My First grow
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MetalSmelter
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Just a little update this morning.....
My soil ph seems ok afaik now. she's close to 90% dry id say though after watering sat midday.
Also bfq what do you mean by thinning her out over the next while....not sure if i get what your saying, removing more leaves.....that'll just stunt her again and delay it even more wont it..?
My soil ph seems ok afaik now. she's close to 90% dry id say though after watering sat midday.Also bfq what do you mean by thinning her out over the next while....not sure if i get what your saying, removing more leaves.....that'll just stunt her again and delay it even more wont it..?
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B. THC R+D
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He Is Talking About, Removing Any Leaf That Was More Than 50% Damaged As It Is Now Realy Just Like A Sucker And Not Realy Giving Back To The Plant. We Have Yellow Coming, Im See In The Pic. Its Progressing And Im Feeling Like A Bit Much On The Appl. And Mol... Just Basic, As Posted Prev. Bust Your Book Out And Lets Get Her Back On Track,,, Im Going Thru Me Books Now, As U Should Be.!!! This Is Ok,,, No Panicing And Patience... We Are Ok,,, And On This. Yes!~ And Hows The Light Been Doing.!!! I Hope More To The Full Side Of 12 Hrs Dark.!!! Db.!
B. THC R+D
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Questions.
She Was Flushed Right, But We Feel In A Hurry And Poss. Not Correct/
Does She Need Watering, Is Her Pot Light.!!!
Whats The Npk On Your Blm Nutes Estimate In Need And Let Me Know Apple Given Yes Or No And Mol. Given Yes Or No With Those #s' Please.
She Was Flushed Right, But We Feel In A Hurry And Poss. Not Correct/
Does She Need Watering, Is Her Pot Light.!!!
Whats The Npk On Your Blm Nutes Estimate In Need And Let Me Know Apple Given Yes Or No And Mol. Given Yes Or No With Those #s' Please.
MetalSmelter
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Last dose was 1 teaspoon Nutes, npk 10-52-10, along with 1.5teaspoon AJ into 1/2 gallon the morning the problems happened, i think on thursday, last watering was sat morning. Last i did molasses was probobly that monday or tuesday before, with a teaspoon molasses into 1/2 gallon
Today she does need watering, weight is almost empty as she feels.
She was flushed with 1 gallon on that thursday night with a tspn of AJ, and yes probobly in a hurry, and she needed no more AJ either, so mistake 20.
So many mistakes i see myself doing....that hindisght is just retarted.
Bust my book out, i'm really not sure what to do, seems that she's suffering from Zn deficiency, little leaf, and chlorosis of the intervarial areas, because of the K lockout, or Ph. I did buy some ground domolite lime, could not find hydrated lime as suggested to neutralize ph, and add some Mg back, which was because of the ph imbalance that looks similar to Zn deficiencies. thats about all i can find.
Today she does need watering, weight is almost empty as she feels.
She was flushed with 1 gallon on that thursday night with a tspn of AJ, and yes probobly in a hurry, and she needed no more AJ either, so mistake 20.
So many mistakes i see myself doing....that hindisght is just retarted.
Bust my book out, i'm really not sure what to do, seems that she's suffering from Zn deficiency, little leaf, and chlorosis of the intervarial areas, because of the K lockout, or Ph. I did buy some ground domolite lime, could not find hydrated lime as suggested to neutralize ph, and add some Mg back, which was because of the ph imbalance that looks similar to Zn deficiencies. thats about all i can find.
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Like The Bfg' Hehehehe! Said. Lets Focus On The Basic... Like The Abfuct. Says... Now From What I Know And U Can "see" My Grow...!!! Your P' # Is Too High! I Run 7-20-14, And By Giving The Apple In The Bloom Side Only!!! Im Playing With The P' And The K'...! We Dont Realy Need The N' Here, But We Have To Have It Because, Well We Are Growing A Plnt...
So My First Sugg. To Get This Under Controll Is To Stop The Exotic Stuff, And Lets Just Focus On The Same O Same Npk.' Lets Look At Getting Poss. Some Diff. Nutes Or Lets Cut Her Nute Ration Down, This Does Not Mean Her Water. She Will Allways Need This. Temps Check', Light Check'
Nutes And Water,,,??? !!! Heres Are Prob.
