always same strains suggested.

i like reading the strain section to learn what every one is mixing and matching and about the lesser known newer type breeders,but ive noticed since elite went down,the number one seed maker people recomend on here is subcools.it is like their is nothing else out their.the section has no diversity,so we went from elite every other post to subcool.

have you looked thru potpimp.com?

hydgrow said:

have you looked thru potpimp.com?

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no,i dont believe i have,but i just orderd a few weeks ago from canacopia,chimera,spice of life,jordan of the islands,visc and prairie pride,and splitting an order for leprocaun and east island seeds(brendas dutch treat cross.I cant believe how many people love joi after they try it,they dont promote like subcool,im not sure they ever did an article in the mags,but they have fruitiest genetics you will find.

"we went from elite every other post to subcool. "

Flavor of the month, and I love it!

Just so many great reviews for Subcool, good prices, articulate and likable breeder. I've got 3 of his strains growing and 3 more on order. I want to get a good cross of his strains before demand sucks up supply and either the prices rise (doubtful) or he has to increase the scope of his seed production with a possible reduction in quality.

I'm putting my money on OGraskal as the next hot new breeder.

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trapper said:

i like reading the strain section to learn what every one is mixing and matching and about the lesser known newer type breeders,but ive noticed since elite went down,the number one seed maker people recomend on here is subcools.it is like their is nothing else out their.the section has no diversity,so we went from elite every other post to subcool.

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First you said the same strains are suggested over and over and then you switched to the same breeder being suggested over and over. Those are really two different things.
　
Myself I see many different breeder lines suggested on a regular basis.

I do seem to see many strain names repeated often but then few go on to say whose line of beans, which breeder’s version of the strain they are talking about because of those most suggested most often times they normally have any number of knockoff versions to pick from beside the original.

So in most cases no one really knows what the person is actually growing.

At most they know a generic name for what is one of numerous different genetic versions named after the original.

I believe subcool has always been top notch but no widely available. Now that attitude has them on their site I think demad has gone up due them being reputable seed company. They accept CC and have tons of positive feedback, with subcool/attitude rep you have a great chance to get your seeds and good genetics.

imo the best strains are the clone onlys floating around socal there is just so much competition amongst growers for quality that it forces all but the best strains to go away a great situation really. slowly but surely through backcrossing hybrids or through fem seeds these strains will be made more available. you can almost tell when someone does not have access to these strains by there lists of favorites.

420MED said:

I believe subcool has always been top notch

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I hold a completely diametric opinion to yours when it comes to SubCool.

Should we be more like High Times and recommend a different strain from a different breeder every couple of weeks? Tried and tested, good gear is good gear bro.. people recommended Elite because his gear was solid, people recommend Subcool because his gear is solid.. when other breeders step up, they will be acknowledged as well.

grown his jtr good high yielding sativa with good appeal and trichs but still not to the level of ogs and some others. i like the jtr for day smoke though minimal couch lock. all in all a good strain i would grow again as my sativa though i prefer blue dream.

Look at it like a financial portfolio. You keep the majority of your assets in "known and proven" stocks (familiar strains/breeders), and a smaller percentage in "riskier" stocks (less known strains/breeders).

The riskier stocks gives you the potential for growth but if it doesn't work out, your main portfolio will absorb the loss, and you won't be crying in ur coffee every morning.

Keep some familiar strains with you and then experiment to a lesser extent with "new" strains/breeders.

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Subcool because his gear is solid.. when other breeders step up, they will be acknowledged as well.

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Reeferman was producing top quality gear before anyone ever heard of SubCool but how many people here recommend Reeferman’s gear? He stepped up before SubCool even knew there was a step to go up.



Name of the strain

Accidental Haze - Accidental is more a hazey high than a asian high ... BC Mango - Our unique to Canada Mango is one of our best over... Bazooka Joe - This is our new bubblegum line based on the HTCC c... Blackseed - Blackseed is a mostly Mexican IBL that dates back ... Blueberry Blast - A blueberry indica x northern lights of the highes... Blueberry Indica - This plant is bred from indica pheno of dj shorts.... Burmese Pure - A highland cultivated landrace from Burma. True Br... Cam1 x C99 - AKA: Cambo99, The Cam c-99 cam 1 and cam 3 the cam... Cam3 x C99 - The Cam c-99 cam 1 and cam 3 the cambodian lines a... Cambodian x Haze - ... Cherry Bomb Indica - This is the origional bomb ! the california indica... Cherry Haze - Its the simplist of all the hazes it takes 9-10 we... Cinderella 99 - Our F4 version of the famous 50 day sativa created... Early Durban x Haze - sorry, no description... Early Island Indica - A super early afghani that produces rock hard nugg... Full Melt Madness - A sweet and fruity Afghani hybrid that is easy to ... G13 x Haze - Winner at this years High Times Cannabis Cup. Kill... G13ab x Burmese - The original from Kodiak Island, Alaska, this is s... Haze bros original Haze - Haze brothers origional haze crazzy old school thi... Hindu Kush x Haze - Hindu kush x haze this is a IBL that origionally w... John Sinclair - Weve renamed our Red Congolese sativa hybrid in ho... King Skunk - This is the same clone, used in Kings kross. Polli... Kodiak Gold - The original from Kodiak Island, Alaska, this is s... Lebanese Hashplant - The breeding parent of Reeferman Hash plant, Leb i... Love Potion #1 - 2004 Cannabis Cup Winner - Best Sativa and Best He... Love potion #2 - Lemmon pledge sativa pheno. These ladies lean heav... Love potion 1.1 - This is our indica dominant love potion selection ... Manga Haze - An extremely easy Haze to grow, even for first-tim... Mango Rose - ... Nepalese - ... Nigerian - The father of Nightmare, Nigerian has earthy aroma... Nigerian Nightmare - Awesome early outdoor plants with super frost prod... Panama Red - Panama red old school red hair from panama this is... Petrolia Headstash - A highly coveted true breeding strain from Humbold... Phnom Penh - the PP is anything but average ! Crossing to a Tha... RM-G13 - G-13 X White Rhino, then backcrossed to the Airbor... Reeferman Sour Diesel - The new disel dominant line that will be a future ... Senor Garcia - Oregon Purple Thai x Panama Red. A trippy sativa i... Sugarwarp - A great outdoor strain that yields huge . Our swee... Super Silver Haze - ... Super Star - Super star is our ( g13 x haze ) x the Htcc and hi... Tajikistani - Tajikistan is located smack dab between Afghanista... Thunderfuck Haze - The classic Matanuska Thunderfuck indica mixes it ... Viper - Watch out, this one can sneak up on ya. Once again... Williams Mango - The original Williams Wonder makes an F1 with BC M... Williams Wonder - ... Willie Nelson - 2005 High Times Cannabis Cup Winner - Best Sativa,...

