DC Shooter and Obama Care?

[UncleBuck]

you like to talk out of your ass, and it was not a copy and paste. Again Military use, AR15 in question that you like to call Assualt rifle are not classified as Assualt rifles use by civilians because its NOT an Assualt Rifle. Got it!

the AR15 is an assault rifle.

hell, even ask the most convincing pro-gun advocate on this board and resident moderator, cannabineer.*

he won't even dispute that it is classified as an assault rifle, he will argue that the 40+ year old term is just made up by "guns, ewwwww" pussies. or, as i like to call them, "people who do not wish to make our mass murderers the best legally-equipped mass murderers on the planet".

there is no reasonable civilian use for certain arms. that doesn't mean anyone is taking your guns away. it means that you are being redirected towards guns that are better equipped for your civilian needs and wants.

and the most infuriating part of this for testicle cuppers like you? it's all consistent with the second amendment as ruled by this SCOTUS panel, all previous ones, and most certainly all future ones.

go cry now.

 

[UncleBuck]

My point, well your pathetic attempt to insinuate that military should be issued hammers and clubs based on my comment just shows me how much of a moron you are.,The military does NOT use AR15s that are used for civilians. semiautomatic handguns are far more prevalent in mass shootings. Have you shot an AR15? Probably not, you just want to keep up with your stupidness. And you called me the assclown. Too much.

you are right, the military uses a slightly modified version of the AR15 that goes by a different name.

but they really should be using hammers and clubs. after all, you pointed out that they are much better killing weapons.

heavily manipulated, cherry picked statistics never lie.

 

[D619]

so are hammers and clubs better killing tools? is the united states military gonna start equipping soldiers with hammers and clubs now?

is that the point you are trying to make?

for some stupid reason, mass murderers have been making AR15s and the like their killing tool of choice. not many successful mass murderers plying their trade with hammers and clubs. they should talk to you.

" mass murders should talk to me" ok " sport " you are a duecebag for making that comment. Pass all the stupid laws that do not improve society as a whole because of some wacko prescribed Meds from a Doctor pushing drugs legally. Guess what? These crazy nut jobs that went on shooting sprees all had access to mental health hence why they were all on Meds, but the sheeple simply avoid this topic. The real solution is misdirected because its just another event to justify stripping our Rights. Yes that's the trend and that's what our " elected officials" have been doing , but the best part is, We The People ask for it. It's amazing how easy it is to pull the wool over the People's eyes. Hey, the Government Agents can come into your home, ship you off to a non disclosed location, hold you indefinety, all rights stripped away, no lawyer, no judge and no jury. Hope and change ! That was the Con of the decade.

 

[D619]

you are right, the military uses a slightly modified version of the AR15 that goes by a different name.

but they really should be using hammers and clubs. after all, you pointed out that they are much better killing weapons.

heavily manipulated, cherry picked statistics never lie.

" slightly Different " no buddy, completely different. Don't misquote my comments, I never said Hammers and Clubs are better weapons. I said they are responsible for more deaths than a Rifle. Are you stupid or just like to be dishonest?

 

[D619]

Sorry buddy, law-biding Citizens should have access to the same type of weapons s Police officers and other Government Agencies carry on Domestic Soil. " no ones trying to take our Guns away" how the hell do you know what they are trying to do, slowly but surely?

 

[schuylaar]

Sorry buddy, law-biding Citizens should have access to the same type of weapons s Police officers and other Government Agencies carry on Domestic Soil. " no ones trying to take our Guns away" how the hell do you know what they are trying to do, slowly but surely?

ummmmmm:

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


The right to bear arms refers to:

• Right to keep and bear arms, the concept that people, have an individual right to own and carry weapons

i don't see "gun" anywhere above..you have the right to keep and bear arms to PROTECT yourself..the second amendment was penned in a different time..i'm pretty sure our founding fathers were not referencing assualt rifles and hollow point bullets..the perfect solution:

tasers

this gentleman prefers "police ass-whooping" to "taser" let's listen in..

[video=youtube;aTd471QNwTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTd471QNwTc[/video]

 

[desert dude]

white supremacists run amok on the forum for months, desert dude sits quiet. doesn't say a word about them.

white chick says something about "old white men" and he follows her around, calling her a racist.

i guess the only racism that exists in his world is the kind that happens against whites, perceived or real.

but he's totally not a racist.

White chick didn't say "something" about "old white men". White chick said "the good news is that old white men are dying" in a celebratory way. Days later I asked her if she was the one celebrating the deaths of old, white men. She gleefully responded, "Yes, I did". That seems to me to be the most blatantly, unapologetic racist statement I have seen on RIU. Even you pale in comparison.

She then goes on to make more stupid, and illiterate comments on a host of topics that just begs for ridicule. For example, look at her scholarly analysis of 2A and "weapons" above. Willful ignorance and mendacity should have repercussions.

 

[D619]

ummmmmm:

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


The right to bear arms refers to:

• Right to keep and bear arms, the concept that people, have an individual right to own and carry weapons

i don't see "gun" anywhere above..you have the right to keep and bear arms to PROTECT yourself..the second amendment was penned in a different time..i'm pretty sure our founding fathers were not referencing assualt rifles and hollow point bullets..the perfect solution:

tasers

this gentleman prefers "police ass-whooping" to "taser" let's listen in..

[video=youtube;aTd471QNwTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTd471QNwTc[/video]

i will respond later to this RIDICULOUS post later. AR15 is a low end powered rifle that shoots one bullet at a time.
It's painfully obvious you do not have a clue.

