dispensaries no longer legal. fuck.

Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob

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Good time to get the compassion club network going again. Set up caregivers with patients, train new ones, keep sales out of it.

The law is based on 1 patient, 12 plants, 1 caregiver, 5 patients. That is what we have to work with, use the system.

We are here at this point because folks wanted to make big bucks with commercial sales. The experiment failed.

We need to get back to basics, let's see what can be done to hook patients up to caregivers in their area. To train new caregivers.

Green is gone too, and that is very unfortunate. We really needed that one.

Dr. Bob
 
Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob

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Word to the wise, LEO has been waiting for this decision to act. I would stay away from dispensaries and farmers markets until this shakes out. We are going to see quite a bit of enforcement in the next few weeks.

Dr. Bob
 
Rare D MI

Rare D MI

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Anyone even think about all of the local publications like metro times and real Detroit that will losing probably $50k+ in ad revenues a year if not more?
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Dr. Bob said:
Good time to get the compassion club network going again. Set up caregivers with patients, train new ones, keep sales out of it.

The law is based on 1 patient, 12 plants, 1 caregiver, 5 patients. That is what we have to work with, use the system.

We are here at this point because folks wanted to make big bucks with commercial sales. The experiment failed.

We need to get back to basics, let's see what can be done to hook patients up to caregivers in their area. To train new caregivers.

Green is gone too, and that is very unfortunate. We really needed that one.

Dr. Bob
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"We are here at this point because folks wanted to make big bucks with commercial sales. The experiment failed."

I wouldn't go that far. The experiment didn't fail, it's just in a holding pattern until the state legislature looks at the issue and passes a bill to clarify whether or not dispensaries will be allowed under the act. This is part of the process.
 
Rare D MI

Rare D MI

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Dr. Bob said:
Good time to get the compassion club network going again. Set up caregivers with patients, train new ones, keep sales out of it.

The law is based on 1 patient, 12 plants, 1 caregiver, 5 patients. That is what we have to work with, use the system.

We are here at this point because folks wanted to make big bucks with commercial sales. The experiment failed.

We need to get back to basics, let's see what can be done to hook patients up to caregivers in their area. To train new caregivers.

Green is gone too, and that is very unfortunate. We really needed that one.

Dr. Bob
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No we need to push for regulation that will make the state so much money that they won't be able to turn it down. $10k a year for a dispensary license. All for profit shops, tax all sales. Make it $50mil a year they're taking in instead of 5-10, and they will love it and the Feds will stay out like Colorado.
 
Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob

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You guys are both missing the point, I was referring to the MMMA and the dispensary folks trying to spin it to their financial advantage. I clearly agree that what needs to be done now is we need a SEPARATE law for dispensaries, one that protects self growing patients and the caregiver system. The experiment was that provisions for commercial sales could be found in the original MMMA. They were not. The SC confirmed that once and for all.

The experiment was folks trying to mine the Act for things (specific words, meanings of words, etc) that allowed commercial sales. The great 'a' patient vs 'their' patient somehow coming to mean 'any' patient issue with caregivers getting compensation is just one example. The only way to justify the legality of commercial sales, be they p2p, dispensary, or farmers market, is to have a specific law allowing them. The MMMA is not that law.

Dr. Bob
 
TheMan13

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Dr. Bob said:
Good time to get the compassion club network going again. Set up caregivers with patients, train new ones, keep sales out of it.

The law is based on 1 patient, 12 plants, 1 caregiver, 5 patients. That is what we have to work with, use the system.

We are here at this point because folks wanted to make big bucks with commercial sales. The experiment failed.

We need to get back to basics, let's see what can be done to hook patients up to caregivers in their area. To train new caregivers.

Green is gone too, and that is very unfortunate. We really needed that one.

Dr. Bob
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Considering the current network of dispensaries and/or farmers markets that literally thousands of Michigan MMJ patients have relied on for their daily medication for years now, what do you suggest will fill the 6 month plus gap between now and getting a decent caregiver online with adequate medication for their needs? As if one could reasonably deduce that from current MMMA law.