The The P' Being So Hi I Feel The Added App, And Mol, Is Over Loading Her In These Cats, And This Is Leading To What Were Seeing. Along With A Small Like Of Patience And Know How,,, Witch Is Why Im Here.!!! Its Yur 1st Run. Throw Your Goal, And Dream Out The Widow On This One,,, Not Her, We Need Her.!!! And Lets Nail Down Some Basic,,,and Then Well Play!!!
So Ethier Cut Her Nuteings Back And Waters Same... Cut The Exotic Out, And Lets See.!!! ???? Some More Questions. Im Sure. So Hit Me!!! Db.!
So My First Sugg. To Get This Under Controll Is To Stop The Exotic Stuff, And Lets Just Focus On The Same O Same Npk.' Lets Look At Getting Poss. Some Diff. Nutes Or Lets Cut Her Nute Ration Down, This Does Not Mean Her Water. She Will Allways Need This. Temps Check', Light Check'
Nutes And Water,,,??? !!! Heres Are Prob.
The The P' Being So Hi I Feel The Added App, And Mol, Is Over Loading Her In These Cats, And This Is Leading To What Were Seeing. Along With A Small Like Of Patience And Know How,,, Witch Is Why Im Here.!!! Its Yur 1st Run. Throw Your Goal, And Dream Out The Widow On This One,,, Not Her, We Need Her.!!! And Lets Nail Down Some Basic,,,and Then Well Play!!!
So Ethier Cut Her Nuteings Back And Waters Same... Cut The Exotic Out, And Lets See.!!! ???? Some More Questions. Im Sure. So Hit Me!!! Db.!
MetalSmelter
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I'll cut the nutes back and drop the apple and molasses.
The nutes are expert gardener. I'll probobly stick with these nutes till i can get some fox farms, etc. So i'll just cut her back extensivly, as she was doing great for the longest while with this stuff, then shit hit the fan.
So what do you suggest i do for my watering today?, 1/4 teaspoon strength nutes into a 1/2 gallon?
Thanks for you help, so helpful
The nutes are expert gardener. I'll probobly stick with these nutes till i can get some fox farms, etc. So i'll just cut her back extensivly, as she was doing great for the longest while with this stuff, then shit hit the fan.
So what do you suggest i do for my watering today?, 1/4 teaspoon strength nutes into a 1/2 gallon?
Thanks for you help, so helpful
B. THC R+D
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Ok Back Track, When Did Sht. Hit The Fan.??? And No Not Extensivly We Still Got A Plant To Grow... Go Half For Now, And Wait And See... It Is Like Watching Paint Dry Some Days...!!! That Half Str. Nutes And Get A Bit Of Drainage, Water Her Slow As To Get All Her Dirt Wet. But Not Her Stock...! And I Baby Set My Light Timmer For Three Days Till I Knew It Was Perfect And Havent Touched It In Yrs.!!! Me~
personally, i think i would want to get the nutes stabilized... since you have things out of whack some how. from here on out i would make sure she has pH'd water and give her exactly what the instructions on the nutes say.... unless that soil is still a pH mess. if it is, i would stick to just pH adjusted water (set properly, do not try and compensate for the soil's pH) until the soil is in order.
as for that lime, tough call... that is usually intended to be added to the soil mix before growing starts... i have no idea what sprinkling some on the soil and letting it leech in with water would do... you might get some vicious pH spikes in various parts of the soil.
i *think* i would try and stabilize it just by watering... but i KNOW i would do a lot of research on it and see if maybe i could find someone else who had gone through this and fixed it.
as for that lime, tough call... that is usually intended to be added to the soil mix before growing starts... i have no idea what sprinkling some on the soil and letting it leech in with water would do... you might get some vicious pH spikes in various parts of the soil.
i *think* i would try and stabilize it just by watering... but i KNOW i would do a lot of research on it and see if maybe i could find someone else who had gone through this and fixed it.
MetalSmelter
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Db, shit hit the fan thursday afternoon......watered her in the morning, she started showing curling like a rams horn that night, i flushed her then with 1gallon, and the next day the blotching started.
