DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

[Doer]

Well, true. You can make a quick tea from Aquashield and something myco, I use Orca. Then add some Hydrozyme, and Riziotonic for the emzymes booster shot, that the Bens would eventually give.

Just add the proper portions to a gal of water, no Molasses. I would then use something, a cup an syringe, to douse the roots directly.

It seems a big late now for him to just try Aquashield and hope.

 

[apbx720]

Thread or not.... if the tea isn't working for him, Aquashield might be good enough and takes out human error.

i did try aquashield

 

[apbx720]

Well, true. You can make a quick tea from Aquashield and something myco, I use Orca. Then add some Hydrozyme, and Riziotonic for the emzymes booster shot, that the Bens would eventually give.

Just add the proper portions to a gal of water, no Molasses. I would then use something, a cup an syringe, to douse the roots directly.

It seems a big late now for him to just try Aquashield and hope.

i also tried hygrozyme with the tea before i read that heisenberg said not to use hygrozyme. and the results were as heis explained, that plant completely died overnight

 

[apbx720]

I use this reciepe with humbolt honey as my molasses and I've never had a problem doing it this way for the last yr..

thanks for yr input. the only thing i did differently is the humb honey and if it still works for u then that kinda rules that out as the cause for the tea not working, but if u guys still think its the humb honey, then i will try molasses.

 

[apbx720]

i will be going to the hydro shop today. i need more mycos. i tried the zho as heis recommended but i would like to try another brand. im leaning toward orca. what do u guys think is a good myco for this application

 

[Doer]

Well, I did try the Rhizotonic and it works. I include that as a foliar spray 6 times a day to keep the humidity up when the clones are just starting to get the roots in the water.

Oh, also, I got some B1. and even though I kinda flubbed the first run through of my rooting and then transplanting, this time. But, I included a B1 root soak for 15 mins and it looks like they have all pulled thru after a few days of looking pretty sad.

It is not an easy thing. Just keep going, or start again.

 

[Perukinkin]

Hello,
I have been looking at ozone generator for air and water, it seems to kill everything bad when you use it. Pretty sure it will kill this slime as well.
They come with an air stone and you treat the water for a few mins a few times a day. You can find inexpensive ones on Ebay.
take care,

 

[Doer]

Not a good idea... You can end up with ozone poisoning yourself when Mr. Murphy pays a call...and he will.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/indoor/o3g-list.htm

...we do not know if the ozone emitted will exceed the recently adopted 0.050 ppm standard. Exclusion from this list is not to be construed as endorsement by the California Air Resources Board. In-duct systems and other non-portable ozone generators are not listed here, but may generate potentially harmful levels of ozone.

 

[Heisenberg]

Cheap ozone generators are notorious for outputting too much. On some units, the output can increase 10x in between "med" and "high". They should never be used when humans or pets are able to breath the air. Ozone will harm your roots and foliage as well.

 

[Quickdraw McGraw]

OK, I know that Mr. Heisenberg said that he recommends to brew 1 gallon minimum of tea at a time, but I went ahead and started a 1/2 gallon batch. I'm just using Mycogrow and brown sugar, about a 1/2 teaspoon of each and 1/2 gallon distilled water, air stone. Bam. It started getting frothy within 15 minutes and after an hour it had a head like a cup of beer poured off a keg that was hitting bottom! wow! 6 hours later there was still some froth at top, but not much. It's been around 30 hours and it's pretty calm now. I've been sniffing at it, to see it it smells earthy, but there's no smell. I'm assuming that by getting frothy, those bennies were woken up and partying, and there's no farty smell. Are we still good to go? It's good, right?

 

[VgAce]

I tried reading through the entire thread but I could not find the reason for straining the tea. I am using ZHO, Aquashield, and Plant Success Granular. I would think that keeping the Plant Success Granular in the batch would help overall. What do you think Heisenberg? Why do you strain the tea?

Also, would adding Clonex Clone Solution to the batch do anything or would it be harmful to the tea microbes?

 

[Malevolence]

It's to keep little bits of shit out of your res. The little bits of shit are not harmful, and Heisenberg says he no longer strains the tea a few thousand pages back.

