Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

[Javadog]

My gods. How we are going to turn this thread back around, I don't know. I can but imagine a noob wanting to learn about teas seeing the thread, skipping along a bit, wanting to ask a question or two. Then BAM! Trombones, balloon knots, bananas and lace. Scarred for life.

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[video=youtube;ezjh47niz7A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjh47niz7A[/video]

 

[prosperian]

My gods. How we are going to turn this thread back around, I don't know. I can but imagine a noob wanting to learn about teas seeing the thread, skipping along a bit, wanting to ask a question or two. Then BAM! Trombones, balloon knots, bananas and lace. Scarred for life.

Here Mad Ham, let me get it back on track (shaking head, rusty trombone)

My kid was watching the Disney channel the other day and they had a short clip on aquaponics. Turns out they have an exibit at Epcot. Just got me thinking about running a Blumat system with my fish water (70 gallon fresh water tank). You guys ever use fish water to irrigate?

[video=youtube_share;cUZr_VODL6Y]http://youtu.be/cUZr_VODL6Y[/video]

 

[May11th]

My balloon knot is organic.


I think my first soil mix was not that great and am going with a super soil type mix now.


/segue attempt

I been trying organics for nearly a yr and still haven't found a comfort zone yet. Im doing supersoil too now, letting it cook now.

 

[May11th]

Here Mad Ham, let me get it back on track (shaking head, rusty trombone)

My kid was watching the Disney channel the other day and they had a short clip on aquaponics. Turns out they have an exibit at Epcot. Just got me thinking about running a Blumat system with my fish water (70 gallon fresh water tank). You guys ever use fish water to irrigate?

[video=youtube_share;cUZr_VODL6Y]http://youtu.be/cUZr_VODL6Y[/video]

I pond water from time to time and my friend uses his fish water and go, his plants look really good, dark green and lush, id use 1/2 fish water to half fresh, I love fishy shit, greatly overlooked, use that w a aloe vera foliar and you'll like what you see.

 

[Mad Hamish]

My balloon knot is organic.


I think my first soil mix was not that great and am going with a super soil type mix now.


/segue attempt

It is a long journey to get it tweaked just right. Just ask my K deficient DB ladies. MEH. I am feeding quite a bit of fish emulsion at the moment. It is carrying them through quite nicely. The older girls - not much I can do to get them looking better, you hit a K def in flower and it gets pretty nasty. Second 'batch' of girls looking a ton better. Those got the fishy goop from earlier on in the flower cycle. Third batch looking perfect.
I have now started using layering. I personally feel it is the road forward. I can see the plants in layered pots just hit the first layer of dry organic food. Just a tablespoon per layer. It is working a treat, I can tell already. I have one layer halfway through the pot, and another more generous one at the bottom. I am getting the DB dialled in at last.
I figured out why it is so much less of a hassle outdoors: The soil is very easily colonised by microbes seeing as they are floating about everywhere. And I think a BIG difference is that they are indigenous to wherever you are growing. This is another reason having your own wormy farm is the best thing since sliced bread. Indigenous microbes. Perfectly suited and adapted to the local micro-climate.

Rrog is right about using local stuff as far as possible. I spoke to a very interesting cat a while ago, he calls himself a shaman and I believe him. He is 60 years old and looks not a day over 30. I asked him what he puts his good health down to. I expected some mumbo jumbo, but his advice was to eat only what is in season for the area that you live in, and eat only from the area that you live in. Makes sense for plants too.

 

[hyroot]

with soil. less is more... I found following cann and cootz recipe has much better results than super soil and less to no deficiencies.


mix peat moss, castings, compost and pumice.

per cubic foot of soil

crab meal 1/2 cup - neptune brand
kelp meal 1/2 cup
neem meal 1/4 cup
basalt or glacial rock dust 4 cups.

Top dress the same with rols. Except less neem meal. 2-3 tbsp

I haven't used rock dust in a min. With kelp meal, neem meal, using aloe in the tea's and home made vc everything is covered. I have added a little rock phosphate a few times as topdress. Make sure its powder

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

But its your wife's finger...not some dudes.

