DOMA ruling is a start.

[kpmarine]

the guy concerns me greatly.

he has previously asked me what the problem with racism is, now he wants to know what the problem is with fucking an animal.

to the surprise of no one, he's on the right side of the political spectrum.

It's one of those moments where I really, truly, hope that he's a troll.

 

[BigNBushy]

In that thread, buck, you were going on like we ought to throw people in jail for being racist. I say a person has a right to be racist if they choose to be. They don't have the right to discriminate against anyone based on that in certain capacities, like hiring for a job, for instance. What is wrong with using an animal for sexual gratification in a culture that uses animals as a food source? Would you rater be raped or killed and eaten? I have no desire to screw a large breed dog, but if you do, I don't care. That's your business, and as long as it ain't my dog, I don't care.

 

[BigNBushy]

Also, farmers regularly stick their arm up their livestock's vaginas to implant sperm from a bull, and this is ok. That farmers penis is much smaller than his arm, and the farmers sperm cannot result in a potential unwanted pregnancy of the animal in question. I don't want to screw any animal, but obviously you have some bias against those who do.

 

[kpmarine]

Also, farmers regularly stick their arm up their livestock's vaginas to implant sperm from a bull, and this is ok. That farmers penis is much smaller than his arm, and the farmers sperm cannot result in a potential unwanted pregnancy of the animal in question. I don't want to screw any animal, but obviously you have some bias against those who do.

Sexual gratification is not the same as survival. It's one thing to inseminate a cow to produce edible offspring. It is an entirely different issue when you're banging that cow to get your rocks off.

 

[Nutes and Nugs]

In this country "marriage" isn't just a religious term. A marital coupling here is something that carries benefits outside of the church.

And what is that Benefit?
MONEY!

I think that's why the govt originally granted Married couples a tax break.
As a married couple most people would first have a steady income.
Buy a good car and house then pop out a few kids.
This is good for the economy.

What good are gay couples?
Why should they get any tax breaks just because they're gay?

 

[Nutes and Nugs]

Sexual gratification is not the same as survival. It's one thing to inseminate a cow to produce edible offspring. It is an entirely different issue when you're banging that cow to get your rocks off.

Bushy's right.
We kill animals on a daily basis.
Why would having sex with an animal be a "different issue"?
Kill a child or rape the innocent is a "different issue".

 

[Nutes and Nugs]

Oh, and for you atheist - science guys,
Being gay is linked to a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Good Ol Obama wants everyone to have a fair chance at whatever.
Take the Boy Scouts for example. LOL, let's let lesbians join!
They take more and more of your freedom and The American Way away from you day by day and the media convinces you this is "right" and no one seems to care.

 

[Padawanbater2]

N&N and

B&B, how can you be racist and not discriminatory?

'What is wrong with using an animal as sexual gratification instead of consumption?'
-necessity

You don't care if someone rapes a dog.. Then you aren't equipped with the necessary filters required to raise a family, let alone own a pet.

also, we don't fuck cows (or any unwilling recipient incapable of consent) because of the physical pain we might cause them, it seems unbelievable to me something like this would need to be explained.. We don't fuck them because its wrong to by every measurable human degree.

I absolutely 'have some bias against' those that wish to get their rocks off by raping non-consenting animals. Fuck those disgusting assholes, from the steps of Peru to the deserts of Iraq. Rape transcends species..

'why should they get tax breaks just because they're gay?

why should straight couples get tax breaks just because they're straight? ..

Killing an animal for necessary consumption is a hell of a lot different than using an animal for sexual gratification..

Being gay is 100% normal. Unfortunately for you blow hard (oh so hard!) conservatives, it's being recognized and all you have left to grasp at is decades old confirmation bias. Soon, you silly fucks will be gone and all the hatred you fought for will be forgotten at the sound of equality cementing its presence in America. Your grandchildren will be the last remnants of a time of intolerance, they'll be the last indication of a difference as something as petty and irrelevant as skin color or sexual orientation could cause. Your bullshit won't last another generation, I guarantee it.

 

[echelon1k1]

In this country "marriage" isn't just a religious term. A marital coupling here is something that carries benefits outside of the church.

if money/tax breaks are a reason then it goes hand in hand with religion... What's wrong with a civil union? Once marriage ceases to be grounded in the biological reality of the male and female union, it becomes nothing more than an institution centred around emotional attachment.