 

[TheDevilsLapDog]

Hey great post Iv heard nothing but awesome results from the use of " The Miracle Tea" I'm a first time grower I'm growing in an Aerogarden 66 and using the Botanicare Pro grow I haven't switched to Bloom yet I wanting to veg mine for a while, I also use House an Garden roots excelurater and since getting the brown slime on my roots I started using Hygrozyme noting has helped, I have beautiful root growth out of the sides of my net perfect white roots but once they get about 3inchs the brown slime takes over they the wilt and die! My plants actually look pretty good considering they show some slight signs of either leaf burn or nut burn but over all look great, my question is should I switch from Botanicare to DutchMaster now before I switch to flowering since botanicare is organics, I'm brewing some "Tea" now I'm using the ancient earth, and great white, I ordered the bennes from Fungi.com but I wanted to get a jump start with the great white until it arrived. Thanks for the info much appreciated...

 

[gliese581g]

Is this the "after slime" that Heisenberg mentioned?

I applied a heavy dose of nearly 1 cup per gallon as a big innoculant and to clear up a potential problem. My roots had a slight browning and slime feeling before but it was very minor. This is my first time using Heisenberg's Tea.

I woke up this morning and they are COVERED in a brown slime. It doesn't really smell. It's dark coloured, washes off easy. Res temps are 65-70 with >1w per gallon aeration.



I applied much smaller doses (2 cups per 10 gallons) in my other reservoirs and there is none of this brown gunk whatsoever, but these reservoirs also had the least problems before hand.

Is this good bacteria killing bad bacteria or the bad bacteria exploding? The tea had been brewed for 24 hours, not the recommended 48. Made a 4 gallon batch with Mycogrow/EWC and about two tbsp of black strap molasses added at the beginning of this 24 hours

 

[gliese581g]

Here is a better pic taken with HPS off.

 

[Jeeyah]

Follow directions. Brew for 48 hours. 3 cups per gallon is A LOT.

 

[gliese581g]

I think I may have overdone it lol. That said, I actually applied 1 cup per gallon in this reservoir (as Hseinberg recommended for bad infestations). I said 3 cups per gallon by mistake (wrote my original post in a panic early this morning).

I believe I did follow the instructions. It said 24 to 48 hours, with 48 being optimal. I opted for 24.

Is this after-slime (good bacteria) or something else? Has anyone seen it before after applying a tea?

Thanks.

 

[Doer]

Very good. I'm not sure they are fighting each other....except in the way one Clover will cover a big stretch of driveway crack. It keeps all else from sun. Why? Because it can, it dominates.

Fusaria or whatever this is, something like that, will take over, only if there is an uncovered crack. And it can go in more cracks than the Clover can cover, so to speak.

So, we enlist some help. We don't care about the Clover, if it can keep the those tall gnarly trashy plants from the driveway.

But, Clover needs help. We get those brewed up and since we have a varied group of crack defenders, all cracks are defended. We feed em, grow them and turn them loose to live in the roots where the do two things. 2 things before they very shortly die, like 48 hrs.

Crack Defense!! Scum is wimpy as well as cowardly, I guess.

Crack Repair! That's right. While they are busy doing whatever their secret lives in a tailored mirco-organism consortium, amount to on a daily basis, they supercharge the rooting by applying a plant hormone, sub-type auxin.

It is why you bust out those roots!

These same auxins are the ingredients of the expensive rooting concentrates like Excelurator, as I've read.

 

[Olympus Mons]

gliese581g, you cannot overdo the tea. Something in your res is bad. You need to use hydro nutes only. Dump your res and spray your roots down. Then treat with the tea, brewed for 48 hours.

 

[VgAce]

I had to dump my tea because it had already gone bad after only 5 days. My res had a really bad gunk buildup and I dumped all the water. The remains had such a bad sewage smell that I almost threw up. It smelled like feces in my hands. It took a long time to properly clean out everything. So yes you can overdo the tea because i followed his recipe exactly and it only produced minimal roots and the remains smelled like crap.