 

[D619]

White chick didn't say "something" about "old white men". White chick said "the good news is that old white men are dying" in a celebratory way. Days later I asked her if she was the one celebrating the deaths of old, white men. She gleefully responded, "Yes, I did". That seems to me to be the most blatantly, unapologetic racist statement I have seen on RIU. Even you pale in comparison.

She then goes on to make more stupid, and illiterate comments on a host of topics that just begs for ridicule. For example, look at her scholarly analysis of 2A and "weapons" above. Willful ignorance and mendacity should have repercussions.

What you were saying about our Founding Fathers?
heres a catch on the surface of what our Founding Fathers had to say about the 2A

The Founding Fathers on the Second Amendment


“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788


“A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …”
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.


“The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them.”
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot’s Debates, vol. 3 “The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution.”


“… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms”
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights


“And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …”
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, “Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State”


The Founding Fathers on Arms


“Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
George Washington
First President of the United States


“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.”
Thomas Paine


“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788


“The great object is that every man be armed.” and “Everyone who is able may have a gun.”
Patrick Henry
American Patriot


“Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?”
Patrick Henry
American Patriot


“Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not.”
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States


“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … ”
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.


“The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”

 

[D619]

White chick didn't say "something" about "old white men". White chick said "the good news is that old white men are dying" in a celebratory way. Days later I asked her if she was the one celebrating the deaths of old, white men. She gleefully responded, "Yes, I did". That seems to me to be the most blatantly, unapologetic racist statement I have seen on RIU. Even you pale in comparison.

She then goes on to make more stupid, and illiterate comments on a host of topics that just begs for ridicule. For example, look at her scholarly analysis of 2A and "weapons" above. Willful ignorance and mendacity should have repercussions.

What you were saying about our Founding Fathers?
heres a catch on the surface of what our Founding Fathers had to say about the 2A

The Founding Fathers on the Second Amendment


“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788


“A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …”
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.


“The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them.”
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot’s Debates, vol. 3 “The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution.”


“… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms”
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights


“And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …”
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, “Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State”


The Founding Fathers on Arms


“Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
George Washington
First President of the United States


“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.”
Thomas Paine


“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788


“The great object is that every man be armed.” and “Everyone who is able may have a gun.”
Patrick Henry
American Patriot


“Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?”
Patrick Henry
American Patriot


“Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not.”
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States


“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … ”
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.


“The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”

 

[desert dude]

What you were saying about our Founding Fathers?
heres a catch on the surface of what our Founding Fathers had to say about the 2A

The Founding Fathers on the Second Amendment


“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788


“A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …”
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.


“The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them.”
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot’s Debates, vol. 3 “The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution.”


“… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms”
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights


“And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …”
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, “Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State”


The Founding Fathers on Arms


“Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
George Washington
First President of the United States


“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.”
Thomas Paine


“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788


“The great object is that every man be armed.” and “Everyone who is able may have a gun.”
Patrick Henry
American Patriot


“Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?”
Patrick Henry
American Patriot


“Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not.”
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States


“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … ”
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.


“The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”

All those words are like, old and shit. Words had different meanings back then. Who knows what it might mean today? Only the government should have weapons. Just look at Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Oakland, Memphis... Just think if guns were legal!!!

 

[D619]

Samuel Adams:


"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."


John Adams:


"Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense."


Thomas Jefferson:


"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."


Thomas Jefferson, in an early draft of the Virginia constitution:


"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms in his own lands."

 

[D619]

All those words are like, old and shit. Words had different meanings back then. Who knows what it might mean today? Only the government should have weapons. Just look at Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Oakland, Memphis... Just think if guns were legal!!!

Wow! In your case ignorants triumphs logic! Pointless debating with you since your head is to far up the anti-gun agenda's ass.

 

[D619]

" words have different meaning" seriously! You are a joke! Enjoy your delusional misinformed existence. You are a sheeple, congratulations.

 

[D619]

All those words are like, old and shit. Words had different meanings back then. Who knows what it might mean today? Only the government should have weapons. Just look at Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Oakland, Memphis... Just think if guns were legal!!!
quotes by " desert dude "

FBI Statitics proves where guns are less restricted, the crime rate is lower. So to answer your question about Chicago, Detroit and blah blah blah, based on facts and historical and existing data proves you WRONG!

Now the truth comes out, " only the Government should have weapons " the mentality of a slave at its best. According to the Bill of Rights our Founding Father proves how ignorant you are and how far off the deep end you are. All those so called " words are old shit and have different meaning " really! How's that? It's called the English language, what are you a 5 year old!!

 

[desert dude]

All those words are like, old and shit. Words had different meanings back then. Who knows what it might mean today? Only the government should have weapons. Just look at Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Oakland, Memphis... Just think if guns were legal!!!
quotes by " desert dude "

FBI Statitics proves where guns are less restricted, the crime rate is lower. So to answer your question about Chicago, Detroit and blah blah blah, based on facts and historical and existing data proves you WRONG!

Now the truth comes out, " only the Government should have weapons " the mentality of a slave at its best. According to the Bill of Rights our Founding Father proves how ignorant you are and how far off the deep end you are. All those so called " words are old shit and have different meaning " really! How's that? It's called the English language, what are you a 5 year old!!

Yeah, but all those founding fathers were racist! The constitution makes black people less than human; that's 3/5 of a fact!

 

[schuylaar]

this is too easy..i'm bored..next thread..

 

[D619]

Yeah, but all those founding fathers were racist! The constitution makes black people less than human; that's 3/5 of a fact!

you have gone " Full Retard "

 

[D619]

this is too easy..i'm bored..next thread..

yeah, cause I made you look like the fool! Bye!

 

[schuylaar]

yeah, cause I made you look the fool you are. Bye!

perhaps i've struck a nerve?

EDIT: while simultaneously coming up with a solution?..