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And I am afraid that radiometric figures if not available don't mean you just trash the more lumens figures... At least I ain't going to do it:o

Snoot....dont be so sure about it;) The concept of using a color mix to achieve high CRI and high efficacy in warm-white SSL products came originally from Cree in the True White products. More recently, Osram Opto Semiconductors has supported the concept with its Brilliant Mix technology. "In...

Mmmmmmmmmmm...... So what determines that oslons have that particular characteristic even given it's high CRI

So more lm is more lm.... Whether you convert them or not... Right? Now, that's more efficient Ahahah or not :D

Well if you think that you should go back to monochromatic til they work on specific white diodes for plants Ahahah:D

You are prob talking about the more red (thus more efficient for your green girls) .. Well I don't know about that I suppose you are the mad scientist eheh (no offence, I am mad too) But do your conclusions come from the graphs or they do actually employ e different tech for their WW? green...

Are you saying that 89lms are more efficient than 131lms because the tech employed by osrams gives out more efficiency? :o :o

Well SDS, I know they have nothing to do with growing how can I argue with that:D But all the news and cree and articles when they go like: "Breaking news, cree releases a more efficient white (more lumens for the same watts)" How can you argue with that too:D They are more efficient..... No? :D

Yep, i went like: :o :o :o :o when yesterday I saw HPs being around 20 for CRI! CRI is basically how much a given luminary resemble the one it wants to imitate/replicate Osram did a line of diodes for horticultural, it'll be nice they work on a warm white eheheh

Anyway.. This is all good. Thanks to anyone contributing on this, sts and everybody. Green surfer, great work with your experiments, I can't rep you as I have to spread it around first (bah)

Radiometric figures are much more accurate yes, but we'll have to do with lm's for when are not available? Do you know also that that is indicative anyway, do you have a spectroradiometer? That's the only way, coz sometimes they don't correspond (osrams are"quite" accurate as from what knna...

Also sts, you can't compare them with that general graph from cree, those xte come in different tints.. There's a 2700 one too as there's a 10000k one for cool whites.. And the thing is, all of them are nor that super accurate unfortunately! Til some instruments or clearer graphs (rebels have...

Yrs STS, but apart from a spectrum that you account as better one, 131lm vs 89lm is a no brain for efficiency? More lm's more photons more energy for the plant to utilise I love osrams but if they don't make available those higher bins or release more efficient ones.. I am sadly doing without...

Subbed up for sure!!

It'd be nice one could just wipe on them from time to time eh eh eh

Its more quality and more peace of mind yeah, your start goes "pro", never heard anyone complaining about their customer service either! With cidly you go cheaper directly to manufacture and if all goes smooth can play with the toy for a year or two and then decide your next move!

Cree LEDs; one of the top notch led companies. A51 employs them on their latest panel, highest bins which is more photons for the same power (watts). Cidly employs China make LEDs which they are getting better and better but they are "followers" of the big brands. One diode from China vs one...

Redzone Cidly would do good to you most likely Only problem is if you run into failing diodes, they surely will be keen on supporting you as long as you are willing to ship to China probably at your own cost! Or they might ship you new driver/LEDs but you'll have to mount it yourself (easy for...

Bro dawg That's really exciting news am looking forward to see them in action

Greensanta Nice looking meds as usual! Interested in your new mixes with new amendments I'll keep an eye on when you start using it