400w Querkle Grow

Ok, time for some harvest pics....

This first post is the first plant, which I've labeled "A" pheno (I think that's how I referred to it in earlier posts too).
My camera didn't really do a good job of representing the color of the plant, so I took pics under the T5 fixture without a flash and under incandescent light with a flash. The T5 lighting represented the color of the buds very well but made the foliage look greener than it actually was. The incandescent shows the color of the foliage better but it's kind of hard to see how the buds look because the flash reflected on the resin. Anyhow here it is...


Under the T5s:





Under incandescent light:





And this one shows how much the color changed in flower. The plant on the left is the one I'm vegging now that will be put to flower in a week or so:





Next post will show pics of the "B" pheno... stand by.

Look really nice ...congrats on harvest

Great job Psyte!! that shit looks tasty. did your querkle stretch? they say the stretch is minimal but i have seen a few get large

Ok, here's plant "B" under the T5's:





Under incandescent:





Both plants side by side:






Next post will be pics of both plants all chopped up and hanging.

BlazinL said:

Great job Psyte!! that shit looks tasty. did your querkle stretch? they say the stretch is minimal but i have seen a few get large

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I heard that too but couldn't disagree more. In the first 3 weeks of 12/12 they grew to twice the height they were when put to flower and bushed out a lot. After the first 3 weeks the stretch was over and growth was minimal. Check out this post for detailed info on the stretch:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/473051-400w-querkle-grow-10.html#post6831787

Hangin' out:

Nice grow...but no trim at all before you hang??? to each his own i guess

Already addressed that on page 12. I enjoy experimenting and base my methods on botany and science instead of the myths most growers repeat without even understanding why they are doing what they are doing.

psyte said:

Already addressed that on page 12. I enjoy experimenting and base my methods on botany and science instead of the myths most growers repeat without even understanding why they are doing what they are doing.

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imo the thoery would be that the bud would dry slower with the leaves left on, more moisture around them, slowing the drying. Some people think slow dry long cure helps retain smell and improve taste.

Essentially, yes. Once the bud gets too dry, the cure stops. Some people would even argue that once it drops below a certain moisture level that the cure cannot even be started back up again by increasing the moisture (I'm not sure I buy that, though). In a typical trim-then-hang, the outside tends to get so dry that it can stop the cure on a significant amount of the bud. Like you said, keeping the leaves maintains more even moisture throughout the bud. The other benefit is that nitrogen in the leaves causes a type of fermentation to take place. All of these processes can improve taste, but more importantly assist with the thc conversion process and can result in increased potency (this works much better if heat is applied during the dry/cure, but that is beyond the amount of work I'm willing to do).

And I appreciate that you refer to it as theory because, really, it's all theory until we experiment and find what's works best for our particular setup and needs. If I were growing commercially I wouldn't dream of drying with leaves still on.

thank you for putting up that querkle stretch chart. i think i am in trouble as i purposely vegged quite large thinking that this thing isnt going to stretch.lol. i just put it into flower yesterday and will be doin a little more training now that i no its gonna get huge lol. have you had any test samples yet? i love the flavor of querkle

Did you top yours multiple times? They look very bushy with well developed side branching. Mine were only topped once at 2 nodes so that could cause more stretch than something topped at, say, 6-10 nodes or topped multiple times. You can see in my pics that a lot of the height is in the two main branches/colas. Yours look like they will grow more than two main colas so there will probably be less overall vertical stretch since it will put equal resources into many colas. The one I am about to put to flower was topped multiple times and I don't expect as much of a stretch as my first two:






Haven't tested any of it yet. I actually quit smoking about a month ago because it was causing certain health issues to get worse so smoke report will be based on my wife testing it. I'm not in much of a hurry and will probably end up waiting until it's been drying/curing for at least a couple weeks.

Btw, what's the overall size (with and height) of that plant? I should be putting mine to flower by the end of the week so it would be interesting to compare notes as we go. Mine was 18"H x 26"W when I measured it last friday.

i am sorry to hear that. at least you still have all that butter. to be honest i actually havent measured it. this is me and i am 5'9. Minus the bucket. yes i have topped multiple times and it has reacted extremely well. branches are thick and sturdy so it shuold be able to hold up without any support (fingers crossed).lol. im guessing its 3x3 but a few branches might extend further. vegged with 600 and flowering with 1000

Yeah I love the thick branches on this strain. That plant looks like a fuckin tree branch! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

All these pics look taller than mine. I have one I took 3 cuts off. Has prob 15-18 main branches, but its tiny. like a foot to a foot and a half, about as tall as it is wide, abit taller. Ill measure and post pics. Goofy indica.

This could work well, ill put it dead center under the 1000 and pin the other strains back on stakes.

I also had the SAGE strain to complement the querkle as the taste are very different as well as highs. but my idiot friend forget to keep watering it and it died, so now im stuck with just this one. Or else i woud have Sage as big or bigger then the querkle.

BlazinL said:

Do they nugs seem pretty dense? the sample i got that came from my clone looked rock hard on the plant but then ended up being a litte airy and not as full as i thought it would be

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I started trimming today and have all of A and about half of B done. Unfortunately after the initial drying, the majority of the buds have become VERY fluffy. It's like trimming a sativa, you really can't trim tight at all or there's seriously nothing left. Even the top colas turned a bit fluffy. I gave up on even bothering to trim the majority of it and only trimmed the top colas. The rest (probably about 80-90% of the bud) is really just not worth the effort to trim and I'm just going to turn it all to hash. I'm going to cure it just like I would normal buds since there's so much of it and I want to get the best hash I can out of it. I haven't weighed anything yet cause I need to measure the RH in jars and see if it needs more drying (very likely does).

On the up side, even the lower popcorn is frostier than most top cola stuff I see these days, so it should give me quite a bit of hash. Just from trimming the top colas I've got about 5x more scissor hash than I got from trimming 5oz of blue cheese.

I don't think the fluffy buds have much to do with my setup since my blue cheese gave me a lot of very dense buds, but maybe you'll have better luck with the 1k light since you'll get better penetration and the fan leaf canopy on this strain is so fucking dense. I also think growing 2 cola plants is not the way to go with this strain and growing a multi-topped bush will have much better results. I'll find out for sure with this next plant.

I might give it a short air dry, then immediately put it into a jar and burp as needed from there. trying to keep bud shrinkin minimal, while getting out most of the water, and not letting it mold either. At least thats how it works out in my head.lol. i dont care if it doesnt way a ton as long as the structure of the bud stays some what the same off the plant.

I purchased this strain as personal stash due to great looks, taste, smell and quick finishing time. The site I bought from indicated 55 days flowering, however, Sub cool listed 60-70. The one thing that is really killing me is the slow vegging. I have 1 bag seed (looks very sativa) that has a 10 day head start on my Querkle and it is towering above them! The Sativa was 17.5 when put into flower and now 10 days later and she is 24" tall (with large spaces between middle nodes). My Q measure between 7.5 - 9" tall after 35 days. I haven't topped them, but I did repot all three so they might be recovering from that. I'm using 400 MH and have been light on the nutes, until recently, so we shall see if things pick up. My point being here is, I hope the smoke is worth the effort of this slow growing, low yielding strain. I guess I wouldn't worry too much about it if I had the perpetual grow well up to speed, but I don't, so PATIENCE is my biggest antagonist.