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that is not the best example of a stealthy rubbermaid but anyway read my last post here...

If you must go with something super small might I suggest a speaker? You can get them much larger then a pc case but small enough to not really be noticeable and you can even make them functional. Either way a Rubbermaid would be much better and obviously a cabinet with hps lights would be a lot...

a few pvc pipes and coats of paint and a rubbermaid box is almost 100% light proof

I only think a pc grow box would be preferable in a very small percentage of situations based on the potential yields you can get. BTW you can light proof a rubbermaid grow box.

This not absolutely essential to post but I thought Id make a quick point for absolute newbies out there. While I haven't started my first grow just yet my box is done and I have been researching for well over a year now and I thought Id make this one suggestion. If you got limited space and...

Will do. The prices are awesome btw so if this all pans out i'lll keep ordering there or their sister site the single seed center.

From Castle seeds in response to me asking if they knew where my order is:

Yeah man for one plant thats awesome,I can only hope I do half as well.

I think you people who know of great strains out there without seeds should try to breed them and sell some seeds.

While I'm glad you liked them unless we can still get them it kinda doesn't matter. Whats your favorite strain currently available from a seedbank?

im going to ,always intended to but for my first grow Im going to use just one all the way through.

Wow man that beautiful,think ill have to grow some after my WW.

Yes when life gives you males make some damn fine seeds!

Yeah i figured what Id do is grow one female plant to the point where i could take clones then veg them for a week and add them in. I don't know man Id rather go LST then scrog,its easier. Will scrog make for a better yield over lst?

While that is true of many people I have studied enough to know that MANY other people start off with 18/6.

Might be worth keeping to save $$$ on seeds though or to cross something...

Yeah pretty sure its male,sucks man....Hope i don't have the same problem with my WW.

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SNES games are still the bomb. You could always torrent it if you can't find a copy.

So I was going to make this whole set up bigger but things fell through so now I'm just going to start out with that 2 stacked rubbermaid grow box with cfls you've probably seen a thousand times,got most of the material and have been working on it a few days btw,but now I'm left wondering with...