a day. But I been going like 4 Dixie cups of the gallon of big grow like twice a week and the big grow 1 Dixie cups once a week. Which is basically like a shot glass. Also when I give it a regular feeding I use either my gallon of water with one tsp of baking soda in it to increase pH and one with vinegar to drop pH levels
