Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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PJ Diaz

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Alexander Supertramp

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ROLLITUP: We need the ability to change accidental "likes".... Sorry fella (OP), I was not concuring with Alexander, and sorry to Alexander for the false hope. A.S. man, your responce would lead folks to believe you have not been around these parts much ;) Keep reading!
Same place you clicked to like. It is unlike now, just click again. Noobs need to pay attention....
 

Slab

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jeez this thread is killing me.

Riddle me this batman... when I put my hand up to block the sign from my eyes is it a light blocker? Uh kinda, but the light is still hitting my arm so my body is still producing vitamin D.... Same thing with the plants!!! Now someone please close this thread!
Good analogy, I remember doing that as a child. The sun easily travels through the meat and skin. Just not bone

We actually get some good learn'n going on, once the revenge posts subside.
 

PJ Diaz

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Recommend you unsubcribe, like I did before. :)
What does that mean that you unsubscribe?

You always seem to come right back anyway. We already know how you feel anyway.

Go ahead and unsubscribe for the 14th time. It makes no difference, because you'll be right back later. Silly man.
 

Uncle Ben

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....I'm willing to sacrifice the loss of yield on those in the name of science. Three will be defoliated every week or two in veg then after stretch and 45 days flowering the last three are not as healthy as the six so they are just going to be single experiments one just defo in veg one just in flower and the other all the time.
Who is the independent, non partisan, scientific community that is gonna dictate proper empirical procedures for setup and data collection and monitor and control your day to day activities? Will you be weighing flowering plant parts and exactly how will you determine where to start cutting and where to finish and at what moisture content?

If you want to see for yourself, fine, more power to you, keeping in mind the community is still left with anecdotal evidence and a predisposition to have an outcome of what we want or expect to see.

Good luck,
UB
 

Bud Brewer

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Yeah it does. Did you view the Trainwreck plant profile? Post #1239, https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/521700-fan-leafs-blockers-light-energy-62.html Look at the lower part of the plant. There is actually a broad flare up of intense flowering buds at the bottom. They are actually wider than above. Pretty strange, eh?
That is because the bottom branches are longer so are getting some direct light the ones just above it aren't so they don't get as big or frosty or dark they are less mature from lack of light despite their apical dominance you continue to prove yourself wrong.
 

PJ Diaz

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jeez this thread is killing me.

Riddle me this batman... when I put my hand up to block the sign from my eyes is it a light blocker? Uh kinda, but the light is still hitting my arm so my body is still producing vitamin D.... Same thing with the plants!!! Now someone please close this thread!
Walk around with a light blocking glove on one hand for a week. At the end of the week take off the glove. Notice anything different?
 

Slab

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No they wouldn't fill in as dense if I didn't help it create more branches by defoliation your missing the point of doing it in veg because you have never seen the regrowth for yourself.
I got these from a friend who grew them in hydro his were not nearly as dense or as large he didn't do any defoliation during veg just flower.

The bulb is within a foot of the plants the bottom is parallel to the to the average tops below the main cola I have no space to drop it between they are too fat.
I maintain the bulb in the same position relative to the shield the sweet spot I just move it all up as needed it works great. The only problem is to work in there I raise the light and shield to the ceiling and crawl under I got a 3 foot space with everything raised and can stand up.

I could have made it bigger this will be reused for vegging same idea but made into an octagon with the 45 degree top for the nine clones I will be doing defoliation experiments with three as controls I'm willing to sacrifice the loss of yield on those in the name of science. Three will be defoliated every week or two in veg then after stretch and 45 days flowering the last three are not as healthy as the six so they are just going to be single experiments one just defo in veg one just in flower and the other all the time.
There are plenty of growers here that get plants that bushy, without defoliation. I have gotten 118 colas on one plant, what I found was there just wasn't even enough hormones to drive that much flowering. You have some beautiful plants brewer, I did delete that room dialed in comment because it was inflammatory.
 

Sincerely420

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I'm becoming more and more convinced that the plants respond adversely when removing leaves, depending on how and when you do it. :joint:
Basing that of experimenting and evidence...
I left one of my plants untouched and I just to see what might happen...And I'll be doing the same for a few grows!

This thread is a HELL OF A THREAD!

MAYBEEEE...JUST MAYBEEEEE......One of us can get a plant to do something none of us knew about by removing leaves in a specific manner.
It's just up to us to experiment :joint:
 

PJ Diaz

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I'm becoming more and more convinced that the plants respond adversely when removing leaves, depending on how and when you do it. :joint:
Basing that of experimenting and evidence...
I left one of my plants untouched and I just to see what might happen...And I'll be doing the same for a few grows!

This thread is a HELL OF A THREAD!

MAYBEEEE...JUST MAYBEEEEE......One of us can get a plant to do something none of us knew about by removing leaves in a specific manner.
It's just up to us to experiment :joint:
I definitely agree that done inappropriately it can set you back. IMO, done just after the initial flowering stretch and then again two weeks before harvest gives positive results. It's not gonna double your yield or anything, but it's not gonna hurt anything either.
 

Uncle Ben

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http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/53/366/27.full
here this is what i was just reading... which i hate to say but (cuz is funny).. UB point of view regarding not letting your soil dry... ever...
You are well on your way to becoming a Master Gardener. Good on ya for the research from credible sources!

BTW, another way to look at production potential and plant health as it relates to any kind of plant tissue is by measuring the amount of chlorophyll, and of course when you cut off a healthy very green leaf, you're removed valuable chlorophyll. If it's replaced 100% of leaves or more, you're fine other than stunting the plant or stressing it bit.

Now.....check this out, a frickin' chlorophyll meter which measures the health of your plants! Greener=more chlorophyll=healthier plant. This is what you call a real Bendejo tweek, hah!
http://www.agriculturesolutions.com/Chlorophyll-Meters/View-all-products.html?gclid=CIO_0aaHibUCFSmCQgodizsAEg

I bet I could send the needle right through the lens on that Trainwreck cross. :)
 

Slab

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Not to anyone that didn't come half stepping.

he did call me delusional, I got heated. oversensitive .You guys need to stop embracing the inner bitch in you.
 

PJ Diaz

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Not to anyone that didn't come half stepping.

he did call me delusional, I got heated. oversensitive .You guys need to stop embracing the inner bitch in you.
There's a difference between calling someone delusional and a mother fucker. Does half-stepping make profane insults ok? I thought this guy was trying to get his phd. Surely he knows some more creative and less derogatory words to choose from.
 

Uncle Ben

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Not to anyone that didn't come half stepping.

he did call me delusional, I got heated. oversensitive .You guys need to stop embracing the inner bitch in you.
Didn't know you were a mod. I wasn't being fascecious when I recommended pinning this thread. There are too damn many threads regarding defoliation practices IMO.

UB
 
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