Sir_dabs First Grow *Total Newbie*

[M1dAmber]

You got it!!!
Shit works good too!

Heck yeah it does!

I can't remember the last plant I didn't supercrop multiple times throughout veg.
Not only does it make your stems super highways for nutes, but it makes your plants more self-supportive.

Beast stems. XD

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

I need a practice plant...lol

I ain't breaking shit, until I know what I'm doing... Haha
I suppose; of one wants to learn how to swim, you gotta get in the water at some point...

At what stage (how tall?) would be the best time to initiate operation Super Highway and Beast Stems?
Anybody got a tutorial/maybe a link?

 

[garlictrain]

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/288113-step-step-how-super-crop.html

Here's a thread on super cropping. Also some protips on the method:

Hydro/ soilless grows so fast that many times the plants develop hollow stems which are easily destroyed when super cropped, use mad silica!!! (Most silica will spike the ph. Use Earth Juice Catalyst as an organic method to lowering your ph back down)

After super cropping (laying her on her side) larger plants, I always tie the plant down to a stake, to keep an even canopy.
This is one step of the process I refer to as,
Super crop, tie em down, tie em up.
At the beginning of their life super crop.
Veg tie em down (canopy).
Bloom tie em up (weight).

I find plants started and vegged for at least a wk do great with the sc method.

Also specific to your grow SirDabs, you would yield more weight quicker with more plants, and smaller pots. Ie 5x5 1gal pots vegged 0 days rooted and flipped, vs 1 5gal pot vegged for 2wks (supercropped) then flipped.

This sort of space restriction always tends to make me lean towards less media to water/feed/, less nutrients to use overall, more plants... Hence my 4lighter with 24 plants drain~to~waste coco.

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Damn damn damn..Garlic!!

Bro, thank you sooooo much for visiting my thread and helping a rookie out with super solid advice!!

I'm gonna read the shit outta that link..
Thanks again!!
Mucho Respcto Garlico!!

 

[Bubbagineer]

Thanks you guys this is awesome seeing a lot of CO love on this thread !

SirDabs I have used smart pots and other fabric type versions of it like roots pots for many years. Whether they are practical or not always depends on usage. Indoors I think with soil anything under a 10gal smart pot drys out too quickly, so using a nursery container like a squat 7 is better but be sure to give adequate veg time. If using coco and planning on watering/feeding daily (and vegging for less than 7days) then smartpots under 10gal indoor is pretty sweet. I'm indoor in 2gal plastic bucket container of coco and I feed every other day (vegged 5 days). If these were smart pots I'd be feeding daily and BLOWING through nutrients.

Outdoors is a different story, 200-400 gal smart pots have allowed for 5-10lb monsters vegged all season and topped off with straw to keep in the moisture. I have a few LSS outdoor in 15gal smart pots and they do dry out quicker than my 15gal nursery pots.
I notice they can be a pain to clean too, like if you get spider mites and are using fabric pots be ready to sterilize everything. or risk harboring a single mite in an entire pot woven together thus creating millions of tiny hideouts. I just left mine under a tarp all winter, winter fresh clean!

Needless to say they have their pros and cons.
I've been using brute trashcans 20's and 32's indoor and outdoor for many years and that holds moisture well in this normally dry climate!

Great stuff man. Agreed on the smart pots drying out quickly. However, if you use Blumats, they stay perfect... It's really pretty cool. When the Blumats are dialed in, my girls were sucking down a gallon a day and no water was ever in the tray under the pots.... The sides were always moist... The topsoil was dry down to about one inch, then moist (I.e. Not wet or soaked). Of course you would need to use soil, they won't work with coco I don't think.

 

[garlictrain]

Great advice BubbaG!
blumats are awesome for watering soil. Although I love to make super teas that get thick and foamy an stink like shit so I usually end up using the magic wand to water!
Do you find you have to still do capillary building watering techniques early on in the plants life with blumats?
What nutrients are you feeding through them?

