250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Doobieus

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Hey everyone, got my specs. 24" width 75" length and 64" Height..very intresting?? input needed and appreciated :smile:
The W is fine, the L is a bit long, and the height is about right.

What I would do is split the L in half that way you have 2 grow areas that are 2 ft W x about 3 ft L and little over 5 ft H. This way if you ever decide to go perpetual or want mother plants/clones you'll already be setup for that. Also cutting both the dimensions in L down will provide better reflectivity and overall you will save lumens. So it's like killing two birds with one stone.

Panda film or a piece of wood will work as a barrier/wall between the split chambers. Are those dimensions are from a closet, or a cabinet? Anyhow even if you can't afford to setup both grow areas right now, you can cut some costs by getting the gear for the first small cab. When you can afford it, you can deck out the other cab as well.

Hope this helps.
 

Doobieus

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Well i wanna get in im growin a dr.g ak 47 cross a durbain poison and a sour og im using 250w plantmax bulb in coco sensi grow and bloom a and b the dr g cross is 7 weeks veg day11 flower the dp is day 2 flower and the sour og is 9 days oldView attachment 2096675View attachment 2096678View attachment 2096679View attachment 2096680View attachment 2096681View attachment 2096682
Welcome to the club OGK, sounds like you've got a nice line up going. AK47 man that's a good smoke, and greenthumb has some dank stuff from what I've heard.

The pics aren't working?
 

mikmike

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I shall join in on this club since i just got my 250 mh/hps set up finally just built it still needs some touching up to do but waiting for my beans to come in. I need to add some internal cabinate fans to cycle air out and put some more mylar up.
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Grazzmon

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I shall join in on this club since i just got my 250 mh/hps set up finally just built it still needs some touching up to do but waiting for my beans to come in. I need to add some internal cabinate fans to cycle air out and put some more mylar up.
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Welcome Mik, nice covert setup.. I'm not a fan of Mylar though, if it was me I'd just get some flat white paint and paint everything in the cab, costs alot less and it's just as effective.. just my preference though. What strain of beans are you going to grow?

Stick around, there are some very knowledgable folks here in the club..

Grazz
 

Doobieus

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Grazzmon Danknbudder's popcorn, I'll have me some of that for movie nights lol. Filling in more and more every day, man you're gonna be stoked when you get back from vacation.

I shall join in on this club since i just got my 250 mh/hps set up finally just built it still needs some touching up to do but waiting for my beans to come in. I need to add some internal cabinate fans to cycle air out and put some more mylar up.
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Welcome Mikmike, great looking cab you've got started. What strains will you be growing out? If you ever need cheap mylar on the quick, mylar balloons, mylar blankets and mylar gift wrap work well. You could also just paint it flat white. I can't wait to see what you pull from that setup.

Looks good, definitely keep us updated. You've got a nice line up, so I definitely want to see the bud porn from this grow.
 

mikmike

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These are the seeds, just sitting in ISC New York ahh.
1x Free - 2 Free Feminized Seeds
1x Big Buddha - Blue Cheese - Feminized
1x Green House - Super Lemon Haze - Feminized
1x Green House - Bubba Kush - Feminized
1x Green House - AMS - Feminized

My grow space from net pot to cool tube is 28 inches so about 24 inch is the max so going to do be doing lst nd going to get some netting (larg holes) and try sog. going to be doing 1 plant at a time resvoir is 4 gal but i will be using 3 gal (hydro DWC) and using sensi grow A/B, aquashield, and silica blast. i know res temp needs to be about 68 (plz correct me if i am wrong anywhere) and my ph should be 5.6-5.8. Also i have a question my tap water where i live the ppm is 84 is that good or should i get RO water or is that a luxury way to go. I want to max go about 500-600 ppm in veg and get to about 900-1000 ppm for flowering. flowering i am using sensi bloom A/B, silca blast, bat guano, aquashield, and the gravity (3rd week one feeding). I also have ZHO but i dont know how often to use it so i was thinking add a little every res change?
 