Legalization may be the only way to keep the lawyers, doctors and politicians from simply pricing MMJ patients out of an alternative LEGAL market :(

 
Huel Perkins

Huel Perkins

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I didn't read passed the first page so forgive me if this has already been brought up...

Didn't we get the exact same court ruling a couple years ago. It ruled all dispensaries illegal as well as sales between anyone except patients and their designated caregivers. Over half of the dispensaries in the state at the time closed down on their own and a couple in Lansing and OC were raided. Months later dispensaries slowly started to reopen. How is this any different?
 
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Blaze23

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I have a relevant question. So P2P transactions are illegal? but C2P (even if its not their primary) is still legal? or was it never legal? im confused lol.
 
DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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im glad i made my current "pharmacist" my new cg last night. no more worries of being outside the boundries of this farce of a new ruling. and i acutally met him on BT. lol

oh, and no FM for me this weekend. i wasnt planning on donating my $$ for meds tho (i have enough), just wanted to hang out and bs with other great minds. looks like ill be riding the couch and HOPE nothing ill comes to them.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Huel Perkins said:
I didn't read passed the first page so forgive me if this has already been brought up...

Didn't we get the exact same court ruling a couple years ago. It ruled all dispensaries illegal as well as sales between anyone except patients and their designated caregivers. Over half of the dispensaries in the state at the time closed down on their own and a couple in Lansing and OC were raided. Months later dispensaries slowly started to reopen. How is this any different?
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That one was DC opinion, was it not?

This one is SC. They have the final say.
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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Does anyone know the the percentage of current MMMP cardholders without a designated caregiver?

Would not any action by the local gov't to impede medication access to that percentage patients be actionable by state law?
 
DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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the choice on the designation paperwork has you elect a CG or appoint yourself as the CG. i just filled mine out last night for my new cg.
 
needlesnpins

needlesnpins

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Does anyone realize that one of the justices (kelly) will be serving 1 1/2 years fed time for mortgage fraud next year?
 
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Blaze23

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I called a dispensary and they are still open, she just told me that patient to patient was illegal but everyone in there facility are caregivers (workers) and that they are a non profit. So there are still ways around it, I think? This particular case involved P2P transactions as mentioned in the articles released.
 
buckaroo bonzai

buckaroo bonzai

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total legalization will open the doors fully for big corp to step in and take over....

you really think if they make it totally legal you will still be able to continue on with your little endeavors and the state will not step in to demand ther tax on such...??....that's what some of this is about....they pay no taxes right now at dispensaries....
I would not want to be one of those owners who has to reconcile their taxes with sales....unless they put a lot of $$ aside for just this

be ready to support some large protests this summer to close our favorite clubs/FM....hopefully thousands turn out for these...Ann arbor has waited 40 yrs for this....I doubt their going down easily--

it should be completely legal for medical use and decriminalized for recreational....
they can't tax medicine--

anything else is a big $ grab by big $ players ....don't be fooled----by NORML lawyers and the rest that are leading the mmj law here in mich......they don't care about you ....they only care about their 'religion'---$$$$
they are pulling us around by our dick on roller skates!......time for pts to stand together and protect what little rights we have left before they take those away and gut the rest of the law---

why do you think California's law is the way it is....?.......
and who do you think will have the right to grow if it is completely legalized taxed and regulated??
only the folks that pay the big $$....

we will be like Canada where they just lost all their grow rights and now have to buy it from the state--

look at Washington state...alcohol lobby is dictating the operation of dispensaries....and Colorado.....??....pffft!
crappy large scale hydro warehouse grows!

tax and regulate only helps the big $$ players tht can afford that type format-

keep it in 'our' hands to grow and maintain a medical perspective.....

and make your club 'private' .....vetted members only.....
CC...?......not viable anymore--they destroyed that format and I wouldn't be caught dead joining one.....
who do you think they will have under their microscope next after they go after the dispensaries...??

by the way when is the protest to keep them from shutting down the larger FM...?....GC3...?....6-7000 members should make for a nice front page headline protest--:joint:
 
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