 

[Bubbagineer]

Great advice BubbaG!
blumats are awesome for watering soil. Although I love to make super teas that get thick and foamy an stink like shit so I usually end up using the magic wand to water!
Do you find you have to still do capillary building watering techniques early on in the plants life with blumats?
What nutrients are you feeding through them?

No nutes, just RO water. I fed teas every 3rd day or so, but manually. The Blumats auto stop drawing water after you douse with a tea. I would say the plants had control of the Blumats by flower time, I'll go back and look.

 

[Bubbagineer]

SDA, I would pull the Indica pheno SN2? At 58-60 days. The Sativa pheno (I.e. The one growing like kudzu) I would pull at 66 days of flower or so. Wait too long on the Indica and you will lose out on that dumptruck citrus smell lol round about 56 days that girl is gonna smell rank

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Thanks for the info Bubba!!

You pretty much nailed exactly what I have going on in the tent, the Indica [2]
looks like she will finish about 1-2 weeks before the Sativa [3].
Thanks for taking a wild stab in the dark.

And, for the record..I'm on day 29 and that aroma you describe...

Also a bullseye!!

Lots of fun, I love this shit..hehe..
I got a strong intuition that those two strains are gonna be magical to say the least.
Hope to get punched in the face in about 25 days by the” rank”

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Need advice guys...

Is this what I think it is?
Balls?

If so, what to do?

 

[disposition84]

Na, not a ball, just a calyx.

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Thanks guys, this is why I LOVE the Colorado section, nothing but good people lookin out for one another.

Thanks Dispo!!
Verified by squeezing, just a fat ass new calyx I believe.
Much much respect, much appreciation.
Much love,
SDA

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Morning Colorado!!

Thought I'd share a couple pics half way thru week 4..
Neat-o bud shot; eet rook-a-rike a squid swimmin'..hehe

This thing is super stick-y, I(accidentally squeezed) and smelled my finger. .lol Aromatic strong orange/grapefruit acrid smell...whoo

And a cute wittle popcorn nug..did I mention this was Stick-EEE?

Hired a couple of Navy Seals to watch after the place while I'm at work...

Don't want to lose my ladies so, these guys are on full alert..

Hehe, happy Hump day peeps..will post some nugs of SN3 tonight!!

 

[Raeofsun13]

Yummy! Don't you just love the smell they start putting out? Just crazy, they even start their stink in veg. Looking good buddy!

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Wanted to show some flower pics of some of the 3 pheno..

Good night my Emerald Rectangle residents and growers..
SDA

Thanks for reading/viewing.

 

[M1dAmber]

Man, those are looking beautiful, my brother...starting to fill out.
I bet that jungle you got going is smelling wonderful now-a-days!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Sirdabsalot462 again.

 

[Pepe le skunk]

What strain is that dabs? Looking nice fillin in.

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Man, those are looking beautiful, my brother...starting to fill out.
I bet that jungle you got going is smelling wonderful now-a-days!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Sirdabsalot462 again.

Thank you my brother!!
It is getting mighty acrid in there, even the room the that houses the tent stanks!!

Man, I get the same rep message every time trying to rep you, and dammit;....

I spread it around plenty!!

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

Morning brothers and sister! Quick question on an observation..

So, I'm starting to think I had my strains mixed up..

SN3?..She is the Indica, I'm seeing the flowers/leaf structure indicative of Indica characteristics, and she had a significant growth spurt yesterday, and now seems that the 3 pheno is going to be finishing first.

Again, when looking at 2 the razor thin leaves growing out of the flower tell me she is Sativa dominant, although the size of the flowers are significantly larger, but not as developed as the [3] flowers.

Also, the trichomes are more abundant& developed on the 3 pheno.

The 2 has plenty of frost, but not as developed as 3..

Just looking to confirm my findings, 3 is the Indy Dom right?

 

[Bubbagineer]

SN2 was definitely the Indica pheno - buds should get fat in a few weeks, where as the other one will have stretchy buds, hypothetically speaking of course. Also, the Sn2 will be a lighter shade than SN3 which gets pretty purple at the end. Of course the tags could have got switched by some stoner by accident .....