Conservatives hate your constitution

greenlikemoney

greenlikemoney

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Speaking of pardons, I can't wait to see the list of societal slime Barry sets free. Maybe that's when he will actually close Guantanamo, when all the thugs have been set free.
 
Doer

Doer

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greenlikemoney said:
Speaking of pardons, I can't wait to see the list of societal slime Barry sets free. Maybe that's when he will actually close Guantanamo, when all the thugs have been set free.
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Eggs Actly!

Btw, to the Leaf, what are you on about, am I for Pardoning Nixon?

It is the Law.
 
El Tiberon

El Tiberon

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ILoveYouSweetLeaf said:
Obama should be brought up on war crimes for allowing torture to continue.
Bush should be brought up on treason charges and war crimes. He started a war against Iraq on lies.
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There is only one problem there. Bush knew he was going to be committing war crimes the moment he came into office. His action to remove the US from the ICC was to protect himself by simply removing the US signature and pushing for US citizens to be immune from the court. He then invaded Iraq.

The unilateral invasion of Iraq was planned long before the US blew up the world trade center buildings.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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greenlikemoney said:
Speaking of pardons, I can't wait to see the list of societal slime Barry sets free. Maybe that's when he will actually close Guantanamo, when all the thugs have been set free.
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lol, no small amount of dog whistles there. "thugs" and "societal slime" from the same guy who curses "anchor babies" and "urban welfare rats" and "detroit" and has some unnaturally throbbing hate boner for obama, yet almost never a word of non-personal policy disagreement. always just personal venom.

all you did was prove how stupid and uninformed you are, mein fuhrer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Barack_Obama





Conspiracy to import marijuana (hashish), conspiracy to remove baggage from the custody and control of the U.S. Customs Service and convey false information concerning an attempt to damage a civil aircraft

Christine Marie Rossiter

Conspiracy to distribute less than 50 kilograms of marijuana

Lesley Claywood Berry Jr.

3 years in prison Conspiracy to manufacture, possess with intent to distribute, and distribute marijuana

Dennis George Bulin

Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute in excess of 1,000 pounds of marijuana

Ricky Dale Collett

Aiding and abetting in the manufacture of 61 marijuana plants





WOOPS!
 
Doer

Doer

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El Tiberon said:
There is only one problem there. Bush knew he was going to be committing war crimes the moment he came into office. His action to remove the US from the ICC was to protect himself by simply removing the US signature and pushing for US citizens to be immune from the court. He then invaded Iraq.

The unilateral invasion of Iraq was planned long before the US blew up the world trade center buildings.
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Well, we spit on the ICC. Most of us.
 
ILoveYouSweetLeaf

ILoveYouSweetLeaf

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Doer said:
It is like you didn't read a word I said. Good job. It is vendetta and not allowed. It is the linchpin of the System.

A President is too boxed in and recorded, watched by the Service etc.

And will you simply stop the whining for a second to give an attempt to understand Presidential Pardon?
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I don't agree with you so I must be whining.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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greenlikemoney said:
Speaking of pardons, I can't wait to see the list of societal slime Barry sets free. Maybe that's when he will actually close Guantanamo, when all the thugs have been set free.
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Yeah everyone seems to get their pardon on in the last days of office...

Clinton grants pardon for his drug-offending brother - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1318811/Clinton-grants-pardon-for-his-drug-offending-brother.html

IN his final executive act as president, Bill Clinton yesterday dramatically pardoned more than 100 Americans including Susan McDougal, his former Whitewater business partner, and Patty Hearst, the former terrorist.