 

[UncleBuck]

What's wrong with a civil union?

ok, let's let gays have marriage and straights can have civil unions then.

after all, there's nothing wrong with civil unions, right?

for the record, and just to piss off the anti-semite i'm responding to, i would just like to mention a thing about jewish weddings.

it is traditional at jewish weddings to acknowledge the sadness even upon the happiest occasions. to honor this tradition, we acknowledged how sad it was that one of my wife's bridesmaids was unable to be married on the day she witnessed our happy union.

they are still waiting to be able to be married. they should not have to uproot and move to do so, and they should not be forced into settling for a "civil union" because you think they should be satisfied with it.*

take your consistently bigoted notions and get the fuck out of here, asshole.

 

[SHOTGUN420]

so if i am attacked by a bear and i shoot it, this opens the door to people being allowed to shoot people who wear nickleback shirts? i mean, it's only logical. why should i be forced to accept people who wear nickleback shirts? shit's dangerous.

Shoot them all I won't stop you nickleback is watered down garbage rock.

The point is where does it stop , no matter how many times a group is told no they push and push. Slandering the majority who disagree into groups as bigots/nazis/religious and so on and so fourth. Pedophiles have been trying for years to have the same rights a adult couple. Why does it always have to be a older man and 8 year old boy Tell me what about the 12-14 year old girls who consent or say they do because they want to marry. Are you going to be for it or against it? No matter how hard one community tries to force another into its agenda it doesn't work. It breeds hate and violence.

I say the "gay movement" is all about the attention because if you loved someone of the same sex no one is stopping you you could of had civil unions but instead you choose to attack those who disagree with you on the basis of marriage.

 

[UncleBuck]

Slandering the majority who disagree into groups as bigots/nazis/religious and so on and so fourth.

*forth

are you not bigoted?

do you not espouse the same core beliefs as a neo-nazi?

do these labels not fit you?


you are a bigoted asshole who espouses neo-nazi beliefs, such as white separatism/nationalism/supremacy, as well as holocaust denial and homophobic bigotry.

why do you think you are exempt from common descriptions?

 

[SHOTGUN420]

As far as having to accept another groups way of life; welcome to living in what's supposed to be a country with equal rights. If it's not harming someone or something else, then you should accept it. You don't have to like it though.

It harms children. Keep kids out of it .

 

[schuylaar]

Shoot them all I won't stop you nickleback is watered down garbage rock.

The point is where does it stop , no matter how many times a group is told no they push and push. Slandering the majority who disagree into groups as bigots/nazis/religious and so on and so fourth. Pedophiles have been trying for years to have the same rights a adult couple. Why does it always have to be a older man and 8 year old boy Tell me what about the 12-14 year old girls who consent or say they do because they want to marry. Are you going to be for it or against it? No matter how hard one community tries to force another into its agenda it doesn't work. It breeds hate and violence.

I say the "gay movement" is all about the attention because if you loved someone of the same sex no one is stopping you you could of had civil unions but instead you choose to attack those who disagree with you on the basis of marriage.

It's about the benefits of marriage for LGBT..the right to have benefits..the same benefits you and your wife have as a couple.

 

[SHOTGUN420]

It's about the benefits of marriage for LGBT..the right to have benefits..the same benefits you and your wife have as a couple.

A way to attack those who disagree with your lifestyle and a tax break all rolled into one?

 

[schuylaar]

A way to attack those who disagree with your lifestyle and a tax break all rolled into one?

Smells like REPUB to me..IMO

 

[SHOTGUN420]

Smells like REPUB to me..IMO

You know you proved my point its about the attention and the benefits if it was about love you you claim the gay movement would of been happy with civil unions.

That is the only thing you have to say about the truth?

I believe in freedom I'm far from a republican't or a demirat. Unlike you I'm not into the 2 choice from the same lot mindset.

 

[Doer]

Smells like REPUB to me..IMO

No a skinhead rabbit.

 

[SHOTGUN420]

No a skinhead rabbit.

Shouldn't you be preaching how your anti-pc. lol Your a clown.

 

[schuylaar]

Dear President Bush: Understanding Leviticus [HR][/HR] Dear President Bush, Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them. 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? (I'm pretty sure she's a virgin). 3. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 4. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 5. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Aren't there 'degrees' of abomination? 6. Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? 7. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 8. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 9. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. It must be really great to be on such close terms with God and his son, ... even better than you and your own Dad, eh? J. Kent Ashcroft (and others).