I've read some studies showing aquaponic veggies growing faster, but don't taste as good. I've read this several times...don't know how credible the sites were. I think it's a really cool way of growing. Have you ever looked at all the beneficial gunk in an any type of aquatic filter. I used to have the bacteria swaying on the driftwood.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Guys, I am going to have to be really honest with you all here. I miss hydro. A LOT. Like I said before, only a principle is keeping me away from it. But I will definitely not be running soil indoors again. I am going to research organic hydro as much as I possibly can. So I am retiring my rig for a few months after the DB is done and while I focus on the Gage testers. So Jan through March I will not be running indoor at all. I am used to being able to tweak as needed. Deficiencies are new to me. I hate it. Breaks my heart big time. I literally got deeply depressed with the K def. In my hydro rig this stuff never happened. Just watch the numbers, how they fall in relation to the res, do some math, and you find the line to tread. Over-feeding is what makes 'dro taste bad. I always toed the line towards too little, then tweak tweak tweak, till it is JUST right. I have been toking hydro reefer from a mate of mine for a few days. LVBK I gave him. My pheno. I can't tell the difference in flavour, high, nothing.
Soil is the only way to get the African sun to do it's thing with a cannabis plant. Let me tell you it KICKS. But it is the sun. They grow HUGE. And fast.

Please do yourself a favour, have a look at the last page on this thread:

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/458333-mr-nice-angel-heart-v.html

This is how I am used to indoor looking. I want that again. An ocean of bud. I truly believe myself to be a great Hydro grower. I just can't live with the knowledge I am polluting my water table etc using salt-based nutes. But looking over some of the Doc's work again, I really am missing it.

EDIT: And trying to find all the stuff needed for the soil mixes you guys make, it's getting really expensive! Hurting my pocket big time. And my back wowaaaa... Can't find most of it anyhow. Crab meal, alfalfa meal, feather meal, neem meal, none of that stuff is available to me at all.

 

[hyroot]

Ham try amazon or google shopping or ebay if you can't find it locally.

 

[prosperian]

Guys, I am going to have to be really honest with you all here. I miss hydro. A LOT. Like I said before, only a principle is keeping me away from it. But I will definitely not be running soil indoors again. I am going to research organic hydro as much as I possibly can. EDIT: And trying to find all the stuff needed for the soil mixes you guys make, it's getting really expensive! Hurting my pocket big time. And my back wowaaaa... Can't find most of it anyhow. Crab meal, alfalfa meal, feather meal, neem meal, none of that stuff is available to me at all.

Right there with you brother. I applaud those that source the ingredients for the super soils, but I'm not that into it. Maybe later when I have the time and desire. For now, I just buy the bagged amended organic soil, add some water, and go. Expensive, but worth the convenience to me. If I could get away from the soil I would. It would be an even cleaner environment, and you know I like clean!

Keep me posted on your path to organic hydro. Something I could definitely get into as I get more experience in growing weed.

 

[May11th]

I did a organic bubbleponics 5 gal and had one of the best and fastest growers, but was a male, I know that thing grew 2 ft in a matter of 2 weeks, why dont you try a large scale bubbleponics rig, add all the stuff you do in your teas and let her rip. If I didnt have such cold floors and electrical limits I would do it .

 

[hyroot]

Good luck trying to find orgainic bottled nutes. All those companies lie. Liquid karma is the only true organic nute in a bottle.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

I know Earth Juice will give you an organic taste. Cheap and easy. Claims to be all organic...I remember those days. EJ and coco is like cheating.

 

[Mad Hamish]

MUAHAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I am sooo excited! ELATED! It sure didn't take long. Just ask the right person and WHAMMO!!!

Guys... You think growing organically in soil is cost effective? THINK AGAIN!!! Last page of this thread. I asked, and I received. Genuity is a GOD. Look at those roots. One solo cup of tea per 5 gallon res in DWC. YES YES YES YES!!!!

https://gagegreen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2147&p=33369#p33369

I am so friggin pumped! I can run through walls! Superman is a pussy I'll wrestle his ass to the ground today.

