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I dont buy into root bound plants. I grow 12/12 from seed in 1 gallon pots and yield 2-4 ounces each. Not saying it doesnt exist just saying I have never seen it.

Dude its called morals and integrity. I will not buy or sell garbage pot for the sake of a couple dollars. I would never sell uncured bud because the people I know can tell the difference. I dont deal with kids that are happy just to find some pot.

See how you spin shit to suit your purpose? I never said anything negative about Sub. I said Sub grows with HIDs. Sub and everyone else known in the industry. See I am dogging LEDs and you are dogging me. I dont care about graphs or your insults or what light a human eye can see. You still...

Dont listen to the guys that say you cant flower with a T5. Heres mine at 5 weeks.

Dude there is alot of stuff you havent seen but you still talk about it. Im done with this thread. My bottom line is this, ALL of the most well known growers in the world whether they have been growing for 5 years or 50 use HIDs and that is no coincedence. I will give you LEDs are par tuned...

I will go watch the sports channel for an hour or so and that may give you enough time to find one somewhere.

Can you give me a link or 2 for a g/ watt with leds? The only weight I could find in the thread you showed me was a wet weight from a perpetual type grow.

You are right bro. And about 5 people agree with you.

Yeah I have read all that bullshit in LED sales ads. Have you found a reputable grower that uses them yet? I havent. If its all about spectrum why does every book, article or video stress lumens and light penetration? Why isnt anyone using them in the mainstream? Why are there a thousand...

I know bro I was making a funny.

Sub says he likes the spectrum? Who cares? Ask ole Subcool what he grows with. You sound wayyyyy less intelligent trying to defend LEDs over real grow lights. EVERYBODY in the industry says they dont have the intensity to be a viable option for flowering except the people that sell em.

Not sure that a pc case would quite qualify as a "room" but nice lil box and oddly enough I believe that is $100. But then again you dont have 6 30" plants in your $100 room so maybe you are lying and it only cost you $30 LMAO.

The technology has been proven for years. LEDs make awesome flashlights and DVD player buttons.

It is amazing to me that you can have 200 people have amazing grows with a strain and then a guy that doesnt even have a single succesful grow under their belt will completely shit on a company without ever considering that they just dont know how to grow. Lets take Killing Fields for an...

Hows this for a test? Open any issue of High Times and show me one well know grower or breeder that is using an LED.

And it gets even better.... We still have people that believe the bullshit LED companies are trying to sell? A 420w LED couldnt wipe a 1k hps's ass let alone replace it.

Who told you that? If that was the case we wouldnt need to answer stupid questions over and over again we could just say buy decent gentics and watch em grow. The ignorance of these people is killing me. Furthur more if its all about genetics how come we have threads asking whats the worst...

Yes you can grow plants with cfls. You can also bust a nut by jerking off but I prefer to have a pussy to make it BETTER.

I guess if it wasnt for the shitbags us awesome fuckers would just be normal old growers.

The more the merrier. Just to give an example I run 95,000 lumens in a 46" by 30" box.