Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

Trousers

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Good luck trying to find orgainic bottled nutes. All those companies lie. Liquid karma is the only true organic nute in a bottle.
liquid karma says it is not suitable for organic food production in CA. I have some and use it in a foliar spray.
 

Javadog

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EDIT: And trying to find all the stuff needed for the soil mixes you guys make, it's getting really expensive! Hurting my pocket big time. And my back wowaaaa... Can't find most of it anyhow. Crab meal, alfalfa meal, feather meal, neem meal, none of that stuff is available to me at all.
Hey Mad,

More and more I am thinking towards making as many of
these things as I can, and towards identifying effective
alternatives that I can manufacture for the remainder.

Along these lines, all shrimp and egg shells are now being
collected at my house.

I am, or will be planting, Comfrey and other beneficial plants.

I am making worms and they are making shit. :0)

Neem oil...well, there I am stuck, but Aloe is certainly plentiful.

There should be a sticky on this topic.

JD
 

Mad Hamish

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Hey Mad,

More and more I am thinking towards making as many of
these things as I can, and towards identifying effective
alternatives that I can manufacture for the remainder.

Along these lines, all shrimp and egg shells are now being
collected at my house.

I am, or will be planting, Comfrey and other beneficial plants.

I am making worms and they are making shit. :0)

Neem oil...well, there I am stuck, but Aloe is certainly plentiful.

There should be a sticky on this topic.

JD
JD, this is also my mission! I want to find the alternatives, test them, produce them, get the soil mixes 100 percent, and then move into distributing them across my country. One thing I feel is sorely needed here, is a GOOD canna-oriented soil mix in a bag. Something a noob can buy, put a plant in, and get great results with every time without needing to add anything but water. Prices for good reefer here are absolutely ridiculous considering average incomes. When I visit people or go to concerts or throw my own events, I get offered a lot of doobies to toke with people. They are all toothpick size these days, and I think THAT is a crime. I am an insomniac, so throwing my head behind studying organics has not affected my free time, but this is not true for most people I know. Reefer needs to be liberated a bit more, and it needs to be MEDICINAL quality. It is the only real way to further the cause. And I would love to have locally produced amendments available for those who want to study and tweak themselves. It is going to take a long time, but I am not giving up. LOS can free a lot of people from having to buy! BIG UPS to Rrog for turning me on to this idea in the first place.
I am working on a few brewer designs too. I found these very cool collapse-able reservoirs of around 100 gallons so I want to take the brewers up to a scale where entire gardens can benefit. I am working on 'fertigation' systems using venturi valves where people will be able to connect a standard garden hose, water, and have tea sucked out of the reservoir in a roughly 1/4 dilution. I have already got a design at the patent office. I am going to revolutionise the aeration of teas. Being a pool builder I knocked something together using gear from a spa bath ;) No more air pumps. No more clogged nozzles. And SUPER high DO2 levels. No vortex or waterfall needed so no infringement on other patents!

liquid karma says it is not suitable for organic food production in CA. I have some and use it in a foliar spray.
I read on a thread here that organic soil mixes in Cali now come with warning labels proclaiming them hazardous. Cali seems to have taken a hard stance, perhaps a bit overboard. Minute traces of certain bacteria and elements we consider micro nutes are enough to earn this label apparently.

Gage is coming my way very soon! Can't wait. I'm thinking about setting up shop in May's bathroom...need to expand. Wife said no more autos in cupboards or toy boxes tee hee.
I took over a whole room. You can imagine the fuss that caused. My wife had no choice in the matter. She went away on a work and family mission for 30 days, came back, and it was done ROFL... I had to move my bubble buckets out of the shower. I did not get away with that one. She walked in there to put her shampoos etc away, and there was a 400w halide kickin' a 80 litre reservoir with a huge mother in it. NOT impressed I tell you.

You can probably accomplish a similar thing by taking a sick day and claiming your spare room as your reefer colony. Worth a shot mate ;)

And in other excellent news! I have once again filled up my entire flower room!! I am so stoked! I can squeeze a few 5 gal pots in I guess. I have 5 clones ready to do so, but I need the room to move plants around...

YES! Finally. Back on track. All this because of that stupid ass Tahoe herming experience. I lost a few months, but that is now all forgotten. It is taking a lot of my time tending to my gardens now. LOVING IT.
 

