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tip top toker

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reddvega said:
using co2 most say 1500 in a sealed room but to me thats entirely to high...i would say anywhere from 900-1100 and at night 400 at max
with fresh air... its hard to say depends on rooms size amount of fresh air and air exchange...co2 was mainly used for grow rooms with poor ventilation
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How can you say it's entirely too high if you'#ve never used co2 supplementation? You are basing your argument from a position of ignorance. Not smart.

reddvega said:
so 10 100w bulbs burns the same amount of electric as a 1000w hps?
the reason people pay for leds is they are cheaper to run less heat and imo more effective
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1000w is 1000w. I'm not sure what you're asking.

LED's are not cheaper to run. a 600w LED uses the same as a 600w hps. The key is in the figure "600w. People say they are cheaper to run based on a point of reference. They might find them cheaper to run due to their bud output, or the efficiency of a bulb, but the simple statement LED's are cheaper to run is absolute hogwash. A watt is a watt no matter how you slice it.
 
yktind

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tip top toker said:
How can you say it's entirely too high if you'#ve never used co2 supplementation? You are basing your argument from a position of ignorance. Not smart.



1000w is 1000w. I'm not sure what you're asking.

LED's are not cheaper to run. a 600w LED uses the same as a 600w hps. The key is in the figure "600w. People say they are cheaper to run based on a point of reference. They might find them cheaper to run due to their bud output, or the efficiency of a bulb, but the simple statement LED's are cheaper to run is absolute hogwash. A watt is a watt no matter how you slice it.
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....Unless it is a 600w equivalent. Key word is equivalent though.
 
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yktind said:
....Unless it is a 600w equivalent. Key word is equivalent though.
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Then it is not a 600w light. But it is altogether irrelevant. He is stating that LED's are cheaper to run. How can they be cheaper to run? A watt is a watt. There is not a separate unit price if it's an LED using the power.
 
yktind

yktind

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tip top toker said:
Then it is not a 600w light. But it is altogether irrelevant. He is stating that LED's are cheaper to run. How can they be cheaper to run? A watt is a watt. There is not a separate unit price if it's an LED using the power.
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Yep. Not arguing that. Electric Company charges the same for KWH rather its LED, TV, HPS, MH Oven. Still a Killa Watt Hour. Usually CFL's and LED's are Equivalent.

I have a true 150 watt CFl and the thing is giant. Equal to IDK I'll have to look it up.
 
SirGreenThumb

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woody333333 said:
lets see your led buds youre so proud of...lol.....
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Here is an HPS bud that I'm smoking on right now. Bagseed, so strain is unknown. Its had around 1.5w cure so far. Smells of spicy pine and smoke is smooth with a dank taste. No coughing from this chick, and she puts off a nice laid back stone. She actually helped me get through some pretty horrid after pain from a root canal.
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woody333333

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SirGreenThumb said:
Here is an HPS bud that I'm smoking on right now. Bagseed, so strain is unknown. Its had around 1.5w cure so far. Smells of spicy pine and smoke is smooth with a dank taste. No coughing from this chick, and she puts off a nice laid back stone. She actually helped me get through some pretty horrid after pain from a root canal.
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what I can see of it looks good........looks like it gets thicker to the right of the pic
 
SirGreenThumb

SirGreenThumb

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woody333333 said:
what I can see of it looks good........looks like it gets thicker to the right of the pic
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Just a small popcorn bud. I'm happy with it, its a lot better than the stuff I've bought lately.

Have 2 more weeks for the harvest of my pineapple express. I'm excited.
 
a mongo frog

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reddvega said:
using co2 most say 1500 in a sealed room but to me thats entirely to high...i would say anywhere from 900-1100 and at night 400 at max
with fresh air... its hard to say depends on rooms size amount of fresh air and air exchange...co2 was mainly used for grow rooms with poor ventilation
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This guy lost all credibility with this post. "At night 400 max" haaaaahaaaa, please say u were joking. Please just say it. Pretty please just say u were joking. Haaaahaaaa, that. Was a funny joke dude.
 
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a mongo frog said:
This guy lost all credibility with this post. "At night 400 max" haaaaahaaaa, please say u were joking. Please just say it. Pretty please just say u were joking. Haaaahaaaa, that. Was a funny joke dude.
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Surely if he were in a plane jane regular grow room, then he is either stating that his plants don't get more than 400 ppm of co2 at any point (how can he regulate the co2 in regular air?) and he is well below the 1500 mark, thereby contradicting his point of not not seeing a point in co2 enrichment for his grow, or his co2 is indeed at the 1500 mark, and his plants are getting massively overdosed with co2 at night.

What is the change in co2 ppm in regular air between night and day?
 
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reddvega

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how do i post pictures on here i'll show you what i got growing right now...and who said i use leds 2 flower?imo they are more effective for indoor grows far as energy and cooling and make a perfect clone/veg room and my flowering area is hps....
 
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tip top toker

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reddvega said:
how do i post pictures on here i'll show you what i got growing right now...and who said i use leds 2 flower?imo they are more effective for indoor grows far as energy and cooling and make a perfect clone/veg room and my flowering area is hps....
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That's not what I asked ;) What are your co2 readings given that you see no use in co2 enrichment in your grow due to the abundance of fresh air.
 
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