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    Atheism Anyone?

    the more interesting question and the more telling would be why we choose atheism. the rational atheist must realize just how irrational it is to baldly claim "there is no god" in the face of overwhelming consensus. more often than not it is a case such as your own, a rebellion against our...
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    Don't Drink the Water

    a calmer population, just what the doctor ordered. they've been feeding us this half-assed social engineering for years. lights colored to induce a calming effect, color schemes to do the same, additives in everything to supposedly make us healthier, nanny-state laws to protect us from...
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    Hallelujah!

    this has to be one of the greatest paragraphs ever written on these boards or any other. we have all felt this way at one time or another about some fool that completely lacks any redeeming qualities. i'm going to copy this down and use it from time to time, it so perfectly sums up the...
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    I Can't Argue With That... Debate This Part 2

    i don't see why it has to get ugly. it would seem a very straight forward question, with very little against the idea. as much as i believe that all drugs should be legal for the consumption of responsible adults, i also realize that it is a luxury. anyone who believes that the taxpayer...
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    Hallelujah!

    seems we have yet another thread dedicated to confusing the unions of the private sector with those that suckle off the taxpayer's teat. i realize it may be difficult for some people to differentiate between the two, so i've devised a very simple test for those of you who are having a problem...
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    Food management.

    at heart, most of us know that we cannot trust to the good intentions of our government. an argument that can be made to allow government to feed us can also be made to clothe us, house us and monitor our daily lives in myriad ways. even the most rabidly naive statist balks at such...
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    Religions, Archaic Relics Of The Past?

    i've never claimed that there was a better method of investigating the world around us. i only wish to point out that our cynicism should point its critical eye at the conclusions of science just as aggressively as at the outrageous claims of religion. no matter what instrumentation may be...
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    Religions, Archaic Relics Of The Past?

    that creatures evolve is certainly no hoax. even in the limited span of man's experience we have witnessed the actions of natural selection and the effects that random chance and mutation have upon the world around us. the only hoaxes involved in evolutionary theory are most often those of...
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    I Just Don't Get It

    last week i was house-sitting for some folks that subscribe to various pay channels and i got curious late one night, so i took a peek at the lady gaga concert playing on hbo. can someone please tell me what the attraction is in this worthless piece of shit. as i watched with a certain morbid...
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    Hitler Was A Leftist

    isn't it amazing how closely your definition of anarchy resembles that of rampant democracy. both demand an enlightened population to curb their own baser instincts or some other limiting force to keep the majority from victimizing the minority.
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    The Rapture Live Stream!

    i will still be waiting patiently for the appointed hour to roll around. wouldn't it be wonderful to actually witness the end of the world.
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    Religions, Archaic Relics Of The Past?

    science does not exist outside of the human condition. its facts may exist without us, but those are not science. science is the means we use to discover those facts and is as effected by our humanity as any of our other endeavors. your claim that it is self-correcting is still dependent on...
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    Religions, Archaic Relics Of The Past?

    not only can it be said of any philosophy or religion, it is also true of any cause or anything at all that people feel deeply enough about. the attempts to spread democracy around the world have resulted in countless deaths, but we haven't consigned it to the trash heap. the great socialist...
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    Religions, Archaic Relics Of The Past?

    i can't even begin to count the number of times i've heard this same sort of attack on religion, but it is impossible to name any of man's endeavors that are not plagued by the same sorts of corruption. you attempt to hold religion to a higher standard and you still fail miserably in your...
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    Today is the Day We Hit the Debt Ceiling

    don't you think we should have rethought our strategy the first time or the second or even the fiftieth?
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    Religions, Archaic Relics Of The Past?

    that's because those ideas represent a basic need within the people these religions serve. order, a sense that there is justice and a reason for our existence are earthly desires that religions have always fulfilled for the masses. throughout history we have watched every form of secular...
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    Religions, Archaic Relics Of The Past?

    this may, in most cases, very well be true. through reason and experimentation we may be able to answer many of the questions that are addressed by religion, but just what percentage of the world's population do you think is really capable of going through the steps necessary to reach those...
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    Tired of the 2 parties that do nothing but take?

    and that preemptive strategy has just been doing so well for us, hasn't it. the nanny-state mentality has created more problems than it has solved and helped to drive american industry into the toilet. when given the chance, governmental bureaucracy will always take things too far and that's...
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    And Another reason to pass Horticulture only for the People of California in 2012

    this has to be a first. jo, seca, red and i all agreeing on something on the same page. could this mean the end of the world is at hand? if med chimes in, i'll be certain of it.
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    And Another reason to pass Horticulture only for the People of California in 2012

    the early success of his rather lopsided polls gave him all the encouragement he needed to consider his message well received. y'all can't say you weren't warned. both dan and i were pointing out the flaws in his logic from the beginning, but he just seemed to consider us a minor irritation in...
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