May, you absolute legend, one hundred percent spot on! It is what Genuity does. And no gunky poo slimey yukness! I am going to take this principle to my Ebb and Flow tables. And the run-off from res changes is going to feed my veggies! Hydro that's actually GOOD for the planet!

EDIT: Gandalf, THANKS SO MUCH for turning me onto the Gage forum! That place really is the apex! The very peak of cannabis culture! Onwards and UPWARDS as JD says my friends, onwards and upwards!!!

 

[Mad Hamish]

...And to top it all off, everything I will be doing will still have a place on this thread. It will all be tea-based! Screw the big companies, MH is going LOCAL, going GREEN, and doing stuff the way I like with zero compromise to my moral standing!
I have not been this happy in a long, long time. Finally found what I am looking for. With a practical, WORKING example. One that kicks ass too. Some of the best work I have ever seen, done exactly the way I imagined it should be, Organic Hydro. Nay-sayers and unbelievers be damned! 'Organic and Hydro don't mix' my hairy ass!

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

MUAHAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I am sooo excited! ELATED! It sure didn't take long. Just ask the right person and WHAMMO!!!

Guys... You think growing organically in soil is cost effective? THINK AGAIN!!! Last page of this thread. I asked, and I received. Genuity is a GOD. Look at those roots. One solo cup of tea per 5 gallon res in DWC. YES YES YES YES!!!!

https://gagegreen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2147&p=33369#p33369

I am so friggin pumped! I can run through walls! Superman is a pussy I'll wrestle his ass to the ground today.

May, you absolute legend, one hundred percent spot on! It is what Genuity does. And no gunky poo slimey yukness! I am going to take this principle to my Ebb and Flow tables. And the run-off from res changes is going to feed my veggies! Hydro that's actually GOOD for the planet!

EDIT: Gandalf, THANKS SO MUCH for turning me onto the Gage forum! That place really is the apex! The very peak of cannabis culture! Onwards and UPWARDS as JD says my friends, onwards and upwards!!!

Your energy is contagious Ham!!! Now I'm pumped! Love new...that's why I never settle on one strain, medium, light, etc. Well, organic and full spectrum being the only exceptions. Great link.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Your energy is contagious Ham!!! Now I'm pumped! Love new...that's why I never settle on one strain, medium, light, etc. Well, organic and full spectrum being the only exceptions. Great link.

Hehehe, badass avatar Red. Batminion ROFL. Yeah Gandalf knows how long I have been playing with this idea, and for me to finally see it work is really awesome. Now I can take all the time in the world tweaking soil mixes and testing them, running side by side with my SoG. Back on solid footing for me! Very cool. I am truly over the moon! We live in exciting times! And to make life even more exciting... I can now get my hands on ANY elite clone I want. The offer came out of the blue. I didn't even ask for it, it literally fell in my lap. GSC Forum cut, SFV, etc etc. I will be waiting until April to take advantage of this beautiful opportunity. I must have done something right in a previous life to deserve all this epicness! The next year is going to be the most beautiful and magnificent journey for me.
I am probably going to kinda fade off the forums for a while. But I will make a point to keep contact with you fine gentlemen. This thread will be my 'home base' for a long time to come. But life has now reached a level where shit's getting serious in a good way again. YESSSSS. Been a tough year, but it has lead me down this road. I am grateful for every second. Time to pay it forward too. There is work to do here in SA. Love to be spread. Goodness to be shared. Evil to be kicked in the balloon knot. I am ready. Rock n fuckin ROLL!

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

I might be on to some legit GSC too Ham. Let me know when you plan on running them.

 

[Mad Hamish]

I might be on to some legit GSC too Ham. Let me know when you plan on running them.

When the Gage testers are finished up, I will move on to other things. I am intensely loyal by nature. I promised them my full attention. And I will give them exactly that until they are done. The guys at Gage have been really good to me, I owe them a little loyalty, and this they will get, 100 percent. They sent me a LOT of dank to play with, I am not going to be short on beautiful reefer for a good while to come. But as soon as they are done... It's time for the next level

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

Gage is coming my way very soon! Can't wait. I'm thinking about setting up shop in May's bathroom...need to expand. Wife said no more autos in cupboards or toy boxes tee hee.