2021 Massachusetts Outdoor Growers
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thumper60
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Do you get their updates? They have added 6 new breeders last couple weeks but limited on that stock i met them at a show last week.
thumper60
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Look into frisian dew From dutch passion, I have grown it a bunch of times out in the bush, but you need to run it indoor to pic the right one for a mother. any thing that is tall an purple toss you want the short green fat leaved ones. Its been i few yrs since i grew in the bush but it always came thur.
bgc2020
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Love Stash performed very well for me. Very minimal rot compared to the other 4 strains I grew. Next year’s garden is going to be Love Stash and Orange Stash from dragons flame genetics. Outdoor is too challenging to try growing strains that weren’t bred for it.
PioneerValleyOG
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Mmmmm, you had me until routine spraying. I try to remain as spray free as possible. I've found yellow sticky boards do amazing and yield results. My routine is constant inspection and keeping on top of ANYTHING that pops up.
I have had friends that were great growers, yet depend on sprays to control everything. Until it doesn't. I see many, many people on this site thinking BT is the be all, end all, when the only thing that BT is good for is worms or paterkillers, period. I'm not saying that I dont use a pesticide, only I use it in a wide circle around my grow area, never in my patch or in the root span.
But that's just me. I'm no guru, I'm a simple, frugal, outdoor grower. I'm here on this site to learn, not to teach, but if I can share what has worked for me here and there and it helps someone, that's the brass ring.
and g'night all.2 lady's left, 10-25-21
One of my latest successful grows in some time and abzxxs....
Warfox
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I for one will be growing more KC Brains strains next season. They are proven outdoor winners and I’ve had nothing but success with them in the past, and my friends raved about the TNR and Mango I’ve grown.
Other than KC, I cloned my best Blueberry and will probably grow her outdoors again.
Other than KC, I cloned my best Blueberry and will probably grow her outdoors again.
PioneerValleyOG
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PioneerValleyOG
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IDIOT ALERT:
That would be me. After committing to leaving my last two babies and a few dinks in the ground till Samhain, I failed miserably, but with style.
Anyone ever chop in a nor'Easter? Or do I hold a Tom Brady like record
Sure, branches and buds were wet, HOWEVER,
No wetter than a dip in a bucket if water. And back in Mendicino, I may or may not have seen a few harvests in the rain, so I really dont think it's that big of a deal.
As the man said as he swallowed poison hemlock, 'looks like we'll find out soon enough.'
In other complicated matters, my curing is all messed up, since my basement flooded in the july rains, destroyed two freezers, a washer, dryer, and birthed mold, has sent me into the attic space. Which has 60% but much higher at night. It's been a week or so up there, I gotta get busy soon. Crusty outside, spongy inside, and ready to trim I hope. May take longer than 9-10 days with the chunky munky sized ones, I'm sure. Ti add to that, I turned the furnace on last night for the first time. Sure that's a game changer. Gonna go check my humidity now. Soon.
Right after this jibber.
That would be me. After committing to leaving my last two babies and a few dinks in the ground till Samhain, I failed miserably, but with style.
Anyone ever chop in a nor'Easter? Or do I hold a Tom Brady like record
Sure, branches and buds were wet, HOWEVER,
No wetter than a dip in a bucket if water. And back in Mendicino, I may or may not have seen a few harvests in the rain, so I really dont think it's that big of a deal.
As the man said as he swallowed poison hemlock, 'looks like we'll find out soon enough.'
In other complicated matters, my curing is all messed up, since my basement flooded in the july rains, destroyed two freezers, a washer, dryer, and birthed mold, has sent me into the attic space. Which has 60% but much higher at night. It's been a week or so up there, I gotta get busy soon. Crusty outside, spongy inside, and ready to trim I hope. May take longer than 9-10 days with the chunky munky sized ones, I'm sure. Ti add to that, I turned the furnace on last night for the first time. Sure that's a game changer. Gonna go check my humidity now. Soon.
Right after this jibber.
PioneerValleyOG
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Bcg, you recommend Dragon Flame Genetics as a reliable source for true genetics? Along with Dark Horse and North Atlantic seeds, if asked I guess those 3 will be the ones I suggest.
It seems a lot of Blueberry grows well around here, in ME as well.
I will have my hands full with your blessings this spring, will be seeking advice come Feb-Mar 4 sure.
It seems a lot of Blueberry grows well around here, in ME as well.
I will have my hands full with your blessings this spring, will be seeking advice come Feb-Mar 4 sure.
Kerowacked
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Weigh a bud twice/day til it stops losing weight.IDIOT ALERT:
That would be me. After committing to leaving my last two babies and a few dinks in the ground till Samhain, I failed miserably, but with style.
Anyone ever chop in a nor'Easter? Or do I hold a Tom Brady like record
Sure, branches and buds were wet, HOWEVER,
No wetter than a dip in a bucket if water. And back in Mendicino, I may or may not have seen a few harvests in the rain, so I really dont think it's that big of a deal.
As the man said as he swallowed poison hemlock, 'looks like we'll find out soon enough.'
In other complicated matters, my curing is all messed up, since my basement flooded in the july rains, destroyed two freezers, a washer, dryer, and birthed mold, has sent me into the attic space. Which has 60% but much higher at night. It's been a week or so up there, I gotta get busy soon. Crusty outside, spongy inside, and ready to trim I hope. May take longer than 9-10 days with the chunky munky sized ones, I'm sure. Ti add to that, I turned the furnace on last night for the first time. Sure that's a game changer. Gonna go check my humidity now. Soon.
Right after this jibber.
PioneerValleyOG
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Seriously? Makes sense to me
Kerowacked
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If i start with a fresh 30g bud, it loses nearly 10g the first day at 60°/60%. When its down to a gram weight loss in a day, usually 5-7 days, its ready to cure. A day too soon you get mold, a day too late it dries and won’t cure.