Doobieus

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These are the seeds, just sitting in ISC New York ahh.
1x Free - 2 Free Feminized Seeds
1x Big Buddha - Blue Cheese - Feminized
1x Green House - Super Lemon Haze - Feminized
1x Green House - Bubba Kush - Feminized
1x Green House - AMS - Feminized

My grow space from net pot to cool tube is 28 inches so about 24 inch is the max so going to do be doing lst nd going to get some netting (larg holes) and try sog. going to be doing 1 plant at a time resvoir is 4 gal but i will be using 3 gal (hydro DWC) and using sensi grow A/B, aquashield, and silica blast. i know res temp needs to be about 68 (plz correct me if i am wrong anywhere) and my ph should be 5.6-5.8. Also i have a question my tap water where i live the ppm is 84 is that good or should i get RO water or is that a luxury way to go. I want to max go about 500-600 ppm in veg and get to about 900-1000 ppm for flowering. flowering i am using sensi bloom A/B, silca blast, bat guano, aquashield, and the gravity (3rd week one feeding). I also have ZHO but i dont know how often to use it so i was thinking add a little every res change?
Hydro DWC yields some damned impressive results. One of my grow journal partners Mind got around 10 oz's (Dry) off of one plant under his 250. I was amazed, and honestly that grow still impresses me to this day. This grow is his first grow back in a looooong time, I think his next grow will be back to the same as that epic grow. 5.5 and as long as your tap water is under 200 ppm you should be alright. Also did you let it sit 24 hours prior to testing the ppm's or not? if not you should, also remember different strains like different PPM's. Some are heavy feeders, others light and the rest somewhere between. 68F is a good temp for the res, don't go above it, it can get icky lol.

I'm no expert at hydro, I'm mainly soil. There are other members that know better than I in their experiences, I can only give you what I do know though lol.

http://www.planetnatural.com/planetnatural/images/botanicare-feed-chart.pdf

That above link is to Botanicare's feeding schedule, ZHO is at the bottom of each type of schedule and the doses from what I saw don't really change from one to another. Beneficial bacterias are good throughout the whole grow honestly, I'd go with the recommended doses, unless someone with more experience tells you other wise. I know how the bennies in ZHO work with soil, just not hydro and I'd hate to mislead.

Hope this helps.
 

Matchbox

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2 New 250'ers in 1 day lol sweeto's

Just finished my Ebb and Flow hydro setup all I need to do is a bit of research and get the medium... eventually... and I'm done!

Those are approximately 1.5 litre airpots roughly, but I figured a 6" Rockwool block cant be more than that and people use them, so it should be all good.

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Ran the system for a few hours with a mild bleach solution to clean it out, and rinsed it down thoroughly so its spotless now :)
Got an amazing pump called a Micro 350 Oxy or something and it has a little pipe on it that you leave outside the res and as it pumps it brings air into the water making tiny awesome oxygen bubbles and a hell of a lot of them XD
 

I85BLAX

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2 New 250'ers in 1 day lol sweeto's

Just finished my Ebb and Flow hydro setup all I need to do is a bit of research and get the medium... eventually... and I'm done!

Those are approximately 1.5 litre airpots roughly, but I figured a 6" Rockwool block cant be more than that and people use them, so it should be all good.

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Ran the system for a few hours with a mild bleach solution to clean it out, and rinsed it down thoroughly so its spotless now :)
Got an amazing pump called a Micro 350 Oxy or something and it has a little pipe on it that you leave outside the res and as it pumps it brings air into the water making tiny awesome oxygen bubbles and a hell of a lot of them XD
Sweet set up!!!
 

Grazzmon

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2 New 250'ers in 1 day lol sweeto's

Just finished my Ebb and Flow hydro setup all I need to do is a bit of research and get the medium... eventually... and I'm done!

Those are approximately 1.5 litre airpots roughly, but I figured a 6" Rockwool block cant be more than that and people use them, so it should be all good.

