550W Led vs. 20x Green-o-Matic Autos

newworldicon

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One thing i wish all LED manufacturers would do to their design is make the panel bigger in physical size to make the footprint larger...
 

jdizzle22

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One thing i wish all LED manufacturers would do to their design is make the panel bigger in physical size to make the footprint larger...
Not exactly a good thing because then you have to pay even more for what you get, you risking losing even more when something goes wrong (and shipping it to them or back is gonna be a bigger bitch), they get heavier and heavier, etc lots of good reasons not to do that. If you don't think they make them big enough get a light mover! Your space is only 4 feet wide you you would only need a single 6-8 ft rail that went up the middle, it would help you get more out of your best LED lights.
 

newworldicon

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Not exactly a good thing because then you have to pay even more for what you get, you risking losing even more when something goes wrong (and shipping it to them or back is gonna be a bigger bitch), they get heavier and heavier, etc lots of good reasons not to do that. If you don't think they make them big enough get a light mover! Your space is only 4 feet wide you you would only need a single 6-8 ft rail that went up the middle, it would help you get more out of your best LED lights.
I see no point in a light rail in a 4x4 space, even though right now its not in that space, remember that everything here is aimed at going in to the 4x4. As for weight and shipping....these are not an issue for me as you can see with stealthgrows 1250 unit. Besides the tech will allow these panels to get thinner and lighter in years to come just like tv's, mobiles, everything my friend. PS. I am a 17 yr. veteran of product design, I've worked on products that have become household names worldwide so I feel I can see exactly where this tech is going. 10 years from now every hobby grower of any plant indoors will be using LED, even commercial growers of the more invested ilk.
 

jdizzle22

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I see no point in a light rail in a 4x4 space, even though right now its not in that space, remember that everything here is aimed at going in to the 4x4. As for weight and shipping....these are not an issue for me as you can see with stealthgrows 1250 unit. Besides the tech will allow these panels to get thinner and lighter in years to come just like tv's, mobiles, everything my friend. PS. I am a 17 yr. veteran of product design, I've worked on products that have become household names worldwide so I feel I can see exactly where this tech is going. 10 years from now every hobby grower of any plant indoors will be using LED, even commercial growers of the more invested ilk.
Sorry I thought I read you were growing in a 4x8, yeah for a 4x4 I would either get a single big one like a good 500-600w or a couple smaller ones like two GLH 290s or two Blackstar '500's
 

newworldicon

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Sorry I thought I read you were growing in a 4x8, yeah for a 4x4 I would either get a single big one like a good 500-600w or a couple smaller ones like two GLH 290s or two Blackstar '500's
LOL I don't want to confuse you, I am growing the autos right now in the 8x4 but only using half of it for the experiment but it would in future be going into 4x4 flower rooms.
 

mantiszn

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we should start making panels for uk :P

'n boer maak 'n plan

I see no point in a light rail in a 4x4 space, even though right now its not in that space, remember that everything here is aimed at going in to the 4x4. As for weight and shipping....these are not an issue for me as you can see with stealthgrows 1250 unit. Besides the tech will allow these panels to get thinner and lighter in years to come just like tv's, mobiles, everything my friend. PS. I am a 17 yr. veteran of product design, I've worked on products that have become household names worldwide so I feel I can see exactly where this tech is going. 10 years from now every hobby grower of any plant indoors will be using LED, even commercial growers of the more invested ilk.
 

newworldicon

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we should start making panels for uk :P

'n boer maak 'n plan
I think the market has found it's feet already and the players are settled now, we would only be playing catch up in terms of reputation and technology.

I am working on a low pressure aeroponics table that will fit most tents in various sizes. They are being test run as we speak :-)
 

Kilbot

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I was watching an LED grow but the guy that ways doing it got offended by some dickhead and bounced. I'm interested in seeing how they do. Honestly, all I've heard is bad things from serious commercial growers, but maybe theres been advancements since then.
i hear you...most of my friends are commercial growers and all tried to tell me to use HPS. im almost 20 days into flowering and i am still happy with what im seeing... (fingers crossed)
 

mantiszn

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i kinda agree except that i have only found one UK based distributor and they aren't exactly reputable :/

who are the reputable companies?

blackstar (are they even any good?)
supernova (seen a journal using these panels - v good but super pricey)
progrow (HH)

I think the market has found it's feet already and the players are settled now, we would only be playing catch up in terms of reputation and technology.

I am working on a low pressure aeroponics table that will fit most tents in various sizes. They are being test run as we speak :-)
 

jdizzle22

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i kinda agree except that i have only found one UK based distributor and they aren't exactly reputable :/

who are the reputable companies?

blackstar (are they even any good?)
supernova (seen a journal using these panels - v good but super pricey)
progrow (HH)
The most reputable/provenwithfinishedcannabisgrows to me are growledhydro and blackstar, isis, and another I can't recall the name of...
 

Kilbot

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i kinda agree except that i have only found one UK based distributor and they aren't exactly reputable :/

who are the reputable companies?

blackstar (are they even any good?)
supernova (seen a journal using these panels - v good but super pricey)
progrow (HH)
i just got my 500 watt blackstars yesterday...hooked em up and they are bright as shit....they run hotter than my 357 magnums but thats just the extra diodes im sure....i cant see a heatsink in there which might expain the 8 fans they use.

they are also a different color than the magnum which uses a few more blues in the ratio. itll be interesting to see them side by side. and the difference in growth.

if i had to compare apples and oranges the 357 magnum seems like a better made light. but a little more expencive watt for $.

i would really like to get my hands on a growstealh to compare PAR levels.
 

newworldicon

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Update...they have really started to stretch now, pistils are starting to show and the real test begins now, will they flower well??.....







The new batch in soil, they look a better colour already..

 

Icculus

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Hey i have been watching for a while nice grow you have going! I was just wondering if you knew if 550 was the actual watage used on your LED light?
 

newworldicon

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Update...week 5 or 6..not sure. The pistils have started showing on all the plants now, i have put the first run around the edges and the newer run in the middle. A fair bit of stretching has occurred but I don't think it is a lack of light as this stretch has happened whilst the plants were more huddled together last week. I have only just put them in there final resting spot as the new pics show. 1.2m x1.2m +/-.









 
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