Miss Hearst, the granddaughter of the newspaper baron, William Randolph Hearst, had served three years in prison after joining the left-wing Symbionese Liberation Army that kidnapped her in 1974. Mr Clinton also pardoned his own brother, Roger, who was convicted for cocaine possession in Arkansas and who was among a number of drug offenders that Mr Clinton believed had been punished too harshly.
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Doer

Doer

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ILoveYouSweetLeaf said:
his words are that its the law. If he means literally the law, I would like to see a link.
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Section. 2. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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desert dude said:
It's probably even broader than party loyalty. It is watch your own ass loyalty. I will bet you Obama would pardon Bush if Bush were ever charged with a crime committed during his tenure.
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http://www.salon.com/2010/09/08/obama_138/
[h=1]Obama wins the right to invoke “State Secrets” to protect Bush crimes [/h]
In a 6-5 ruling issued this afternoon, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals handed the Obama administration a major victory in its efforts to shield Bush crimes from judicial review, when the court upheld the Obama DOJ’s argument that Bush’s rendition program, used to send victims to be tortured, are “state secrets” and its legality thus cannot be adjudicated by courts.
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http://www.dailypaul.com/297026/obama-doj-asks-court-to-grant-immunity-to-george-w-bush-for-iraq-war
[h=1]Obama DOJ Asks Court to Grant Immunity to George W. Bush For Iraq War[/h]
SAN FRANCISCO, Calif., (Aug. 20, 2013) — In court papers filed today (PDF), the United States Department of Justice requested that George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and Paul Wolfowitz be granted procedural immunity in a case alleging that they planned and waged the Iraq War in violation of international law.
Plaintiff Sundus Shaker Saleh, an Iraqi single mother and refugee now living in Jordan, filed a complaint in March 2013 in San Francisco federal court alleging that the planning and waging of the war constituted a “crime of aggression” against Iraq, a legal theory that was used by the Nuremberg Tribunal to convict Nazi war criminals after World War II.
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/lifetime-secret-service-protection-restored-for-presidents-bush-and-obama/
[h=1]Lifetime Secret Service Protection Restored for Presidents Bush and Obama[/h]
As a cost savings, Congress had ended lifetime security details for former presidents, cutting off Secret Service protection 10 years after a president leaves office. But in the post-9/11 world Congress decided that former chief executives may still be vulnerable and need protection.
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There is only one major party now.
 
ILoveYouSweetLeaf

ILoveYouSweetLeaf

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Doer said:
The US Constitution gives the President the power to pardon. LAW.
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I know the president has pardon powers, however the law does not say he must use them, they are at his discretion.
Pardoning the last president to set a precedent so the next one pardons you (for illegal activity) is not a good reason to use a pardon.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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ILoveYouSweetLeaf said:
I know the president has pardon powers, however the law does not say he must use them, they are at his discretion.
Pardoning the last president to set a precedent so the next one pardons you (for illegal activity) is not a good reason to use a pardon.
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If I was a sitting president, I would be hard pressed to think of a better reason to use my pardon powers.
 
Doer

Doer

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ILoveYouSweetLeaf said:
I know the president has pardon powers, however the law does not say he must use them, they are at his discretion.
Pardoning the last president to set a precedent so the next one pardons you (for illegal activity) is not a good reason to use a pardon.
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There is no law that says he must pardon, correct.

You have you're own opinion that is not Law. You could Pardon me, if you got the Office...the very point.

Please run. I could use a Pardon. :)
 
desert dude

desert dude

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Doer said:
There is no law that says he must pardon, correct.

You have you're own opinion that is not Law. You could Pardon me, if you got the Office...the very point.

Please run. I could use a Pardon. :)
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I can't count the number of times I have said, "pardon me, sir".
 
Doer

Doer

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abandonconflict said:
http://www.salon.com/2010/09/08/obama_138/


http://www.dailypaul.com/297026/obama-doj-asks-court-to-grant-immunity-to-george-w-bush-for-iraq-war


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/lifetime-secret-service-protection-restored-for-presidents-bush-and-obama/


There is only one major party now.
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Oh NO. There is one Presidency and one Union. The job is to protect the Union. Trying a President for war crimes is not protecting anything.

Thanks for this. Makes me love both those jug ear, Presidents even more.
 
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