Things I have learned from democrats this week....Part II

thecoolman

New Member
Why should any one receive A tax cut or credit its complete BS.
Were fucking broke and its past time to cut spending by about 50% or so.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
25 yrs old
I'm in the 40k - 80k bracket
Single
Caucasian
0 Dependents


I was literally told by my accountant that i make to much money and need to buy a house or something that can become a write off.
solution is: you can have the catastrophe coverage up until the age of 30..the premium is very, very minimal..and is what i would recommend for you..this is my area of expertise when i worked

**the caveat: until i get onto www.healthcare.gov for policy and pricing to actually compare at the "official exchange" for my state (florida), the above is pending my final comments..

dude - you make decent money..welcome to the world of taxes!..sux trust me..what state are you in?
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
10-14-2013 at 5:27 pm:

the numbers don't lie, but you sure do.

obama has lowered your taxes by several thousand dollars.
exactly one minute later:

that's because the thousands of dollars of tax breaks you received have expired.
i believe that explains it all.



to translate that out of Crazytalk, and into english,


obama raised our taxes, then cut them a little bit, for a little while, then raised them a bunch more, then let his temporary tax cut expire, while claiming to be the Ultimate Tax Cutter Of All Time!!
 

UncleBuck

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obama raised our taxes, then cut them a little bit, for a little while, then raised them a bunch more, then let his temporary tax cut expire
false. completely false.

no citation needed because that is utter bullshit. crawling in through the window in the dark type of bullshit.

no need to lie.
 

tokeprep

Well-Known Member
you don't even know what tense i am using.

yet you try to lecture me.

go learn the perfect, past perfect, pluperfect, and so on and so forth before you try to give me a lecture about verb tenses you fucking child.
Perfect: I have.

Past Perfect: I had.

Pluperfect: I had [past participle of a verb].

Go learn your tenses if you're going to prance around being an English Nazi, Buck. Since the action is not continuing into the present and ceased in the past, your usage was incorrect.
 

tokeprep

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the numbers don't lie, but you sure do.

obama has lowered your taxes by several thousand dollars.
In the past. Not in the present. Why are you so hellbent on making it sound like Obama's tax cuts are ongoing? There is no payroll tax credit this year; there is no one time tax benefit just for existing; etc.

That stuff that happened years ago isn't benefiting anyone now.
 

tokeprep

Well-Known Member
false. completely false.

no citation needed because that is utter bullshit. crawling in through the window in the dark type of bullshit.

no need to lie.
I disagree with the sentence you quoted, but why no comment on the shifting temporal location of the cuts? You shifted from "Obama has lowered your taxes" to "tax breaks you received have expired." They cannot both be true.
 

UncleBuck

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I disagree with the sentence you quoted, but why no comment on the shifting temporal location of the cuts? You shifted from "Obama has lowered your taxes" to "tax breaks you received have expired." They cannot both be true.
obama has lowered our taxes (at one point or another).

the tax breaks we received have expired.

there is no contradiction there, you just really suck at english.
 

tokeprep

Well-Known Member
my usage was perfectly correct.

obama has lowered the taxes of 95% of americans.

you can suck a dick, elmira.
So which tense are you claiming that is, Buck? I think you're looking for continuous present perfect tense. Just one problem: the action in question is not in progress. It has already ceased. Thus it is not continuous. The event is in the past, and thus it does not make sense to refer to is as if it is ongoing in the present.
 

tokeprep

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obama has lowered the taxes of 95% of americans.

it is not my fault that you reading compensation has failed you.
Except he hasn't. That's something that happened and ceased years in the past. He HAS not lowered the taxes of 95% of Americans.
 

UncleBuck

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obama has lowered the taxes of 95% of americans (at one point or another).

you don't get how the english language works (right now, in the present).
 

tokeprep

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obama has lowered the taxes of 95% of americans (at one point or another).

you don't get how the english language works (right now, in the present).
You mean in the past, which is why you're now adding that caveat to your statement--you're recognizing that your statement, as formulated, is an inaccurate one that deserves clarification because it is otherwise misleading.

