400w DWC Tent - GDP SLH PE Grow Journal

This is the beginning of a new grow, my third grow (excluding 3 half-ass horrible grows as a teenager), I have started from seed. This will be 3 Grandadddy Purple, 2 fem GHS Super Lemon Haze, 1 fem G13 Labs Pineapple Express. Hoping for 1 or 2 GDP because I would prefer to flower 4 or maybe 5. Thinking of adding a freebie cheese candy auto in a 2 liter bottle hempy for my girlfriend to play with.

Previous Bodhi: Dream Lotus grow is curing and pretty dank. Tastes good, happy soaring high with mild - moderate body stone, kind of a harsh narcotic come-down if you have low tolerance.


Things learned from last time...

• Mix well - at one point the root balls were retaining old acidic water like a sponge because I was being lazy relying on the air bubbles to mix the water for me.
• Get PH pen - Finally got a blue labs ph pen, so much better than the liquid drops for a hundred reasons. Still have liquid drops if second opinion is needed for ph.
• Ice bottles only swap out every 24 hours instead of 12. I was doing it twice a day, learned once a day is fine.
• Benes - I use only Aquashield now. I have found I need nothing else to keep water pristine and my res temps stay 66 - 71* I did not like the mushy chunks of barley in my roots from pond-zyme, but I was still using it to conserve Aquashield. When changing res once a week, I would dose with Aquashield, and 3 days later, add pond-zyme to hopefully feed the dying Aquashield (and conserve).
• Veg longer - I want larger plants. Last grow I had to get done because we were out of weed, so short veg.
• A few bubbles is not enough. I had some plants begin to slowly drown due to a lack of bubbles. I attribute this to using different lengths of air line, so some buckets with shorter air lines (less resistance) got more bubbles than others.

Changes this time...

• Air pumps will be suspended somehow inside tent. Same length hoses to each bucket. Small $1 air stones (was using baby food jar sized air stones).
• Switched ventilation system to use less air duct and have fewer bends. The result is more air flow and more noise. I will probably get a fan speed controller at some point.
• Bigger net pots. I want to see the difference when the roots have more hydroton/air.
• 18/6 veg photoperiod - was doing 20/4, probably not a big deal or difference but I want this grow to be the tried and true basics.
• No bloom boosters. I could of course change my mind later, but for now the plan is to stick with basics.
  • Tap Water
  • API Tap Water Conditioner
  • Dyna-Grow Grow (or Bloom)
  • Aquashield
  • PH Up/Down

Not much to see yet.












This is where we hang out and vaporize bowls while we literally watch them grow.

what are the specs on your air pump? and I can see botanicare line of nutes by the bottles but which ones in particular you're using?

It's either an 80w EcoPlus or 60w 70L/min Hydrofarm... I forget which and I can't go look right now. The main one you see in the pictures is some weak version I use for 2 buckets. You can see some metal heat sink fins lying under it... that's my main air pump, it was about $60 from the hydro store. I just use Botanicare Aquashield and I was using Hydroplex.

I re-arranged the grow closet and tent to be way better. Still need to zip tie some electrical cords up but I always forget to take some back there. I plan to begin running perpetually now. Once these 12/12, I'm buying 2 more buckets, another air pump, and some kind of CFL for a veg area and planting 2 more. Three weeks or so later I will plant 2 more... etc... Just so me and my girlfriend don't run out.

After a bunch of fuckin around with germing freebies, I ended up with 1 reg GDP, 3 fem SLH, 1 fem PE, and 1 fem Crit Sensi Star about 1-2 weeks from sprout more or less.

I recently began feeding 110ppm tap water, 75ppm Dyna-Gro Grow, 25ppm Rootbastic at 5.8ph once every 36 - 48 hours... x0.5 ec conversion.

nice idea w/ the fan hanging from the chains like that. i thought about doing something real similar haha

The chain is nice for certain things cuz it's easy to pop a link open to make it any length you want, or just leave a link open in a hook shape for quick shit or whatever.

Can't find my damn zip ties so cords are everywhere.

Cool ill watch this u running gdp from seed? My bad if i missed that lol anyhow all the seed grows ive seen so far mostly look real uniform with not much variation if any i may pick up a pack to go back to all my crosses i made with the kens cut anyhow good luck man

Your not gonna want that foam around your exhaust fan as it will hold the heat int the unit and burn it up quick. Build a baffle box or put the foam o the tent outside with velcro to dull the hum

Yea, from seed. I only ordered 3, all germed but only 1 sprouted; could be male. My method was seed in shot glass 12 hours until they sink, paper towel until 1/2" tap root, plant root down in rockwool. Now I don't fuck with the paper towel, I just soak in a shot glass until it sinks and then plant 1" deep in rockwool and water once a day. This is going to be a fuckin rainbow multi fuck grow. I'm running 4 different strains and my girlfriend just dropped 4 more freebies in shot glasses to start some 2L hempys to squeeze in there: Chocolate Heaven, BB Headband, Snowcap, and Grapefruit. There will probably only be space to flower two or three and they will get residual light.

