People who call themselves "hunters"

guy incognito

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I don't need any teeth to eat apples, oranges, or bananas (I don't need any teeth to get to the soft fruit inside is what I mean). Lot's of fruit I simply cannot eat without using tools like knives. These include water melon, other kinds of melon, pineapples, etc. I guess that just means eating melons is unnatural.
 

beardo

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Everything gray is where none of those fruits grow, so why do the people that live there have K9's?

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I think he might be retarded
Do you think it's mom didn't eat meat either? Maybe a lack of fats and proteins in utero stunted brain development
 

guy incognito

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I'm gonna go binge myself on fried chicken. Then i'm gonna take the left overs and throw them in the garbage. Then buy more tomorrow.
 

Skuxx

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So why is your life more valuable than an animals again? If someone killed your family member and ate them, what's the difference between that and what happens to billions of animals each year?
no animal is more valuable than another. If you kill an animal, then you have the right to eat it if you please. If you don't want to eat meat, then that's fine... but why should you want to stop everyone? The smartest, strongest, and and most powerful survive... If a person killed someone in my family and ate them.... technically it's no different. But they would be punished if caught because that's how we do it.
 
Okay. This thread is obviously reached the end of sanity. You have a non-scientist proclaiming that we are physiologically herbivores, which is utterly a lie and spits in the face of all historical data and also our evolutionary history and the facts represented by the expressions of our predatory genes (our canines and the positioning of our eyeballs in the front of our skulls).

Look, I know the OP read some vegan manifesto that argues that we are herbivores, but I can tell you with complete faith in science and graduate studies in evolutionary biology that we are not herbivores. All scientific data and all of history supports this fact. The human species is omnivorous, and has been for hundreds of thousands of years. Even leading proponents of vegetarianism admit that we're omnivores. Ever hear of a book called "The Omnivores Dilemma"?

Here's what NPR has to say on the subject. It's short. You should read it.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/04/20/150817741/for-most-of-human-history-being-an-omnivore-was-no-dilemma
 
no animal is more valuable than another. If you kill an animal, then you have the right to eat it if you please. If you don't want to eat meat, then that's fine... but why should you want to stop everyone? The smartest, strongest, and and most powerful survive... If a person killed someone in my family and ate them.... technically it's no different. But they would be punished if caught because that's how we do it.
Technically, this is not true. Our ethical conduct is rooted in our social codes. Certain societies hold certain animals in higher standing than others. This plays out around the globe.

I do not support an anthropocentric view of our species as the center of all life on this planet, but I disagree with the notion that all animals have some intrinsic right to life. Let's remember that most life on this planet is sustained through death, and that animals are excellent practitioners of death. The animals that are societally held in high esteem are the ones that evolved to work well and serve the humans within that ecosystem. Which is why we respect dogs, horses, and cats, etc.

The reason the cow is sacred in India is fundamentally because most of India cooks with dried cow manure. If you took away the random cows hanging out in the slums (by eating them), no one would be able to boil water or cook rice. An animal is respected only in so much as we are in awe of it (dolphins, whales, etc) or that it serves a purpose (horses, dogs, cats, pets).

I'm not saying this is an ethical view--and I for one do not share it--but let's not play fancy games and skip around the facts here. If we elevate every living thing to the same status, then no more swatting mosquitos or killing rats. You know why we kill rats and mosquitos? Because they carry diseases that kill us in droves.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Technically, this is not true. Our ethical conduct is rooted in our social codes. Certain societies hold certain animals in higher standing than others. This plays out around the globe.

I do not support an anthropocentric view of our species as the center of all life on this planet, but I disagree with the notion that all animals have some intrinsic right to life. Let's remember that most life on this planet is sustained through death, and that animals are excellent practitioners of death. The animals that are societally held in high esteem are the ones that evolved to work well and serve the humans within that ecosystem. Which is why we respect dogs, horses, and cats, etc.

The reason the cow is sacred in India is fundamentally because most of India cooks with dried cow manure. If you took away the random cows hanging out in the slums (by eating them), no one would be able to boil water or cook rice. An animal is respected only in so much as we are in awe of it (dolphins, whales, etc) or that it serves a purpose (horses, dogs, cats, pets).

I'm not saying this is an ethical view--and I for one do not share it--but let's not play fancy games and skip around the facts here. If we elevate every living thing to the same status, then no more swatting mosquitos or killing rats. You know why we kill rats and mosquitos? Because they carry diseases that kill us in droves.
You forgot that pinnacle of apex excellence. cn

 

Samwell Seed Well

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is it that hard to understand that hereditary/enviromental changes/mutations in DNA or RNA will exhibit a genetic marker

im no scientist but it does make sense when read
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
is it that hard to understand that hereditary/enviromental changes/mutations in DNA or RNA will exhibit a genetic marker

im no scientist but it does make sense when read
The thing that can be hard to understand for many (we humans have a weakness toward the Lamarckian error) is that mutations precipitate change, but the change does not steer the mutations. (There is no Practice Effect.) The mutations and combinations are selected in a manner that is contemptuous of the fortunes of the individual. cn
 

sunni

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man ya'll are still going on about this? i massacred a whole thing of tofu while you guys went up another 20 pages lol
 

Skuxx

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I'm not saying this is an ethical view--and I for one do not share it--but let's not play fancy games and skip around the facts here. If we elevate every living thing to the same status, then no more swatting mosquitos or killing rats. You know why we kill rats and mosquitos? Because they carry diseases that kill us in droves.
Well I still view it all the same. The only reason I don't kill people if they irritate me enough is because someone else will kill me, or throw me in jail. If I kill a mosquito then a swarm of mosquitoes doesn't come for revenge. People can carry diseases that kill us too
 
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