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Thanks for the great post wetdog! Gona check all of them out! Exactly my point with the $60 v $3, its just stupidity, imo its sad to even be recommending others to buy a extortionate-priced product. I would also rather not have a room full of unwanted products, if I switch over my

Wow nice, I usually keep mine around 8", didnt know they was still as effective that high up.

Point proven x2 lol. Cannot see how VegasWinner has to audacity to quote $500. Im going to use cobkits.com and some other sites to get a up to date price list for a 200W built, wouldnt mind betting it comes in at around $200 - $230.

In the UK its alot more, for an 8oz packed it works out to $60. Thats a massive amount of money when a $2 substitue can be used. Sad thing is most of these companies can only overprice these items because of what we are using them for. Remove buds from the scenario, If people were growing...

Il take alook at the Soap Nuts and Chesnut powder. Im already aware of the Yucca Extract, its expensive imo, especially compared to washing up liquid at around $2 a bottle

never heard of it, will research it now. Would be good to hear if anybody using it can comment on how good it is.

So it seems you are joking... a 200W cob rig does not cost min $500, stop talking rubbish, it really makes it look like you are advertising other peoples products. You can build a 200W cob build for under $300, not $500... Are you using prices from CREE CXA from 3 years ago to try to save...

The Shurb colas look fatter under the cobs than the thcbomb under QB, is that because of genetics/flowering delays etc?

I recall seeing some people using a small amount of washing up liquid as a wetting agent. I know this ir the organic section, and most W.U.L are probably not organic, but im wondering does this work, and if so perhaps there is a W.U.L which consists of organic ingredients. It seem the current...

That really sucks to hear. I looked into it too but seemed like there where too many bigfish miners to comete with, did you manage to break even? Can you not use it with another coin? Also, your using a 5 ton chiller? wat the heck? How many lights are you planning to use? or is this for...

Ok thanks for the pic. As it a blurple fixture, you might get away with keeping the distance lower as in later stages, I was talking earlier about raising the light in the initial seedling stages because I thought you was using COBs, COB leds tend to make the leaves warp. As for the where to...

Why did you get figures like $5000? it would cost nowhere near such amount. You must be joking? Did Chilled also give you a job? You can DIY with cobs at same wattages as prebuilt kits for MUCH MUCH cheaper.

That sounds perfect then, just raise light slightly higher in very early stages. Btw, what fixture do you have?

Dont see why you couldnt use your led from seedling? One thing I do advise is raising it slightly higher in the very early stages of seedlings - the leafs tend to twist and warp badly using LEDS. After around 2 weeks you can lower the LEDS. Also you should probably lower the power of the LED...

The problem is it isnt always the rider. I also just remembers the guy who I reffering to as "all barring one" did have an accident, got knocked off by a joy rider in a ford escort and ended up in the news paper.

What model Citi are they? 1212?

Pretty much everybody I know with a bike barring 1 person has had bad accident(s), then end up stop riding them. Your story sounds very familiar.

Cobs are definitely the way to go as mentioned above, however rather than buying prebuilt fixtures, why not just build your own and save over half your money?

If you are going to buy one, do not get the dremel lol... Whilst what Jelly said is true, its nothing in comparison if you actually research what the true hobby users say.

@Rasta Roy Will definitely check that out, never used it before.