Steelheader3430

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Started to take down the grow tent and my wife was not happy. She says she wants to grow some veggies. I'm thinking rosemary, thyme, some peppers and more weed. Maybe cucumbers and make pickles. My plan is to get some trellis and start growing vert. 1 plant in each corner of my 4x4. using some rols in big fabric pots.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Started to take down the grow tent and my wife was not happy. She says she wants to grow some veggies. I'm thinking rosemary, thyme, some peppers and more weed. Maybe cucumbers and make pickles. My plan is to get some trellis and start growing vert. 1 plant in each corner of my 4x4. using some rols in big fabric pots.
Vert is the way to go bro! Can't wait for a couple more weeks to set up.
 

Mad Hamish

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Started to take down the grow tent and my wife was not happy. She says she wants to grow some veggies. I'm thinking rosemary, thyme, some peppers and more weed. Maybe cucumbers and make pickles. My plan is to get some trellis and start growing vert. 1 plant in each corner of my 4x4. using some rols in big fabric pots.
Bro fill that tent with veggies! When done you will have all that lovely second generation soil to play with for your next grow ;)
 

Steelheader3430

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I think I will. The soil I have now is ffhf and ffof. I used dyna-gro formulas in it so I'm not going to use it again for cannabis. Gotta get some better things going on for that, just need money and thats not been easy to come by. Not to mention I gotta learn the cycles for veggies.
 

May11th

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I think I been under feeding shit. I just hit em w a tea and foliar. Going to get some goodies tomorrow. Heres a lil carmelo. I think im figuring this bad girl out. Every generation looks better and better.
20131117_153726.jpg5weeks flowering, battle scarred but responds excellent to topping. She is at her halfway point. Recycled organics that werent amended, just running out of juice, teas from now on.
 

May11th

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They are pretty cool to look at, I think I been under feeding them a tad but jjat gave them a nice fish bone meal tea to help them keep moving and fiah emulsion, I usually dont see fade till week 8 but they must of sucked all the nitrogen out of the used soil. Its crazy learning what a strain wants, I havent had goodluck till I got the carmelo and every strain before just was good mid quality plants, Mexicans would of loved it lol im very eager to try something new but I think Im good on strains for a lil while. I have some vigorous bluedreams I cant wait to show you guys in a few weeks, they are tiny bushes now but I think I may have some fun w one and do what mycomaster taught me and make it a mainline bonsai, these plants cant hurt your heart when they aren't looking good and can make you very happy when they are thriving, I just appreciate everyone's help and I would mail you all bud if I could. I may start my own lil seeds tonight . Later all.
 

May11th

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Just got more nutes, reupped on fishbone meal, kelp meal, and Oyster shell flour, oh and greensand. Then I finally purchased my first bag of earthworm castings, I am excited to try em and hope to make my own soon, then picked up a bigass bag of quano, so I have a question for everyone, what do yall think of veganics? I have all the stuff to do a grow but not many good vids on youtube. I love going shopping I have to go but cloning stuff this weekend. I focus on one thing at a time. Soil is complete now.
 

st0wandgrow

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Just got more nutes, reupped on fishbone meal, kelp meal, and Oyster shell flour, oh and greensand. Then I finally purchased my first bag of earthworm castings, I am excited to try em and hope to make my own soon, then picked up a bigass bag of quano, so I have a question for everyone, what do yall think of veganics? I have all the stuff to do a grow but not many good vids on youtube. I love going shopping I have to go but cloning stuff this weekend. I focus on one thing at a time. Soil is complete now.
I think it's do-able, but it's a little tricky. I tried it for a minute and ended up caving on a couple items. I'm using crabshell meal (mostly for chitin), oystershell flour (liming/ca) and I've used Espoma Garden-Tone as well which has poultry manure, and bone meal. I moved away from veganics for two reasons: Your soil pest management and liming options are limited, and your sources of "P" are tough to find as well.

I'm a vegetarian and said fuck-it to veganics, so take that for what it's worth. :-)
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Congrats on the worm poo May...much better than "man"ure. I came across a very simple, cheap, organic, and vegan veg mix nute tea. What do you guys think about this from Coot...for 5 gal.

1 cup of alfalfa meal (pellets) with 1/4 cup kelp meal - bubble for 24 hours or so. This is the strength for watering the soil and dilute that 1:1 with water for a foliar spray.
 

st0wandgrow

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Congrats on the worm poo May...much better than "man"ure. I came across a very simple, cheap, organic, and vegan veg mix nute tea. What do you guys think about this from Coot...for 5 gal.

1 cup of alfalfa meal (pellets) with 1/4 cup kelp meal - bubble for 24 hours or so. This is the strength for watering the soil and dilute that 1:1 with water for a foliar spray.
Yep. I use that almost weekly. Alfalfa contains triacontinol which is supposed to be a growth stimulant for plants...

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/ejournals/JARS/v36n3/v36n3-hinerman.htm
 
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