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doublejj

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Most likely the same way they enforce present medical law . The providers will be monitored . I highly doubt the patient will be prosecuted .

As I've said before I'm for women's rights to control their bodies .

Let me ask a question though , are you in favor of full term abortion ? Should there be a limit or should healthy full term babies be killed ?

I was adopted as an infant so the thought sticks in my mind that in today's world there are people who would have no issue with leaving "me" to die on an operating table .
"the providers will be monitored" which means what goes on between a woman & her doctor is not private. What medical procedure between a man had his doctor is monitored?..

I'm not a Doctor. Those decisions are between a woman and her Doctor Not some politician.
 

MissinThe90’sStrains

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Healthy babies aren’t being killed after they’ve reached the stage of viability. That’s murder, and it’s not legal anywhere. The abortions that happen late-stage are babies that either will not live to full term, or that cannot survive because of extreme medical issues.

By the time that this potential situation arises. parents have already bought baby stuff and have fully planned to have that kid. No one is waiting 9 months to “kill healthy babies”. By the way, I’m a father of 2.

Edit: My wife is adopted and fully agrees.
 

Unga Bunga

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Healthy babies aren’t being killed after they’ve reached the stage of viability. That’s murder, and it’s not legal anywhere. The abortions that happen late-stage are babies that either will not live to full term, or that cannot survive because of extreme medical issues.

By the time that this potential situation arises. parents have already bought baby stuff and have fully planned to have that kid. No one is waiting 9 months to “kill healthy babies”. By the way, I’m a father of 2.

Edit: My wife is adopted and fully agrees.
Thanks for clarifying this for me . I guess we're all guilty of believing the worst and drinking a bit of the Kool Aid . Just different flavors .
 

HydoDan

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and you prove my point once again. He never said that. Full on blue kool aid propaganda. Fascinating. It’s like you know line by line every single conspiracy from the left by heart and it has become your truth.

I think I get it now. I feel bad now it’s almost not even your fault.
You're right he didn't say "drink bleach" he said "inject bleach"..
It’s like you know line by line every single conspiracy from the right by heart and it has become your truth..
Fox news or Newsmax?
 

lemondroptrichomes

Active Member
where pray tell where did RFK get his vast knowledge of Health and nutrition to make him qualified to make these determinations? He's a attorney:roll:...if you want us to believe you need to at least give us a reason.
If you’re being genuine, just listen to what he is saying. Tell me a single thing you disagree with in the statement he made or the video I just posted above. Listen to him in long form and tell me how you can be against what he is saying. Canada and Europe have banned a thousand chemicals we have in our food in the US. He wants to fix that. He is promoting ways to health that are backed by a plethora of data and science vs prescription medication that is not addressing the root cause of our health crisis in the US.

Do I agree with him on everything? No. But what we’ve been doing has not been working. The numbers do not lie.
 

wakeNbaker46

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It’s a non issue at this point on the federal level. States decide. He isn’t going to touch it.
i'm not just referring to roe v wade. there are other issues that women feel unsafe about - including some men who are calling for the 19th amendment to be repealed. i saw this shirt today, coincidentally after my original post about the guy last week saying the same. where there's smoke...
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doublejj

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If you’re being genuine, just listen to what he is saying. Tell me a single thing you disagree with in the statement he made or the video I just posted above. Listen to him in long form and tell me how you can be against what he is saying. Canada and Europe have banned a thousand chemicals we have in our food in the US. He wants to fix that. He is promoting ways to health that are backed by a plethora of data and science vs prescription medication that is not addressing the root cause of our health crisis in the US.

Do I agree with him on everything? No. But what we’ve been doing has not been working. The numbers do not lie.
Yes I watched your video and what I took from it was that Fossil fuels and there byproducts are extremely hazardous to our health and we shouldn't be exposed to them in any fashion, even to pave our roads. But i highly doubt that trump will quit accepting donations from BIG OIL over our health concerns.
 

lemondroptrichomes

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i'm not just referring to roe v wade. there are other issues that women feel unsafe about - including some men who are calling for the 19th amendment to be repealed. i saw this shirt today, coincidentally after my original post about the guy last week saying the same. where there's smoke...
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you saw a shirt? Ummmmm. Pretty sure Trump’s daughters, his wife, his new chief of staff, Tulsi Gabbard, all of the female service members, and on and on and on are not worried about something so fringe. You’re going to be fine. You’re not losing any rights.
 

lemondroptrichomes

Active Member
Yes I watched your video and what I took from it was that Fossil fuels and there byproducts are extremely hazardous to our health and we shouldn't be exposed to them in any fashion, even to pave our roads. But i highly doubt that trump will quit accepting donations from BIG OIL over our health concerns.
thats what you gathered from this?? Really? He said the Cole derived dye put into food is a problem. How are you so hung up on fighting about this?


