LOL... you guys rock! Kinda sad that everything seems cheaper over on your end Capt Jaz... Dbkick, I am fully prepared to do demo if i have to (but minimal is always better). Thankfully, I have a very supportive hubby who lets me do whatever makes me happy... and he knows pot makes me happy. LOL... that and I think he realizes that in the long run, growing my own will ultimately save him a lot more money... Again, it's almost overwhelming how many options there are for everything... Lol, starting with reg, fem, auto-flower seeds, and then what medium, lighting, cooling, ventilation, co2... so many things... I want my next set up to have everything I need to be successful, but nothing thats unnecessary