Once I get this mess into flower I will start taking a more refined approach, narrowing down types of bud and strains I want to try and then start growing full packs pheno hunting to build our collection of 5 or 6 strains.

I'm not worried about the heat from the inline fan. It has been running 24/0 for months perfectly fine, and is cool to the touch. There is 72cfm of air pumping any heat from the fan motor through the wall and dumping it into the bathroom. I would like to upgrade to a 6" or 8" and at that point I will pick up a speed controller and build a sound box from mdf and acoustic foam.

If its a male and if u got room and are capable of letting him drop a lil pollen id dust some of ur best girls anything gdp touches should tighten up and u would be suprised but i think the gdp gets even better in crosses. Thats my plan anyhow lol good stuff

No doubt... it did cross my mind to wonder what a lemon haze x gdp might be like... I have 3 fems going. The PE would be a good candidate too if it comes out dank.

Fosho man id hit any thing haze would be a great canditate

beautiful plants man, ill be here to watch

looking good man...just a few questions, cause i'm sorta new. What stage are your plants in now? do you consider them seedling stage or the beginning of veg? and if they're in seedling stage when do you consider them at veg. I've heard so many different theories that veg starts from sprout, then to read somewhere else that veg starts when true leaves show, then to read again that veg starts when the first 5 fingered leaves show themselves, some insight will be helpful. oh and what are you giving them at this point in terms of a little feeding if any at that? and what are your ppms?

the pump in the left corner is great! i picked up one...the bubbles are crazy. I will upload my first grow in soil (blue mystic and low ryder II) autos, was great for my first time but now i'm doing DWC and will be uploading my grow soon.

My question about the feeding is related to now that they're in the buckets

WarGanJa said:

the pump in the left corner is great! i picked up one...the bubbles are crazy. I will upload my first grow in soil (blue mystic and low ryder II) autos, was great for my first time but now i'm doing DWC and will be uploading my grow soon.

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I have that same pump too, it's causing problems though my air stones sit at the bottom of my buckets and it somehow VIBRATES the shit out of the buckets and my floor. When i walk into my complex i can hear the buzzing(my room is above the front door). I know its the airstones because when i pick em up off the bottom of the buckets it stops.

RL420 said:

I have that same pump too, it's causing problems though my air stones sit at the bottom of my buckets and it somehow VIBRATES the shit out of the buckets and my floor. When i walk into my complex i can hear the buzzing(my room is above the front door). I know its the airstones because when i pick em up off the bottom of the buckets it stops.

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yeah it is loud. i find it produces some added heat as well but in terms of its performance i have to grade it an A the one i have is only 45l per min so good circulation and bubbles, strong little bugger

My stones vibrate the buckets and floor too. I bet we could set our buckets on blankets or foam or some shit to reduce the vibration. I dont think its a problem where i live... in an apartment but ppl below me are stoners and its not likely they hear my pump because the units are huge.

WarGanJa said:

looking good man...just a few questions, cause i'm sorta new. What stage are your plants in now? do you consider them seedling stage or the beginning of veg? and if they're in seedling stage when do you consider them at veg. I've heard so many different theories that veg starts from sprout, then to read somewhere else that veg starts when true leaves show, then to read again that veg starts when the first 5 fingered leaves show themselves, some insight will be helpful. oh and what are you giving them at this point in terms of a little feeding if any at that? and what are your ppms?

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They are seedlings still... oldest plants are 3 weeks from sprout... roots haven't popped out of the net baskets yet. Been in the buckets for a week and a half I think. The biggest plants have 5 nodes and the 6th is forming.

You get 2 cotyledons and the first pair of 1 fingered leafs. This first set of single finger leafs are the first node.... however for topping and all other practical purposes I consider the next node which is the first set of 3 finger leafs to be the first. Those two little single finger leafs will most likely never get very big, and probably fall off at some point in late veg.

I will feel they are in full veg when side sprouts begin to form in the 'V' where the leaf stems meet the stalk and branching begins. At that point I feel free to start training. So pretty much in another week I should have roots n shoots.

I'm running 3gallons 110ppm tap water
100ppm dg grow
30-50ppm rootbastic cuz I have it...
10ml aquashield twice a week
5.7 ph