Bargain was a poor choice of words but supporting Ukrain isn't "offering up" Ukrainians to die.
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laddyd
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I'd say that's pretty chewed up.
BudmanTX
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yeah i'm wondering that as well, how does it end.....for me honestly it's a difficult question, and there is honestly no really set path tbh....a pause will only allow Pooty to redo his ranks, fill some voids, his war machine will keep going to replace what is lost.....the pause will also allow Ukraine to beef up it's air defence, and the defence along the lines of contact.......Does Ukraine get accepted into the EU? later on go to NATO? Will someone stop Pooty and his idea of bringing the USSR back? idk
compassionateExotic
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are u a Russian bot cause no way would I let Russia take over, if they do it will def be more mass death to Ukraine’s and bad for rest of world also. It’s easy if u aren’t them to be like , yo just let the Russians do it, end the war? It’s an invasion and they are the victim. Same example as someone breaks into ur house and try’s to kill u and Instead of defending or fighting the invader you invite them in and let them take over ur house and make sure u don’t call 9/11. russia is 110% in wrong just like trump by really trying to do anything he can to fuck over anyone who Putin wants. If I was Ukraine I would make it very clear “ it’s not just us if Russia invades Ukraine the end results in future ” . Did Germany only invade Poland and be done In ww2?
How about Russia realizes its world vs them and they have no rights to Ukraine , it’s not theres and what they have done already is mass death exp on Russians side. People need to realize once Russia if they got ukraine woild that be the end? Hell no it’s one step to more greed and more country attacks . who invaded who and who’s protecting their own country from mass murder and destruction ? Ukraine . Trump thought he was a gangster by offering not even a cement plan or cease by giving all their resources lol hell no
Same crap for so many “wars” in ww2 who waited till millions died and our judgment was to bomb with a nuke ? USA , so maybe if we pulled our heads out of asses and looked at history world def needs to be involved in it’s obvious world issues and not allow Russia and many other bad leaders to even be able to play this game cause it def can stir the medium of what goes down, if they nipped this on butt when Russia first invaded by accepting Ukraine in nato or said u step any more into Ukraine equals the mass of world against Russia and a invasion on them than maybe russia def woild of stopped there and be done, wasn’t this was suppose to be a “trial” and not a invasion
if I was a Russian citzen I would run to Ukraine and fight with them exp if I was a solider . U know it’s bad when they force the soldiers in and no training and force them witjout training and if they don’t they will killl or put in jail. That’s not a country I would support and compared to Ukraine where they def are willing and going up and beyond to fight Russia , shoot even other country citizens joined. There’s nothing positive about letting Putin and Russia go further or giving up cause it def will have out of Ukraine outcomes and also a perm impact . Fuck Russia ( putin/gov) plain and simple
I'd like a peace deal, before Russia uses a tactical nuke.
BudmanTX
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i hear ya, i would like one too, but what's the cost? Will Putin go back to the orginal borders, will they pay reperations, will they go to the Hague for trial.....here is my guess "NO", now will Pooty and the Russian use nukes, tbh no one really know for sure that they're nukes are at the readiness, especially with all the corruption that the Russian military has.....to me that's just saber rattling....and also that Ork missile they fired one time, did ya know they fired a second one, it didn't make it blew up on Russian soil, did you also know that another missile that they were gonna shoot blew up in the silo....
Nugnewbie
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Russia Says Trump’s Foreign Policy ‘Largely Aligns With Our Vision’
Trump’s “political will” could quickly improve the U.S.’ relationship with Russia, the Kremlin suggested.
www.forbes.com
compassionateExotic
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natureboygrower
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I'd say Kyiv independents estimates are hugely inflated as well. Why wouldn't they be..
According to a BBC news article that came out Feb 23 2025, Russian desth estimates could reach 234k at the highest, with some estimates at 146k being the lowest.
BudmanTX
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idk considering its been a 1k death per day on average....over 30day, that would be 30k and times that by 12 months...360K now times that by 3yrs , just over a million....tbh we really don't know the true numbers and we prolly never will...and this is just on the Russian side, ration number are 10 russian to 1 ukrainian, and that being conservative
during the start of the war estimates on the first part of the invasion were 600k, first call up numbers 300k and it's been dropping since then
Nugnewbie
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All of the felons flaky diplomacy will probably get the world closer to ww3 than anything. Just a thought from an armchair pundit who doesn't ever want to be ruled by blatantly corrupt fascists. (just like Volodymyr Zelensky and his countrymen don't want to be)
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BudmanTX
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that orange asshole....
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