At the end of the day, you lost. But you’re not my enemy. I hope your wife and children benefit from this ideas as much as mine do
 

doublejj

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thats what you gathered from this?? Really? He said the Cole derived dye put into food is a problem. How are you so hung up on fighting about this?


At the end of the day, you lost. But you’re not my enemy. I hope your wife and children benefit from this ideas as much as mine do
Thank you for your concerns about my welfare, I wish nothing but the best for you and yours. But please keep your politicians out of my bedroom and my Doctors office.
 

wakeNbaker46

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you saw a shirt? Ummmmm. Pretty sure Trump’s daughters, his wife, his new chief of staff, Tulsi Gabbard, all of the female service members, and on and on and on are not worried about something so fringe. You’re going to be fine. You’re not losing any rights.
all of those women you named in his direct sphere are women of extreme privilege. gabbard is the only one that could be seen as a lay person with an upbringing even remotely close to mine. go out and talk to women who don't have wealth like his daughters, family status like his CoS, extreme beauty like his wives (which is a huge social currency asset), or other such things. why is it so easy to dismiss that millions of people have fear about the precedent that he sets for how women are treated? he literally made a mockery of sexual assault, laughing about groping a woman. as someone who's literally had that EXACT scenario happen to her, and on other occasions had much worse happen, the "you're going to be fine" feels really dismissive.

now, eight years later after the infamous tape that was dismissed as "oh that's just locker room talk, don't worry!" we're seeing misogyny on open display. like, dudes are wearing tshirts in public with shit like that image, and aren't doing it ironically. maybe i was living under a rock before 2016, but i don't recall ever hearing anyone say that women shouldn't be able to vote and now it's come across my attention twice in two weeks. can you not see that the two things are related? i'm not saying trump himself wants to repeal the 19th or that he is my personal boogeyman. what i'm trying to show is that he is giving permission and setting a very low bar for how to treat women. and EVERYone with decency and integrity should be calling that out for what it is, and not giving him a free pass because you like his policies on "illegals." fringe stuff can slip into mainstream stuff in just a generation or two.
 

lemondroptrichomes

Active Member
Thank you for your concerns about my welfare, I wish nothing but the best for you and yours. But please keep your politicians out of my bedroom and my Doctors office.
the thing is, I 100% agree with you and would argue most people who voted republican that are not boomer and up (even though many boomers like my parents are in agreement with me) think the government has no business in our personal lives. I’m a huge proponent of the 4th amendment.
all of those women you named in his direct sphere are women of extreme privilege. gabbard is the only one that could be seen as a lay person with an upbringing even remotely close to mine. go out and talk to women who don't have wealth like his daughters, family status like his CoS, extreme beauty like his wives (which is a huge social currency asset), or other such things. why is it so easy to dismiss that millions of people have fear about the precedent that he sets for how women are treated? he literally made a mockery of sexual assault, laughing about groping a woman. as someone who's literally had that EXACT scenario happen to her, and on other occasions had much worse happen, the "you're going to be fine" feels really dismissive.

now, eight years later after the infamous tape that was dismissed as "oh that's just locker room talk, don't worry!" we're seeing misogyny on open display. like, dudes are wearing tshirts in public with shit like that image, and aren't doing it ironically. maybe i was living under a rock before 2016, but i don't recall ever hearing anyone say that women shouldn't be able to vote and now it's come across my attention twice in two weeks. can you not see that the two things are related? i'm not saying trump himself wants to repeal the 19th or that he is my personal boogeyman. what i'm trying to show is that he is giving permission and setting a very low bar for how to treat women. and EVERYone with decency and integrity should be calling that out for what it is, and not giving him a free pass because you like his policies on "illegals." fringe stuff can slip into mainstream stuff in just a generation or two.
I hear you.
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
Most likely the same way they enforce present medical law . The providers will be monitored . I highly doubt the patient will be prosecuted .

As I've said before I'm for women's rights to control their bodies .

Let me ask a question though , are you in favor of full term abortion ? Should there be a limit or should healthy full term babies be killed ?

I was adopted as an infant so the thought sticks in my mind that in today's world there are people who would have no issue with leaving "me" to die on an operating table .
Hi Unga, women are being arrested.

Sadly they are dying too.

Worse there are problems with getting treatment for cancer. Sometimes a pregnancy will go very wrong and even though a cardiac tube develops a developmental anomaly occurs and you get what is called a Hydatidiform Mole or a Molar pregnancy. Because her malignant tumor had a heart tube she was denied access to care:


As for late term abortion it's been illegal since at least 2003

I hope that helps and hopefully we can fix women's healthcare. Because currently women are dying.
 
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