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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
it's be pretty easy for you to put this whole thing to rest by simply saying 8 year olds can't consent, pedo.
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Do you mean they can't consent to anything or just things you and I both seem to hold in disdain, Poopy Pants ?
(for the record your 8 year old example is a little frightening, even for your trollish jollies....you pervert)

Is there an age where you feel some people can consent, while others of the same age do not have that ability (yet)?
If you don't think that the onset of the ability to consent varies from individual to individual, then you must default to the idea that all people gain their respective mental faculties simultaneously and it is magically based on a universal chronological clock, which is absurd.

I'd be happy to continue discourse, but in fairness, you should answer my questions, otherwise I'd think your only interest is to try to defame me with false accusations, rather than as an intellectual discussion of what consent is on a generic level.

What is consent and who can give it ? I think that's how this started as a generic question a couple of years back.
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Do you mean they can't consent to anything or just things you and I both seem to hold in disdain, Poopy Pants ?
(for the record your 8 year old example is a little frightening, even for your trollish jollies....you pervert)

Is there an age where you feel some people can consent, while others of the same age do not have that ability (yet)?
If you don't think that the onset of the ability to consent varies from individual to individual, then you must default to the idea that all people gain their respective mental faculties simultaneously and it is magically based on a universal chronological clock, which is absurd.

I'd be happy to continue discourse, but in fairness, you should answer my questions, otherwise I'd think your only interest is to try to defame me with false accusations, rather than as an intellectual discussion of what consent is on a generic level.

What is consent and who can give it ? I think that's how this started as a generic question a couple of years back.
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or you could just say the obvious, which is that 8 year olds can't consent.

but you won't, because you think they can.
 
Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
Just say it is illegal and wrong for an adult to have sexual relations with a minor.
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Oh my. Where to begin?

I don't like it and don't like people who are into that. Again, I've said numerous times I have a personal and cultural bias against it.

So, Uncle Buck and crew's incessant trolling and pedo name calling is sloppy and low skill trolling as it doesn't have even a grain of truth to it. On the other hand, he DID admit to criminal floor assault and shattery, which makes my repartee better, dare we say..."THE WINNER" ?

Your question though, pardon me, it's not formed very well. You seem to use the words wrong and illegal a bit interchangeably. Slavery was once legal, but it was always wrong. Work on that line of flawed questioning please.

As far as it being illegal, I think the age of legal consent is an arbitrary number, as some states, countries etc. assign different ages of consent. Perhaps Uncle Buck can enlighten you, since he claims knowledge of NAMBLA preachings, maybe he has committed the age of consent in different areas to memory too? He seems very interested in the topic.

My arguments haven't been that people should do anything, except to honor the ability of a person who CAN consent, to be able to make their own choices, rather than have somebody else make them for them.

You see, whether it was illegal or not, I would still not like it, but I don't think I have a right to tell other people who are capable of consenting to something which is none of my business what to do. Do you have that right ? Where does it come from? I bet you won't answer the two questions I just asked.
 
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Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
or you could just say the obvious, which is that 8 year olds can't consent.

but you won't, because you think they can.
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Would you say a child is incapable of consenting to anything or just things which you and I find objectionable ?

For instance could a child of 10 consent to you giving him $2 to shovel the snow from your walk ?
 
londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
Oh my. Where to begin?

I don't like it and don't like people who are into that. Again, I've said numerous times I have a personal and cultural bias against it.

So, Uncle Buck and crew's incessant trolling and pedo name calling is sloppy and low skill trolling as it doesn't have even a grain of truth to it. On the other hand, he DID admit to criminal floor assault and shattery, which makes my repartee better, dare we say..."THE WINNER" ?

Your question though, pardon me, it's not formed very well. You seem to use the words wrong and illegal a bit interchangeably. Slavery was once legal, but it was always wrong. Work on that line of flawed questioning please.

As far as it being illegal, I think the age of legal consent is an arbitrary number, as some states, countries etc. assign different ages of consent. Perhaps Uncle Buck can enlighten you, since he claims knowledge of NAMBLA preachings, maybe he has committed the age of consent in different area to memory to? He seems very interested in the topic.

