dispensaries no longer legal. fuck.

TheMan13

Well-Known Member
You mean that the state of Michigan overcharged patients and caregivers 500% for clearly substandard services required by their own legislation. Now the supreme court overseeing this bullshit legislation kicks these same folks teeth by impeding patients access to medicine.

How might a community hold these individuals accountable for all of this political bullshit?
 

Cory and trevor

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Well, maybe it's time we shut off their $$$$. Fuck renewal. What is the point of it if the justices are just going to take access away? Its alot like the stamp act on marijuana-come show us your pot and we'll give you a stamp.....after we arrest you for having pot! I see only one recourse and I'm pissed they JUST cashed my renewal check yesterday-no more card for me. That's 100 anually you won't get. who's with me? you get more legal protection from a fucking umbrella at .01% the cost.
 

ThatGuy113

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You guys keep asking about the farmers market but I think the article is saying any sale to anyone other then the person on the back of your card is illegal.

"In a 4-1 decision, the state's highest court affirmed an Appeals Court finding that Michigan's 2008 medical marijuana law does not allow people to sell pot to each other, even if they're among the tens of thousands who have state-issued marijuana cards"

They misnamed the article it should be called Patient to patient exchange ruled illegal.

My question is doesnt the world sell/sale constitute profit? If you are only taking compensation for running the disp or your own distribution system isnt that avoiding "profit"?
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
You mean that the state of Michigan overcharged patients and caregivers 500% for clearly substandard services required by their own legislation. Now the supreme court overseeing this bullshit legislation kicks these same folks teeth by impeding patients access to medicine.

How might a community hold these individuals accountable for all of this political bullshit?
Well there is that xcop in LA :0
 

Firstoffallen

Active Member
This doesn't mean no more dispensarys this just means no more multiple memberships to dispensarys all the manger or owner would have to do is become your caregiver (still a bunch of bullshit). dont know about you but i dont smoke in public anyway i can go back underground my grow would have to go away tho... :cuss:
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
Well, maybe it's time we shut off their $$$$. Fuck renewal. What is the point of it if the justices are just going to take access away? Its alot like the stamp act on marijuana-come show us your pot and we'll give you a stamp.....after we arrest you for having pot! I see only one recourse and I'm pissed they JUST cashed my renewal check yesterday-no more card for me. That's 100 anually you won't get. who's with me? you get more legal protection from a fucking umbrella at .01% the cost.
Not a bad idea. Get your doctors recommendation to protect yourself in court, but fuck the renewal process with the state.

I'd rather wipe my ass with that $100.
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
This doesn't mean no more dispensarys this just means no more multiple memberships to dispensarys all the manger or owner would have to do is become your caregiver (still a bunch of bullshit). dont know about you but i dont smoke in public anyway i can go back underground my grow would have to go away tho... :cuss:
The manager/owner can only have up to 5 patients.

5 customers wouldn't make a very lucrative business.
 

TheMan13

Well-Known Member
im ready to go back underground
Exactly brother! This decision by the Supreme Court will clearly force dispensary (and alike) patients to seek medication underground and without a doubt benefit the black market and the criminal world running it.

That said, I would really like to see a "do no harm" constitutional amendment that would allow for some criminal recourse to this modern political arrangement that every US citizen suffers from daily.
 

Cory and trevor

Well-Known Member
Not a bad idea. Get your doctors recommendation to protect yourself in court, but fuck the renewal process with the state.

I'd rather wipe my ass with that $100.
That's my thinking, I will use their form to have my doctor sign and say I would benifit from it's use and keep it tucked away. Should I get arrested for possession or growing I believe I can still constitute a medical defense as long as the doctor has OK'd my use prior to arrest. This could cost me more in the long run as without a card I have to go to court but if the justices will be so brazen as to re-write law from the bench I feel it's my duty to be just as brazen and take my chances. I'm only 100$ but 100 of us is 10K and 1000....you get the point. I may also send out letters stating my intent to do so to my reps and the LARA. contemplating if that would be worth it or not-risk vs reward is tough to gauge on that one.
 

TheMan13

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Justice CAVANAGH, dissenting, disagreed with the majority’s interpretation of the MMMA and would have held that when a qualified patient transfers marijuana to another qualified patient, both individuals have the right to assert immunity under § 4 of the act. The presumption that a qualifying patient or primary caregiver is engaged in the medical use of marijuana may be rebutted with evidence that the conduct related to marijuana was not for the purpose of alleviating the qualifying patient’s medical condition. The majority reasoned that the reference to “the” qualified patient requires the conclusion that only the recipient of marijuana is entitled to § 4 immunity for a patient-to-patient transfer of marijuana. The majority’s interpretation was inconsistent with the rules of statutory interpretation and with the purpose of the MMMA. The reference in § 4(d)(2) of the act to “the” qualifying patient simply requires that one of the two qualified patients involved in the transfer of marijuana have a debilitating medical condition that the transfer of marijuana is intended to alleviate. The majority’s erroneous interpretation of § 4(d) further led it to an incorrect conclusion that any facilitation of a patientto-patient transfer of marijuana was enjoinable as a public nuisance.


Justice MCCORMACK took no part in the decision of this case.
 

Cory and trevor

Well-Known Member
if I read this part right, the penalty is public nuisance-is that right? IF so, what is the penalty for a conviction of public nuisance?
 

Cory and trevor

Well-Known Member
Justice CAVANAGH, dissenting, disagreed with the majority’s interpretation of the MMMA and would have held that when a qualified patient transfers marijuana to another qualified patient, both individuals have the right to assert immunity under § 4 of the act. The presumption that a qualifying patient or primary caregiver is engaged in the medical use of marijuana may be rebutted with evidence that the conduct related to marijuana was not for the purpose of alleviating the qualifying patient’s medical condition. The majority reasoned that the reference to “the” qualified patient requires the conclusion that only the recipient of marijuana is entitled to § 4 immunity for a patient-to-patient transfer of marijuana. The majority’s interpretation was inconsistent with the rules of statutory interpretation and with the purpose of the MMMA. The reference in § 4(d)(2) of the act to “the” qualifying patient simply requires that one of the two qualified patients involved in the transfer of marijuana have a debilitating medical condition that the transfer of marijuana is intended to alleviate. The majority’s erroneous interpretation of § 4(d) further led it to an incorrect conclusion that any facilitation of a patientto-patient transfer of marijuana was enjoinable as a public nuisance.


Justice MCCORMACK took no part in the decision of this case.
So we got one literate justice, a no-show and a 4 clowns who do what they want and write law from the bench? GREAT!
 
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