PioneerValleyOG
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Ok so let me ask this, obviously its high humidity. Storms coming thru, should I pull down in higher or lower humidity? Would it make a difrence? My daytime is 50-60, night time is very high 80s and up.
bgc2020
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I’ve bought seeds from Mephisto Genetics, Night Owl Seeds (via Seed Bazaar), Wicked Pissah Seeds, Great Lakes Genetics, DC Seed Exchange, Dojo Seed Co, and Dragons Flame Genetics. Not a single bad experience with any of them. Some of those are breeders selling their own seeds and others are banks with multiple breeders in their line up. DFG currently ranks as my favorite based on my 1st and only grow season outdoors. Most of the DFG strain discriptions mention things like “highly resistant” and “doesn’t mind shitty wet weather”.Bcg, you recommend Dragon Flame Genetics as a reliable source for true genetics? Along with Dark Horse and North Atlantic seeds, if asked I guess those 3 will be the ones I suggest.
It seems a lot of Blueberry grows well around here, in ME as well.
I will have my hands full with your blessings this spring, will be seeking advice come Feb-Mar 4 sure.
PioneerValleyOG
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Now that's a lot if homework
Kerowacked
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Just a slower dry at higher humidity, the main thing is how much moisture they have left going in the jar, over 65% in the jar is too much.
I grow in central massachusetts and I've run into a problem I'm hoping you can enlighten me on.
This season was okay but not great with bud rot for me. So naturally I'd like to find strains that are acclimatized better for my region. In searching out these strains I often find mold resistant and early flowering which is perfect for me (suggestions always welcome as well) - however - in my limited experience growing, I could get 5 northern lights seeds and 5 different northern lights plants would grow (within reason but you know what I mean). Basically, with the amount of variation in the genetics still, even within the same strain, is it a fools errand looking for that one strain that is going to work 9/10 times? Because 4 out of your 5 seeds could act differently than how they're described. Or more the mindset, grow what you want to grow - maybe you get a seed from a strain not known for flowering early that does flower early for you..something along those lines - am I making sense to anyone? Haha cheers
This season was okay but not great with bud rot for me. So naturally I'd like to find strains that are acclimatized better for my region. In searching out these strains I often find mold resistant and early flowering which is perfect for me (suggestions always welcome as well) - however - in my limited experience growing, I could get 5 northern lights seeds and 5 different northern lights plants would grow (within reason but you know what I mean). Basically, with the amount of variation in the genetics still, even within the same strain, is it a fools errand looking for that one strain that is going to work 9/10 times? Because 4 out of your 5 seeds could act differently than how they're described. Or more the mindset, grow what you want to grow - maybe you get a seed from a strain not known for flowering early that does flower early for you..something along those lines - am I making sense to anyone? Haha cheers
PioneerValleyOG
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Sounds as if your seed supplier is providing white label seeds to you. In this thread you will see seed banks that are tried and true with authentic breeders and genetics.
I could be wrong, but 5 dif seeds= 5 dif NL, sounds like mixed genetics? Bcg is my go-to expert guy when it comes to these issues. He most likely can help. Look back on 54,55,56 and watch the Dark Horse video about the sewage pit seed banks have become.
bgc2020
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shit I’m an expert now?! Thanks for the compliment but I’ve only been growing since March 2020 so hopefully my suggestions don’t steer anyone in the wrong direction. But I’m happy to share any knowledge of the seed buying market I have accumulated over this short time.Sounds as if your seed supplier is providing white label seeds to you. In this thread you will see seed banks that are tried and true with authentic breeders and genetics.
I could be wrong, but 5 dif seeds= 5 dif NL, sounds like mixed genetics? Bcg is my go-to expert guy when it comes to these issues. He most likely can help. Look back on 54,55,56 and watch the Dark Horse video about the sewage pit seed banks have become.
Got the seeds from The Real Seed Co. Collected from Tirah Maidan (Valley), Pakistan, a tribal
area about 30 miles SW of Khyber Pass -
This region is along the 33rd parallel, which the cannabis eggheads view as some sort of demarcation line between what people typically call Sativas and Indicas. I’m beginning to agree with the more progressive eggheads who don’t think such cut and dried classifications really apply - I figured I’d get more Indica looking plants but they all have long nodes and are very tall and rangy. As far as shade goes I can report the mosquitos were very appreciative that I made a jungle for them to hang out in this year.
This plant actually grew by herself with fat colas on the ends quickly diminishing to almost nothing closer to the main stem - like lollipops. I yanked yellow leaves but did nothing else. Some critter chomped her top back in June so her main stem ended about six feet up. She still shot branches up to 12 feet. The other Tirah all had more typical growth along the branches. Only trimming was done down close to the ground by wascally wabbits, at first I was aggravated but they actually did me a service by keeping things clear near the ground.
I harvested by cutting branches and then recutting them to separate the plump stuff from the less dense parts. The plump stuff will be cured as flower as she has a grape/allfruit jelly aroma that I think will make some nice bud, and the rest will go up in the attic to dry with the other plants until the winter to make dry sift hash. I selectively pollinated and repro’d seeds from the two male Tirah I grew, one of them was a similar red branched plant so I hope the progeny end up like their mom. Which I will find out whenever I get around to growing this strain again, as I have the following awaiting the next decade or three in the freezer: Kabul, Mazar-i-Sharif, Sholgar, Rustam Kush, Rabat, Tashqurghan and an mix of four varietals all from Afghanistan, plus Kumaoni and Rasoli from the Indian Himalaya, more of these Tirah plus some collected from different fields there, plus my own repros of Balkh, Afghani and South Waziristani from Pakistan that I made last year…pretty much set for life lol
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