Obama has not lowered the taxes of 95% of Americans in 2011, 2012, or 2013. Thus he has not lowered their taxes. He lowered their taxes in past years.

If you want to make an accurate statement, you should be saying "Obama lowered taxes for 95% of Americans in 2009." But that doesn't carry the implication you wanted it to carry, does it? And that's exactly why you chose the formulation you chose: because it is misleading to Obama's advantage. It implies something ongoing when in reality the tax cut you speak of ceased years ago and presently is benefiting no one.
 

UncleBuck

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you're now adding that caveat to your statement--you're recognizing that your statement, as formulated, is an inaccurate one that deserves clarification because it is otherwise misleading.
i put that in there to clarify for retards like you who don't understand how the english language works.

obama lowered the taxes of 95% of americans during his first term.

thus, we can say that obama has lowered the taxes of 95% of americans and it is a 100% accurate statement.

one time, when i was 17, i went into the wendy's that my buddy was working at and took a giant shit right next to the toilet knowing he would have to clean it up.

thus, we can say that unclebuck has shat on the floor of a wendy's and it is also a 100% accurate statement, and in no way implies that i am currently shitting on the floors of wendy's fast food establishments.

you are picking a really stupid fight because you are stupid and stupid people are too stupid to realize that they're being stupid.
 

tokeprep

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i put that in there to clarify for retards like you who don't understand how the english language works.
That's you, Buck. Your use of continuous present perfect tense to refer to a non-continuous action is grammatically improper.

obama lowered the taxes of 95% of americans during his first term.
Also improper. The action ceased before the first term was completed.

thus, we can say that obama has lowered the taxes of 95% of americans and it is a 100% accurate statement.

one time, when i was 17, i went into the wendy's that my buddy was working at and took a giant shit right next to the toilet knowing he would have to clean it up.

thus, we can say that unclebuck has shat on the floor of a wendy's and it is also a 100% accurate statement, and in no way implies that i am currently shitting on the floors of wendy's fast food establishments.

you are picking a really stupid fight because you are stupid and stupid people are too stupid to realize that they're being stupid.
You don't even understand that your own example is different. "Unclebuck has shat on the floor of a Wendy's" refers to a single incident; there is no implication that it temporally an ongoing, regular thing. Likewise, "He has crashed his car twenty times" would be acceptable.

People have to file a tax return every single year. To say "Obama has lowered taxes for 95% of Americans" implies that they are presently lower and that 95% of Americans are presently paying lower taxes. "Unclebuck has shat on the floor" and "He has crashed his car twenty times" are presently true statements of fact. "Obama has lowered taxes for 95% of Americans" is not.

Let's put it this way: Obama's tax cuts could be and were undone. Your shitting or his crashing of the car cannot be undone.
 

UncleBuck

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fixed that for you. it was not easy to do.
it was actually the republicans who fought to "fuck you over" by getting rid of the payroll tax cut.

also, every single republican but one voted against the tax breaks that you got from the ARRA.

but anything to the left of torturing adorable puppies is abhorrent to you and you are racist,, so best to not mention those facts.
 

nitro harley

Well-Known Member
i put that in there to clarify for retards like you who don't understand how the english language works.

obama lowered the taxes of 95% of americans during his first term.

thus, we can say that obama has lowered the taxes of 95% of americans and it is a 100% accurate statement.

one time, when i was 17, i went into the wendy's that my buddy was working at and took a giant shit right next to the toilet knowing he would have to clean it up.

thus, we can say that unclebuck has shat on the floor of a wendy's and it is also a 100% accurate statement, and in no way implies that i am currently shitting on the floors of wendy's fast food establishments.

you are picking a really stupid fight because you are stupid and stupid people are too stupid to realize that they're being stupid.
That figures..I wondered what kind of people would trash out a rest room with there shit...and you call others stupid?
 
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