420MED said:

I believe subcool has always been top notch but no widely available. Now that attitude has them on their site I think demad has gone up due them being reputable seed company. They accept CC and have tons of positive feedback, with subcool/attitude rep you have a great chance to get your seeds and good genetics.

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i dont hold that opinion,i think that he is a great promoter and photorapher but not close to the top breeders,he gets more exposure in magazines then any other because hes like vince mcmahn of wwf,he can sell.but i found his quote about how each of his strains has a specific medical aplication to be pure salesmanship and not fact.he uses a lot of space queen and brother grim stuff and urkle,but i dont think he is in the class of the top breeders.he uses others genetics in his strains,they dont use his. i honestly believe my crosses are as good as his,when iyou make a strain out of a 10 pack of seeds.it already was a strain,just a name change.and now i find out that trainwreck is not a single clone only but many clones of trainwreck i get lost in the bush,i become snow blind.

trapper said:

no,i dont believe i have,but i just orderd a few weeks ago from canacopia,chimera,spice of life,jordan of the islands,visc and prairie pride,and splitting an order for leprocaun and east island seeds(brendas dutch treat cross.I cant believe how many people love joi after they try it,they dont promote like subcool,im not sure they ever did an article in the mags,but they have fruitiest genetics you will find.

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I think I'll check out that jordan of the islands...I always like trying new strains and fruity pot. I love tga though...

Hobbes said:

I want to get a good cross of his strains before demand sucks up supply and either the prices rise (doubtful) or he has to increase the scope of his seed production with a possible reduction in quality.

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from subcool:

I think you will be happy to know that over the next 10 years our goal is to find these gems in all the TGA gear and work them into more stabilized crosses. I now feel I have created 16 amazing hybrids to form a breeding pool and now thats thats done we can start honing down the phenos that make history.

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OGRaskal has some killer looking crosses and s1s...probably will get real popular...

brick top quote:Reeferman was producing top quality gear before anyone ever heard of SubCool but how many people here recommend Reeferman’s gear? He stepped up before SubCool even knew there was a step to go up.
reeferman was a legend on the west coast,subcool couldnt carry his jock strap.

take kali mist,jack herer,white russian,reefermans hash plant and a good kush and go to work,you can come up with some amazeing genetics.

trapper said:

reeferman was a legend on the west coast,subcool couldnt carry his jock strap.

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The Space Queen that SubCool uses in some of his crosses is an F2 from an original Reeferman strain.

As most people know F2’s are unstable and what they produce can be rather less than predictable.

There was a time I would not purchase any professional breeder’s gear other than Reeferman’s.

I do not think any less of his genetic line now than I did then but since then a few other breeders have really hit one or two out of the park so I had to give them a shot.
　
Does anyone here honestly think that SubCool is in the same category as say …. Shantibaba?

Personally I don’t.

Brick Top said:

The Space Queen that SubCool uses in some of his crosses is an F2 from an original Reeferman strain.

As most people know F2’s are unstable and what they produce can be rather less than predictable.

There was a time I would not purchase any professional breeder’s gear other than Reeferman’s.

I do not think any less of his genetic line now than I did then but since then a few other breeders have really hit one or two out of the park so I had to give them a shot.
　
Does anyone here honestly think that SubCool is in the same category as say …. Shantibaba?

Personally I don’t.

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everyone was growing reefermans champagne years ago,it was steadt eddy.you could do a grow op from those seeds they were so stable.my buddy in nelson grew all reeferman,he said their wasnt a bad one in the bunch,this was years ago.personally i have grown 5 joi strains loved them all.You look at DJ he smoked a 1000 plants looking for that eunique high,and i gotta say he hit the nail on the head with more then a few strains.when i questioned how jack the ripper was stable i got static.how can an f2 dad(reefermans space queen,or is it grims) into a 4 way clone only hybrid jacks cleaner whos dad was the unstable jack herer be stable,im not saying its not good,i dont like the edgyness to it,but it aint stable.it is what it is,but i dont call that breeding,sorry.

brick top you ever grow reefermans kings cross,i would like to try it.

all breeders work off other breeders previous work its just the way it is. no different with breeders than say with music its just the way it is. no point arguing who did what the only concern should be growing the best available now imo.