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Ran the system for a few hours with a mild bleach solution to clean it out, and rinsed it down thoroughly so its spotless now :)
Got an amazing pump called a Micro 350 Oxy or something and it has a little pipe on it that you leave outside the res and as it pumps it brings air into the water making tiny awesome oxygen bubbles and a hell of a lot of them XD
I like the Air Pots MB, as far as the medium you could probably just use a rockwool starter and fill the airpots with hydroton. I do ebb&flow and when I started I used 4" rockwool cubes, and filled my tray (abs cement mixing box) with hydroton. After harvest it was a real pita to clean because the roots were spread out and grown in to the hydroton. This grow I used rockwool starters and Hydroton in 1 gal. SmartPots, I guess your Air Pots will function just about the same as the SmartPots (air pruning the roots). One thing I see in your set up is the clear tray, you might want to paint the outside of it black to minimize the light that will hit the rez.. the light that gets through the tray will encourage algae growth in the rez.

Grazz
 

GreenGrower14

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2 New 250'ers in 1 day lol sweeto's

Just finished my Ebb and Flow hydro setup all I need to do is a bit of research and get the medium... eventually... and I'm done!

Those are approximately 1.5 litre airpots roughly, but I figured a 6" Rockwool block cant be more than that and people use them, so it should be all good.



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Ran the system for a few hours with a mild bleach solution to clean it out, and rinsed it down thoroughly so its spotless now :)
Got an amazing pump called a Micro 350 Oxy or something and it has a little pipe on it that you leave outside the res and as it pumps it brings air into the water making tiny awesome oxygen bubbles and a hell of a lot of them XD
Hey dude sweet pots but i hought ebb and flow was like flood and drain in it was supposed to flood to the top of the plants and then drain out on a cycle, will your roots be able to get water in that shallow container or are you gonna hand water untill the roots drop. Im with gazz i would start them in some RW untill they root
 

Doobieus

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Those air pots are nice for coco for sure, I've seen some crazy results online. A friend offered me one, i might have to take him up on his offer. Heard they spank smart pots, and have wanted to try them. Excited to see your results MB.
 

Matchbox

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Sweet set up!!!
Cheers man! took a while to gather the bits but it's getting there :)

One thing I see in your set up is the clear tray, you might want to paint the outside of it black to minimize the light that will hit the rez.. the light that gets through the tray will encourage algae growth in the rez.

Grazz
Yeah the plan is to do that eventually, it's not in use yet so its not urgent but I was just gonna use duct tape or put a lid on it. that'd probably do it :)
Eventually I'll have the medium and nutes ready for use, going to talk to my mate tomorrow see if he's willing to chip in for an oz or so XD

Hey dude sweet pots but i hought ebb and flow was like flood and drain in it was supposed to flood to the top of the plants and then drain out on a cycle, will your roots be able to get water in that shallow container or are you gonna hand water untill the roots drop. Im with gazz i would start them in some RW untill they root
Nah Ebb and flow and flood and drain are the same thing I think you'll find, you can have top feed ebb and flow but this isn't one of those, the principle is the pump fills the tray for 15 mins 3 times a day to water them, the roots should technically stretch to the tray, but yeah the plan is to root clones in those propagation cubes and then put in 3 or 4" cubes (pots aren't very wide), once roots are seen at the bottoms of the larger cubes I'll stick them in the airpots with the hydroton stuff, should have enough roots to reach the tray's :)

anyway enough rambling XD

u like those airpots? i hear a lot of mixed reviews on them
those airpots are awesome! the root mass you get from them is immense and plants are ridiculously healthy. The ONLY bad point about them imo is that when you water it comes all out the sides and is r8 messy XD lol

Those air pots are nice for coco for sure, I've seen some crazy results online. A friend offered me one, i might have to take him up on his offer. Heard they spank smart pots, and have wanted to try them. Excited to see your results MB.
I'm well excited too, can't wait to get it running!!

Damn I haven't had that many replies to a post in aaaaaages!

Stay Frosty guys!
 
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