My arguments haven't been that people should do anything, except to honor the ability of a person who CAN consent, to be able to make their own choices, rather than have somebody else make them for them.

You see, whether it was illegal or not, I would still not like it, but I don't think I have a right to tell other people who are capable of consenting to something which is none of my business what to do. Do you have that right ? Where does it come from? I bet you won't answer the two questions I just asked.
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Dont play stupid.
Illegal meaning law. Wrong meaning fucking morals.
I gave you a chance to just say it was wrong. You typed a whole lot of nonsense for loopholes.
Out of curiosity what age should be place on relationships ? or do you believe a really mature 12 year old can get with an immature 26 year old ? Do you have an age ? or not
 
Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
Dont play stupid.
Illegal meaning law. Wrong meaning fucking morals.
I gave you a chance to just say it was wrong. You typed a whole lot of nonsense for loopholes.
Out of curiosity what age should be place on relationships ? or do you believe a really mature 12 year old can get with an immature 26 year old ? Do you have an age ? or not
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See ? that wasn't hard, you asked a half decent question.

The age for me nowadays is probably 40 something and up. I'm in a monogamous relationship with a wonderful 50 something year old woman (young stuff for old goat like me) so my answer is sort of hypothetical.

For other people as long as both parties are capable of consenting and do, I figure it's none of my business, even if I don't personally approve. How about you, if people can consent to something and do, but you don't like it, do you stick your nose into their business?
 
londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
Would you say a child is incapable of consenting to anything or just things which you and I find objectionable ?

For instance could a child of 10 consent to you giving him $2 to shovel the snow from your walk ?
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are you really comparing a kid shoveling snow to a sexual relation ? or are you telling us how you lure children?
 
Rob Roy

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Justin-case said:
Your posts are dispicable:spew:
Do the world a favor and off yourself
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If my name was Jack you could have said, (while looking sternly at me over the tops of your glasses)

JACK! Off yourself!! ....and then stomped away self righteously to work out your childhood basement confinement trauma.
 
londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
If my name was Jack you could have said, (while looking sternly at me over the tops of your glasses)

JACK! Off yourself!! ....and then stomped away self righteously to work out your childhood basement confinement trauma.
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ok we know how your kids feel about you , but does your wife even like you ?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
are you really comparing a kid shoveling snow to a sexual relation ? or are you telling us how you lure children?
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No, I was asking if a child can consent to anything with an adult as an attempt to use generic examples of what consent is, isn't etc.

Uncle Buck then ran away from the question faster than he runs from honoring a bet.
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
I was asking you about what consent is in a generic way and you seem to want to return to talking about pedophilia. That's a little disconcerting.
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what's more disconcerting is that you refuse to state that 8 year olds can't consent, you sick pedo.
 
londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
See ? that wasn't hard, you asked a half decent question.

The age for me nowadays is probably 40 something and up. I'm in a monogamous relationship with a wonderful 50 something year old woman (young stuff for old goat like me) so my answer is sort of hypothetical.

For other people as long as both parties are capable of consenting and do, I figure it's none of my business, even if I don't personally approve. How about you, if people can consent to something and do, but you don't like it, do you stick your nose into their business?
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OMFG. It is true. you defend pedophiles.
Yeah I will stick my nose in business if it involves a child being molested by an adult. Laws have been established and I agree.
You just said if both parties consent, go for it. So if a 10 year old consented to have sex with a 30 year old then that is none of your business and deemed ok. You disgust me right now guy :spew:
 
choomer

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londonfog said:
Just say it is illegal and wrong for an adult to have sexual relations with a minor.
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You, in my opinion, are minor.
Are you really going to discount the Bell Curve and say that all people fit within your narrow understanding?

Wait.....it explains so much...carry on.

EDIT: Especially since you evince a standard (by being here and saying those things) that all law is just no matter of your personal opinion?

I know a 10 yo that I'd trust to drive me to the hospital, but few 40 yo that I could say the same of.

Age, while a good median to appraise maturity , is not the only one that should be considered.

You choose Buckold (or others of the same ilk) to be your wingman?
It's a fuggin' forum dude.
This has nothing to do w/ real life.
 
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