Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Rrog said:
Uh oh! You can easily start decomposition and heat. I haven't seen it personally but have read plenty of folks have. Easy to do.
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Yeah everything was composting just fine with little smell and tons of mites but damn barely any worms. I guess those mites were breaking shit down too.
 
its better to under feed than over feed...

they will just eat their bedding after a while, and break down everything further and further...


Could have been the acidity that killed them too... lots of green things will make your bin acidic..

coco and peat moss are great buffers, that will slow down the composting .
 
Rising Moon said:
its better to under feed than over feed...

they will just eat their bedding after a while, and break down everything further and further...
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Is that likely what happened you think? I pulled out a bunch of piles of newspaper and shit that wasn't broken down. I'm getting another pound this week. Any suggestions on feed? Was thinking some kelp meal, veggie scraps, neem meal, herbs etc but maybe a handful well shredded every few days.

Care to explain the fast track Do's and Don't Rising Moon?
 
headtreep said:
Is that likely what happened you think? I pulled out a bunch of piles of newspaper and shit that wasn't broken down. I'm getting another pound this week. Any suggestions on feed? Was thinking some kelp meal, veggie scraps, neem meal, herbs etc but maybe a handful well shredded every few days.

Care to explain the fast track Do's and Don't Rising Moon?
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I started a thread about just this topic...https://www.rollitup.org/organics/637587-vermicomposters-unite-official-worm-farmers.html

Trying to get some action over there with the other vermicomposters...

Maybe some photos to jazz up the thread, lol.
 
wow + rep so glad I found your thread, in time i will read the full thread on eyecmag ... ur thread is going to be great for me for future reference.

my first question, sorry if it has been answered in ur short thread i will look for it ... how do you reammend if you dont till, and do you grow back to back in the containers or u let them sit somewhere for a couple months?
 
also sometimes my smart pots get all weird looking on the outside like something is wrong, I can't wait for the plant to finish when that happens so that I can toss the fabric container in the laundry. I guess you dont do that hehe?
 
GreenSanta said:
wow + rep so glad I found your thread, in time i will read the full thread on eyecmag ... ur thread is going to be great for me for future reference.

my first question, sorry if it has been answered in ur short thread i will look for it ... how do you reammend if you dont till, and do you grow back to back in the containers or u let them sit somewhere for a couple months?
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Thanks for checking the thread out. If you don't want to no till you can chop your root balls and put them in a container and pour an ACT over them let them sit and breakdown. I use trashcans personally but don't do it that way anymore since doing no till. Depending what is in your soil you can re amend it with things like kelp, compost, ewc, etc but go easy on things like alfalfa and crab. Use quality amendments always :)
 
with the no till, u re-amend on top all the time? so u dont have the bottom third hotter like a regular supersoil grow but simply re-amend on top? the top layer of the container is never too hot for your seedlings / clones ?
 
We top dress and we don't use a hot layer. One soil but I have lighter seedling mix for beans. Clones and everything else get regular. It's made to be easy, cost effective, friendly to the environment, less labor and most important produces the finest quality medicine ever!! Yeah I've done the Sub Super Soil thing and it works for some strains but others it will burn. This kind of soil will work for all from veg through bloom over and over and over....

Only my pictures will prove I guess as time goes on :)
 
headtreep said:
We top dress and we don't use a hot layer. One soil but I have lighter seedling mix for beans. Clones and everything else get regular. It's made to be easy, cost effective, friendly to the environment, less labor and most important produces the finest quality medicine ever!! Yeah I've done the Sub Super Soil thing and it works for some strains but others it will burn. This kind of soil will work for all from veg through bloom over and over and over....

Only my pictures will prove I guess as time goes on :)
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cool! THANKS! I have a different recipe than sub, also i dont veg my plants and i use more than enough soil so I dont really burn my plants anymore, I go light on my mix and when i see a potential monster after the plants have shown sex I simply top dress with more SS. I started re-using recently using bokashi, other than I dont really know what to re-amend (not sure what the plants used the most...) I am getting great results! I am very curious about the no till though...

what do you do when your containers get very dirty after many grows? seems to me like hard plastic container would work better for this. Also, personally I am not so sold on the smart pot because I often get better results in plastic containers
 
I have one important question, this could improve the way I grow BIG TIME (12/12 from seed) depending on your answer here! do you let the containers sit outside the room between grows to allow some time for the root to decompose or simply grow back to back to back in them? Would it be possible to have one or 2 massive containers in the room that simply stay in the room at all time?
 
GreenSanta said:
Would it be possible to have one or 2 massive containers in the room that simply stay in the room at all time?
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Yes. This is the heart of No-Till. When a new plant is introduced, the microbes will consume the old root ball, freeing up raw materials for the new plant.

Isn't that cool?
 
headtreep said:
Dirty containers? Just wipe them off if they bother you. I use both plastic and fabric.


I plan today to get 100 gal smart pot for my compost pile. Seems like a good choice to me.
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finished or active? i thought it was better to have it direct contact with the earth
 
When I heard there was a soil called roots organic I just figured I could use the soil roots and all after it sat out over winter. The consistency was great and it drains well while still retaining moisture. Put a bunch of this reclaimed soil on my blueberries and they seem to like it :)
 
kushking42 said:
finished or active? i thought it was better to have it direct contact with the earth
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Yes it's better but I need my shit contained for the moment. I don't think it's gonna be a showstopper to use that with some dirt mixed in it. Rrog and others care to object?
 
Totally agree! Its real hot and dry and here and I plan to put a tarp on top. Thanks for checkin me on that cause it's important for people know that's its ok to do that. Put the pile on the bare ground and cover with tarp if needed. That's the shit right there get all free microbes and bugs hehe.
 
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