Well Db suggested at 1/2 nute strength, and bfq you suggested plain water, so i'll do 1/4 strength, and just let her slowly get back into order.
I got one of them little analog ph meters with a needle in it, and i have to stick it in sorta at an angle so i dunno if thats throwing off the reading or springs inside. But it says soil needs to be slightly onthe muddy side, so i'll stick it int he soil, dry as is, the water her, and let it seep in and hopefully it'll read......hasn't came up yet for the soil, except that actual chemical added soil test for ph i did the other day. As for phing my water, i'm just sticking the probe into it and letting it sit for 2mins then reading. ~6.8
Well Db suggested at 1/2 nute strength, and bfq you suggested plain water, so i'll do 1/4 strength, and just let her slowly get back into order.
I got one of them little analog ph meters with a needle in it, and i have to stick it in sorta at an angle so i dunno if thats throwing off the reading or springs inside. But it says soil needs to be slightly onthe muddy side, so i'll stick it int he soil, dry as is, the water her, and let it seep in and hopefully it'll read......hasn't came up yet for the soil, except that actual chemical added soil test for ph i did the other day. As for phing my water, i'm just sticking the probe into it and letting it sit for 2mins then reading. ~6.8
every 2 weeks i seem to have everything fucking up, but truthfully it works out
the grow all and all seems to be going well, just concerned about the time frame (as am i)
my grow journal turned into a high school bitching match so im happy to be in here where everyones mature haha
the grow all and all seems to be going well, just concerned about the time frame (as am i)
my grow journal turned into a high school bitching match so im happy to be in here where everyones mature haha
MetalSmelter
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I know its recommended not to use MG nutes but i grabbed some other nutes from a friend to try.
MG general purpose stuff, 15-30-15. I got about a 1/2 cup or so of it to use if need be. No money for the time frame either so it'll have to do for now till i can get something better. I figured it'd be better than the 10-52-10 i have, as Db said it was too much P. So the MG is a little more moderated.
I'm rather liking my journal though so far, i need a bit more organization and better documentation.
MG general purpose stuff, 15-30-15. I got about a 1/2 cup or so of it to use if need be. No money for the time frame either so it'll have to do for now till i can get something better. I figured it'd be better than the 10-52-10 i have, as Db said it was too much P. So the MG is a little more moderated.
I'm rather liking my journal though so far, i need a bit more organization and better documentation.
B. THC R+D
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MATURE, WAIT IM HERE TOO!!! AND U HAVENT EVEN SAID HIGH TO ME OR NOTHING. "KICKING THE GROUND" AND HE AINT LIE ING. THAT GUY WAS GOING TO GET HIS WAY NOW!!! I SEE THAT ALOT NOW DAYS... LITTLE PRENCESSES... "FALLOW THE RULES" NOOB.!!! AND SORRY IF U FEEL I HIGH JACKED YA,,, JUST SAY WHAT HE WAS DOING. ONE AFTER ANOTHER AND WELL,...~~~!!!! ??? WE COOL!???
MG aint the end of the world... dont let the haters fool ya
dont get me wrong, it isnt great, but it also isnt like gasoline.
my opinion is that MG is a "hot" fertilizer so when us over eager stoners use it we roast our plants unless we can manage to be chill with it.
AND WERE ON THE SAME PAGE MISTER, I JUST WANTED TO POKE U WITH A STICK TODAY. SORRY FOR THAT...!!! LOL DB.~
BFG' HEHEHEHE!
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Good Cause I Hate To Step On Toes... And That Guy Was Asking For It.!!!
Just Cant Watch That Anymore...so Deff. Agree With Your Post. Me~
Just Cant Watch That Anymore...so Deff. Agree With Your Post. Me~
MetalSmelter
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Just a little update this morning...
She seems to be stretching upwards more, i have about 2.5-3" of vertical room left.
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Still some curling going on. But the large majority seem to be pulling straight again. And the Zn def is slowly backing out.
Close up vertical of a head.
How's she looking?
She seems to be stretching upwards more, i have about 2.5-3" of vertical room left.
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Still some curling going on. But the large majority seem to be pulling straight again. And the Zn def is slowly backing out.
Close up vertical of a head.
How's she looking?